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When that happens???Says the person supporting a cricketer who was on his knees at shrines to become PM.
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When that happens???Says the person supporting a cricketer who was on his knees at shrines to become PM.
It's people who claim to follow Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani who are doing this. They are associating fairy tales with him (there may have been some real instances ) but most of this stuff originates in the fertile minds of molvis.There is a difference between Umar RA and shirk peddling charlatans like this Ghaus character...
And no I don't hate shias,..
Yeah, those saints are probably turning in their graves (or the arsh, if we were to believe some people ) at what's being associated with themNope you are wrong on this one mate. People associate or fabricate a lot of weird stuff to these individuals during their lifetime and after their demise. We can't blame those individuals for that. Shias do the same with Ahlebayt (RZ). Going by your logic can we hate them too? Not any muslim can do that
So hate shirk and oppose it but without insulting any wali Allah
Not a supporter of Immi, only thing I support politically in Pakistan is the break up of 250 year old Sepoy hegemony. And if it makes you happy, forget Khan...Says the person supporting a cricketer who was on his knees at shrines to become PM.
What do you think this peerni stuff is all about?When that happens???
Not a supporter of Immi, only thing I support political in Pakistan is the break up of 250 year old Sepoy hegemony. And if it makes you happy, forget Khan...
This is not a political thread why you obsessed to IK???What do you think this peerni stuff is all about?
This is not a political thread why you obsessed to IK???
Sure. Few people deny that. But the contentious thing is how to determine if a certain story was an actual karamat of the Wali or just something the molvi pulled out of his arse.Auliya performing Karaamat / miracles is something no one had ever denied, not even Ibn Taymiyyah (founding father of the Wahhabi/Najdi school of thought in Islam). His greatest student Ibn al-Qayyam has attributed some Karaamat even to Ibn Taymiyyah himself.
It's unfortunate to see clueless keyboard warriors ridiculing things/concepts that are beyond their intellectual capacity
I agree. thats why I am of the opinion that one should never get involved in religious discussions that can lead to passions running high.Think of it this way, if both parties were armed, we would be having an entirely different conversation.
Hollywood glorified gun culture which was a fringe subset till then to an entire industry.
Yeah, I doubt any sane person, esp minorities would knowingly commit blasphemy in Pakistan of all places.All these Blasphemy issues are based on Ghalatfehmi...
There shouldn't be any law like this that can be used and abused for the personal agenda, badla and creating more divide.
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Sure. Few people deny that. But the contentious thing is how to determine if a certain story was an actual karamat of the Wali or just something the molvi pulled out of his arse.
Such as the one a molvi told where Hazrat Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jeelani R.A. teleported a devotee from a mehfil into a forest because he had to take a dump, pronto.
Why stir the pot? How about letting ppl be? Why get into ppl faces and argue with them about their belief? The golden rule of liberalism is laissez-faire.
Let ppl do what they want.