Rajputs, Jats and Gujjars

[Great Janjua]

Jats are the closest people left on the subcontinent as our ancestral distant cousins. Blood and faith-wise.

Cheers, Doc

Am a jatt please enlighten me on your blood type and faith please thanks in advance [emoji11] [emoji11] [emoji11]

 

[padamchen]

Am a jatt please enlighten me on your blood type and faith please thanks in advance [emoji11] [emoji11] [emoji11]

You are a Pakistani. So you must be a Muslim?

Converts are not who I was referring to.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Great Janjua]

You are a Pakistani. So you must be a Muslim?

Converts are not who I was referring to.

Cheers, Doc

Ouch.i would personally reward you.if you find me a jatt the same religion as yours cheers cock I mean doc.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Ouch.i would personally reward you.if you find me a jatt the same religion as yours cheers cock I mean doc.

LOL.

 

[cringe master]

You are a Pakistani. So you must be a Muslim?

Converts are not who I was referring to.

Cheers, Doc

hindu jaats and punjabi muslim jatts are lot different and have different gotra
hindu jaats are jatav jat mixed with yadavs or in other words punjabi mixed with bhayas

LOL.

jaat and jatt are different a lot different
there are 3 or 4 jaat gotra which are found in punjabi muslim jatts rest all jaat gotra are not found in muslim jatts and even sikh jatts

 

[padamchen]

hindu jaats and punjabi muslim jatts are lot different and have different gotra
hindu jaats are jatav jat mixed with yadavs or in other words punjabi mixed with bhayas

I'm going on three things. Maybe not very scientific. I don't pretend to have the intellect for exalted threads like these.

They are fair and big like us.

They still venerate fire and elements like us.

They came last, just before us.

From the same direction.

Cheers, Doc

 

[VCheng]

Your opinion doesn’t have weight. It is the common people of Pakistan which will decide their destiny, and they are very religious.

Well, I do support the people's right to get the system that they want, no matter if I agree with the system itself or not. If the people of Pakistan want sharia, they should definitely have it.

 

[cringe master]

I'm going on three things. Maybe not very scientific. I don't pretend to have the intellect for exalted threads like these.

They are fair and big like us.

They still venerate fire and elements like us.

They came last, just before us.

From the same direction.

Cheers, Doc

what r u?

 

[Joe Shearer]

hindu jaats and punjabi muslim jatts are lot different and have different gotra
hindu jaats are jatav jat mixed with yadavs or in other words punjabi mixed with bhayas


jaat and jatt are different a lot different
there are 3 or 4 jaat gotra which are found in punjabi muslim jatts rest all jaat gotra are not found in muslim jatts and even sikh jatts

Pronunciation, not ethnic. Please don't do the Khushwant Singh bit. Gotras are different in different regions, that does not in any way signify a difference in essential character.

 

[cringe master]

Pronunciation, not ethnic. Please don't do the Khushwant Singh bit. Gotras are different in different regions, that does not in any way signify a difference in essential character.

jatt is not a race but profession , genetically jatt and jaat are different and every gotra have different origin same wy you can say bihari rajput , bengali rajput or any other indian rajput are different then pakistani rajputs

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

what r u?

Gujarati Parsi with Hindutva thrown in.

Basically he is a fossil.

jatt is not a race but profession , genetically jatt and jaat are different and every gotra have different origin same wy you can say bihari rajput , bengali rajput or any other indian rajput are different then pakistani rajputs

Gen Raheem Sharif and Iftikhar Choudary are both Rajputs.

They could never pass for an Indian even if they tried.

Pakistani Rajputs of Punjab are the most noble and martial of all Rajput lineages. We were heavily recruited by both Mughals and the British for this very reason.

Punjab was the proving ground and the pearl of the eye of this regions. Different Rajput clans fought for dominance, leading only the strongest to survive.

Raja Porus (who resisted and was acknowledged by Alexander/Skander E Azam) was from this region.

jatt is not a race but profession , genetically jatt and jaat are different and every gotra have different origin same wy you can say bihari rajput , bengali rajput or any other indian rajput are different then pakistani rajputs

Jatts are a noble lineage, much respect brother.

I know many Sikh Jatts who always refer to themselves as Sikh Jatt and never just jatt, conscious of the fact that Jatts are mostly Muslims and Pakistanis now.

 

[cringe master]

Gujarati Parsi with Hindutva thrown in.

Basically he is a fossil.

i don't beleive him , i think he is jst another pajeet pretending to be he wants so badly and trying to talk with logic so he can matter

Gujarati Parsi with Hindutva thrown in.

Basically he is a fossil.



Gen Raheem Sharif and Iftikhar Choudary are both Rajputs.

They could never pass for an Indian even if they tried.

Pakistani Rajputs of Punjab are the most noble and martial of all Rajput lineages. We were heavily recruited by both Mughals and the British for this very reason.

Punjab was the proving ground and the pearl of the eye of this regions. Different Rajput clans fought for dominance, leading only the strongest to survive.

Raja Porus (who resisted and was acknowledged by Alexander/Skander E Azam) was from this region.



Jatts are a noble lineage, much respect brother.

I know many Sikh Jatts who always refer to themselves as Sikh Jatt and never just jatt, conscious of the fact that Jatts are mostly Muslims and Pakistanis now.

raheel sharif ancestors migrated from india bro but overall i agree there is huge difference between Pakistani jat,rajputs and gujjars and india jats,rajput and gujjar now

raja porus was either jatt or khatri (most pakistani rajputs migrated from india recently)

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Your opinion doesn’t have weight. It is the common people of Pakistan which will decide their destiny, and they are very religious.



And Saudi/Yemeni Arabic is the closest to fus’ha. Beautiful language.

I found the Egyptians most diverse in looks, reflecting their cosmopolitan history.

Pretty much on the ball as far a looks.

Iraqis, KSA, and rest of Gulf look a lot like us.

The interpretation that is given authority is that of the Salaf as Salih.



Yes there is. Rasulullah (peace be upon him) recognised tribes/clans that genuinely denoted people's lineages, but anything from the time of jahiliya was rejected (e.g racism or pride based on one's ancestors)



You clearly haven't met many Arabs.

Egyptians, Yemenis, Omanis (and obviously the Sudanese) tend to be much darker than the rest, Saudis, Qataris, and Emiratis are mixed, Iraqis are usually white or light brown, and the rest are typically white.

The closest arabs to us in complexion are the Iraqis.

Saudis,gulf arabs in general are darker.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Spin it as you might Sir, there is no denying what the Objectives Resolution intends for Pakistan to be is as clear as day. The grey areas you wish to claim are only national confusion about how to achieve those ideals of Islam, not about the intended ideal outcomes at all, as I have mentioned before. Again, those principles are to be enunciated only according to Islam, without a doubt (the part that you left out this time ).

"National confusion' - exactly, because there is no consensus on how Islam defines those principles of freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice - hence the 'grey' areas.

 

[VCheng]

"National confusion' - exactly, because there is no consensus on how Islam defines those principles of freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice - hence the 'grey' areas.

Now that we can agree on that national confusion, let me reiterate that removing it would be possible only if the OR is repealed. The OR itself has no grey areas, but the people do in their will and ability to implement it as intended. Only then would Pakistan be able to develop a robust national narrative. It is of course up to the people what they would like Pakistan to be.