Rapprochement with Pakistan not on cards: Israel

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why rush to recognise a fascist state?

There is no rush from Pakistan as we gain NOTHING from the Jews/Israelis or Arabs. But there is a huge rush by the Arabs and eventually the Palestinians to recognize Israel.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Why rush to recognise a fascist state?

This fascist state had been predicted by our prophet one of Hadith, that it will form near the end of times, would you deny this hadith, would ya???, Gulf states recognizing Israel (they are real enemies of Israel0 so what is the problem of Pakistan to recognize Israel????

 

[Trango Towers]

There is no rush from Pakistan as we gain NOTHING from the Jews/Israelis or Arabs. But there is a huge rush by the Arabs and eventually the Palestinians to recognize Israel.

Let them rush. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. We have time. Arabs are no match or threat to Israel. Pakistan is very different and they know it. So relax and enjoy doodh patti

This fascist state had been predicted by our prophet one of Hadith, that it will form near the end of times, would you deny this hadith, would ya???, Gulf states recognizing Israel (they are real enemies of Israel0 so what is the problem of Pakistan to recognize Israel????

Looool so now tell me what the prophet pbuh said about the Jews.
You should become an Arab sheikh. Brilliant twist. Looool. Arabs are not the real enemies of Israel.

And there is a hadith of our prophet that predicted Jews will return on their country ISRAEL, HENCE THIS HADITH prediction that JEW will return on their country ISRAEL ALREADY HAD BEEN COMPLETED, WILL YOU DENY THIS HADITH, WILL YA???

Orthodox Jews also cried at the creation of Israel. As from their text they know the 2nd Israel will mean the beginning of the end of the Jews. Will you deny that? Plus what did prophet pbuh say about living with these people after expelling them. Dont be selective with your hadith to win an argument. Very dangerous ground

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Looool so now tell me what the prophet pbuh said about the Jews.
You should become an Arab sheikh. Brilliant twist. Looool. Arabs are not the real enemies of Israel.

Yeah but recognizing doesn't mean that we will have good relation with Israel, we recognized lots of countries but have minimal to no relations with them, similarly we will have case of Israel, we will recognize them but will not have any relation with them,

And if Arab is not are the enemies of Israel than who are??? they had have 4-5 wars with Israel???

 

[Trango Towers]

Yeah but recognizing doesn't mean that we will have good relation with Israel, we recognized lots of countries but have minimal to no relations with them, similarly we will have case of Israel, we will recognize them but will not have any relation with them,

And if Arab is not are the enemies of Israel than who are??? they had have 4-5 wars with Israel???

So what isbthe rush to recognise? Why are you so keen to rush before even the Arabs? What will you get?

This fascist state had been predicted by our prophet one of Hadith, that it will form near the end of times, would you deny this hadith, would ya???, Gulf states recognizing Israel (they are real enemies of Israel0 so what is the problem of Pakistan to recognize Israel????

Can you show me this hadith please ? I would like to read it.

 

[BATMAN]

Looool so now tell me what the prophet pbuh said about the Jews.

@was can we resume religious discussions here or else where?

there is a huge rush by the Arabs

please elaborate... what you consider as rush? Is it your personal opinion or more?

Arabs are not the real enemies of Israel.

Who's real enemy of Israel?

 

[Trango Towers]

@was can we resume religious discussions here or else where?

Oh you will do anything . How desperate the nawaz sharif supporter is. Looool now I know you area weak person. Cant call you a man
@waz isn't everyone talking about this...???PAKISTANFOREVER and WHITE AND GREEN WITH MS are 2 examples.
@WebMaster do you see an agenda?

Why has @BATMAN singled me out.

Shame of you batman. Again run to the mods.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yeah but recognizing doesn't mean that we will have good relation with Israel, we recognized lots of countries but have minimal to no relations with them, similarly we will have case of Israel, we will recognize them but will not have any relation with them,

And if Arab is not are the enemies of Israel than who are??? they had have 4-5 wars with Israel???

According to Israeli nationalists, the biggest threat to the Jews are the Right-Wing White nationalists who want the West to be free of Zinonist control. That is why Israel has the Samson option of wiping out Germay if the existence of Israel is threated:

Op-ed calls on Israel to nuke Germany, Iran

'20-30 nuclear bombs will assure the job gets done,' opinion piece on right-wing Israel National News site says

www.google.co.uk

 

[Trango Towers]

@was can we resume religious discussions here or else where?

please elaborate... what you consider as rush? Is it your personal opinion or more?

Who's real enemy of Israel?

Don't talk to me....I talk to men who don't snitch...you are just pathetic. Jog on ...ps report this too

According to Israeli nationalists, the biggest threat to the Jews are the Right-Wing White nationalists who want the West to be free of Zinonist control. That is why Israel has the Samson option of wiping out Germay if the existence of Israel is threated:

Op-ed calls on Israel to nuke Germany, Iran

'20-30 nuclear bombs will assure the job gets done,' opinion piece on right-wing Israel National News site says

www.google.co.uk

I read the Samson Option. Couldn't put it down. Amazing book and just shows how nations that want to achieve will go to any length for their survival. You can learn a lot from this book.

Have you read it?

 

[BATMAN]

Oh you will do anything . How desperate the nawaz sharif supporter is. Looool now I know you area weak person. Cant call you a man
@waz isn't everyone talking about this...???PAKISTANFOREVER and WHITE AND GREEN WITH MS are 2 examples.

Why has @BATMAN singled me out.

Shame of you batman. Again run to the mods.

You think you can quote messenger of Allah in reference to geo-political situation, and get away with it?
Now share proof of what you associate with messenger of Allah.
I will most certainly be keeping an eye on your lies.

 

[xyx007]

It is not easy for Saudi to automatically give up OIC's lead after recognizing Israel and Pakistan become the Muslim Ummah leader.
Oman Minister Yusuf bin Alawi bin Abdullah kicks out from his office, who served in the role for 23 years. Day after, his de facto predecessor spoke to his Israeli counterpart Gabi Ashkenazi against the peace deal's backdrop between Israel and the UAE. Islamic scholar viewpoint is powerful in Oman internal policymaking.

I think they are working on Indonesia

Indonesia Could Get Billions in U.S. Funding to Join Israel Push

Indonesia could unlock billions of dollars in additional U.S. financing if it joins President Donald Trump’s push for Muslim countries to establish relations with Israel, according to a U.S. official.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[BATMAN]

Shame of you batman. Again run to the mods.

you are just pathetic

@WebMaster his personal remarks are never ending... 3 chance are perhaps not applicable to some.

 

[Trango Towers]

You think you can quote messenger of Allah in reference to geo-political situation, and get away with it?
Now share proof of what you associate with messenger of Allah.
I will most certainly be keeping an eye on your lies.

Snitch go away...

You can do what you like...abuse me or Pakistan I will take your pants down. I have been reading all your anti Pakistan rants. Enemies like you are worst than India or Israel.
Report that too and edit it.

@WebMaster his personal remarks are never ending... 3 chance are perhaps not applicable to some.

SMQ has already declared that he'll build an OIC in opposition to OIC, so once Iran is done leading new OIC SMQ can take charge.

Shame on you another roprt to the @WebMaster. I have told you don't talk to me...but you are addicted. Looool. Gald I am getting to you

 

[PakPrinciples]

I don't see Erdogan unrecognizing Israel.

It does not matter they accepted Israel in military rule or in democracy rule,
They can Revoke Israeli Recognization like Irani Mullah did, But they did not choose to Revoke..

An unfortunate fact but one that needs to be highlighted that despite larger Muslim opinion on this confirmed by NGO's and even relevant Israeli ministries that the vast majority of those nations citizens do not support normalization with Israel the tyrannical regimes they've been forced to live under continue ahead with it.
Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs | 90% of the discourse on social media in Arabic about normalization with Israel - negative
DOHA Institute | 88% of Arabs oppose normalization with Israel

So Israel makes friends with nations that are not free and under authoritarian rule.

The question isn't whether this has happened or whether we'll see more of it but rather is this sustainable?

Turkey is in a unique situation in that it is a member of NATO and is seeking to enter the EU which Erdogan knows will use the Israeli issue to try and keep them out. However, Israel's own intelligence assessments paint Turkey as a growing threat even worse than Iran:
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/i...sessments-see-turkey-as-growing-threat-639629

Despite the normalization only 10% of Turks see Israel as having a positive influence (so this is across ideological boundaries):
https://globescan.com/images/images...ntry_ratings/BBC2017_Country_Ratings_Poll.pdf

Turkey didn't even post an ambassador to Israel for the last 2 years until just a few days ago and that only to ease tensions with the incoming Biden administration in the US over the S-400 purchases.

I'm sorry but the moment these dictatorships fall and representative governments take their place like we witnessed in Turkey, Tunisia, Libya, etc... they don't want anything to do with Israel.

@BlueWhales referenced a great point regarding Iran a nation that was not a member of NATO, not seeking entry into the EU and even though it was a part of CENTO it didn't actually benefit from it.

You can't "buy" friends, recognition, support and peace at least not for very long.

The problem with you guys is that you only see the present, you can't see it in the context of the past so you don't understand the future.

 

[BlueWhales]

And there is a hadith of our prophet that predicted Jews will return on their country ISRAEL, HENCE THIS HADITH prediction that JEW will return on their country ISRAEL ALREADY HAD BEEN COMPLETED, WILL YOU DENY THIS HADITH, WILL YA???

I do not want to talk on hadith books,
I had talked technically on Palestine issue based on some historical points... like Jews living in Palestine, Balfour Declaration ...

It depends on you take it as Right or Wrong..