Regional peace: Pakistan pressed US to tame India!

[anilindia]

Resumption of dialoge is possible only after Pakistan handover lakhvi,Hafiz,dawood to India so that they can be hanged here.

 

[Screambowl]

Its reimbursements for Pakistan war efforts in WOT. And it does not cover the overall expense of this debacle by NATO.

Having India been fighting a war for a decade? Pakistan has been a major front lucky for you Indians sitting on the other side of the country. If India had been on the front line then they would have caved in already with their inept soldiers who can't even tackle a handful of Maoists and Naxilities.

What did Pakistan get after defeating Soviet Union? Germany delivered a brick of the Berlin wall to Hamid Gul with an inscription saying "to he who struck the first blow".

And US sanctions Pakistan for conducting nuclear tests. No after war support to clean up the mess.

Firstly India does not use terrorism/proxy for achieving their goals in foreign policy, unlike Pakistan

Secondly, LTTE was more trained and sophisticated militant group than Taliban, where is it now?

We know very well how to play safe.

 

[Shot-Caller]

mafi miya Gullu Butt ji... in 'regional security' you are discussing about RSS, when brutal Taliban and IS is on killing spree. Hats off, janab!

It was your post I responded to. You seem intoxicated. Better go rest.

 

[Screambowl]

TTP won't be around for much longer i suspect. Not in Pakistan anyway. After that Pakistan should seal the border with Afghanistan, create a fence along the entire-stretch. With a sufficient amount of personnel and guard towers. Then tighten the security around the Iranian border, as the Iranians have requested. Deal with BLA. once terrorism is ousted, focus on economic- growth, which is synonymous to the defence budget.

ISI has already managed to convince some TTP to fight for them , till this attitude is there, TTP and such groups going to remain.

TTP South Waziristan has declared themselves good terrorists(Pro Pakistani)

It is only Lashkar e Jhung , Khousrani,, IMU and Fazlulla group which Pak army is fighting against.

Ps. RSS are terrorists. One should not deny that.

For a Pakistani every Indian is a terrorist and vice versa, that is a more logical, argument.

 

[Menace2Society]

Firstly India does not use terrorism/proxy for achieving their goals in foreign policy, unlike Pakistan

Secondly, LTTE was more trained and sophisticated militant group than Taliban, where is it now?

We know very well how to play safe.

Firstly mukhti bani and TTP funding indicates India do use proxy terrorism and still are with TTP which is even more scandalous.

Secondly TTP have american military gear by intercepting NATO containers. In the KPK jail break out TTP had night vision goggles which even the police didn't have, I found that quite amusing. You are comparing a bunch of farmers to Taliban who have managed to fend off superpower NATO.

Pakistan has done very well to maintain its territory, in history nations have vanished under such duress. India will never let Pakistan have peace time to focus on growth and civics, for this to change Indian people have to change and I don't see that happening anytime soon because they are all as deluded as each other. This is why it is imperative Pakistan pushes for China/Afghanistan/Pakistan alliance. If it means Afghanistan can hunt terrorists which are wanted within Pak borders and Pakistan can do the same in Afghanistan then so be it, as long it is done with sincerity.

 

[Screambowl]

Firstly mukhti bani and TTP funding indicates India do use proxy terrorism and still are with TTP which is even more scandalous.

Secondly TTP have american military gear by intercepting NATO containers. In the KPK jail break out TTP had night vision goggles which even the police didn't have, I found that quite amusing.

Pakistan has done very well to maintain its territory, in history nations have vanished under such duress. India will never let Pakistan have peace time to focus on growth and civics, for this to change Indian people have to change and I don't see that happening anytime soon because they are all as deluded as each other. This is why it is imperative Pakistan pushes for China/Afghanistan/Pakistan alliance. If it means Afghanistan can hunt terrorists which are wanted within Pak borders and Pakistan can do the same in Afghanistan then so be it, as long it is done with sincerity.

The argument of Mukti Bahni would have been then relevant when Pakistan had managed to use complete Taliban against India and also dissolved it after the work was complete.

They might have stolen gears from somewhere. But India has not been funding any Taliban or TTP. Not in India's interest. Because we have Indian ocean, better economic zone than Afghanistan.

India has learnt its lessons from past, and for this I would blame forefathers of Pakistan only for creating such environment. Because, it was not India which initiated any religious movement or asked for a separate land and then tried to snatch land with a philosophy that Hindus are vegetarians and cannot counter the Mujahid Quam. (It sounds terrible but this was indeed the philosophy of your gernails). After 65 , India learnt that Pakistan is not trust worthy.

 

[OrionHunter]

Twitter Backer of ISIS Is a Clean-Cut Executive in India, British Channel Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/13/w...identified-as-clean-cut-indian-executive.html

British and US must be thinking same on India terorrisms and homegrown terrorists AND Pakistan has enough evidences.

So you compare one misguided Twitter sod from Bangalore, who wants to join the ISIS, to three decades of terrorism that Pakistan has been exporting to India with the help of its 'strategic assets' numbering in the thousands?

You've gotta be trolling me! Jeeez!

 

[Menace2Society]

They might have stolen it from somewhere. But India has not been funding any Taliban or TTP. Not in India's interest. Because we have Indian ocean, better economic zone than Afghanistan. But India may take steps to beef up security of Indians in Afg.

India has learnt its lessons from past, and for this I would blame forefathers of Pakistan only for creating such environment. Because, it was not India which initiated any religious movement or asked for a separate land and then tried to snatch land with a philosophy that Hindus are vegetarians and cannot counter the Mujahid Quam. (It sounds terrible but this was indeed the philosophy of your gernails). After 65 , India learnt that Pakistan is not trust worthy.

British India was not your land to own in its entirety and never was. A collection of kingdoms it was never one entity till the British came. And how long did their reign last, it ended for good reason.

India is like a possessive boyfriend, psycho behavior and takes break ups badly.

You guys have been playing with proxies since Northern Alliance. Pakistan had to work with Taliban, how else would Afghanistan have defeated the Soviets, their army was conquered. It was out of necessity. US agreed and provided arms and funding.

Yet your and Iranians Northern Alliance movement was born out of frustration of losing influence over Afghanistan. Both could have helped Pakistan in bring law and order to Afghanistan with a functioning govt rather than plot against and create more proxies.

China is well aware of all of this and will woo Afghanistan and there will finally be equilibrium.

 

[Screambowl]

India was not your land to own in its entirety and never was. A collection of kingdoms it was never one entity till the British came. And how long did their reign last, it ended for good reason.

Now you are moving from regional security to some boring topics of history. Whole world was then divided in Kingdoms only till 1800. The world has changed itself to the ideology of nations and countries, similar to an elected kingdom only.

India is like a possessive boyfriend, psycho behavior and takes break ups badly.

You guys have been playing with proxies since Northern Alliance. Pakistan had to work with Taliban, how else would Afghanistan have defeated the Soviets, their army was conquered. It was out of necessity. US agreed and provided arms and funding.

Yet your and Iranians Northern Alliance movement was born out of frustration of losing influence over Afghanistan. Both could have helped Pakistan in bring law and order to Afghanistan with a functioning govt rather than plot against and create more proxies.

China is well aware of all of this and will woo Afghanistan and there will finally be equilibrium.

China is not willing to waste money in Afghanistan. Neither they will send any military. US wants China to indulge itself in Afghanistan but that will not happen, just like India never sent any force to Afghanistan. As I have said, we have bigger economic zone in India ocean and China sea, respectively.

Proxy war via capital support and infrastructure is different than covert ops.

TTP is Pakistan's headache created by themselves only. India has no role in this, as it is waste of funds only.

 

[OrionHunter]

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[13 komaun]

Now Pakistan wants U.S to 'tame' India while unable to convince even Afghanistan!! This is a new low i hope the reporter is not a wannabe Christina palmer.

Its better to substitute the word tame with please

 

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In this file photo, US Secretary of State John Kerry is greeted by National Security Advisor Sartaj Aziz (L) shortly after arriving in Islamabad on January 12, 2015. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan has urged the United States to use its influence for making India behave as a responsible state in order to bring stability and peace in the region.

This issue was raised during the recent visit of US Secretary of State John Kerry, where he held in-depth discussions with Pakistani political and military leadership.

“Latest developments in the region particularly the ongoing operation against terrorism and the rising tension with India came under discussion,” sources privy to the meetings held with Kerry told this correspondent on the condition of anonymity.

“Kerry was asked that President Obama should take up Pakistan’s concerns related to India during his forthcoming visit to India,” sources said, adding that “Kerry was urged that President Obama should put pressure on Indian leadership for resumption of dialogue process with Pakistan in order to resolve all outstanding issues, including Kashmir”.

The US secretary of state was apprised that Pakistan is deeply engaged in curbing the menace of terrorism and its forces are busy on the Western border, in such crucial times any disturbance on the Eastern border is disturbing this war against terrorism — which as of now remains the global concern. “India must be told to remain in its limits.”

The sources maintained that Kerry was communicated that “India is pursuing policy of aggression against Pakistan without any reason and intends to divert attention of Pakistani forces from the ongoing war against terrorism.”

Kerry was also asked that President Obama should convince the Indian leadership to talk on Kashmir issue as well, since lasting peace in the region can only be guaranteed with the resolution of the core issue of Kashmir, which has been lingering on due to cold Indian response.

Pakistan urged John Kerry to persuade India to take initiative for resuming dialogue process for resolution of all outstanding issues with Pakistan. He was informed that it was always Pakistan which took the initiative to resume the dialogue process but India adopted a cold attitude. “The last effort for resumption of the dialogue process was also initiated by Pakistan, but India disrupted it without any reason,” the sources concluded.

Published in The Express Tribune, January 23rd, 2015.
Regional peace: Pakistan pressed US to tame India – The Express Tribune

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[karan.1970]

Quite ironical that after all the pressing Pakistan did (may be it was leg pressing ), with Kerry, Obaa came out and called Pakistan, a safe haven for terrorists