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We preferred the F-16 block 52.Seriously? You could have ordered the contender. EF Thunder. I think it was finances which stopped Pakistan.
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We preferred the F-16 block 52.Seriously? You could have ordered the contender. EF Thunder. I think it was finances which stopped Pakistan.
Then you can order more F-16s and be done with it. I heard F-16 Blk 60 or 70 is really good with SABR AESA radar.We preferred the F-16 block 52.
No stealth. Better to invest in AZM or buy J-31.Then you can order more F-16s and be done with it. I heard F-16 Blk 60 or 70 is really good with SaBR AESA radar.
From what I've seen, the fly away MKIs have do not have the same issues as those manufactured in Russia.
Why buy unproven Chinese platforms when you can get proven ones. Anyways your money.No stealth. Better to invest in AZM or buy J-31.
J-15 and J-16 were introduced after J-10. This means more Flanker versions showed up after J-10 so PLAAF and PLAN are inclined towards Flanker J-series. Political reasons concerning induction of SU30MKI doesn't make sense as induction should have stopped at 36 or 72 or maximum 100. From your posts it seems that IAF was not interested in SU30MKI, it was forcibly inducted, pilot training is a disaster on it, the ground crew don't know how to maintain it and overall the aircraft is a failure. This shows there no adaptability in IAF, they will only fly the aircrafts they can adapt to and even while MKI has been in service for decades, IAF has not understood this jet at any level.Chinese are moving away from Russian design into their own designs like j-10X. Engine is still a big issue for them though.
BTW, Chinese pilots average on about 120 hours of flight time a year. IAF is close to 200 or more. Clearly, someone is doing more intensive training than the other. Once Chinese sort out their engine issues and move to more reliable engines they will also up their training time.
Then why your hindutva regime is buying more of these units?Su-30MKI is a worthless platform inducted by India due to purely political reasons. Indian Airforce conducts its training for a high sortire rate, through out the year. Indian Gagan-Shakti exercise is an example. Low availability and low engine life of Su30MKI makes these planes a dead weight for India. Why do you think India has such a high rate of accidents? They are using planes never meant for the training and operation regime they apply to. Their training and operation regime is more like what NATO has but their platforms are Russian.
Had they selected western platforms from the beginning, they would be having much easier time.
Sorry I meant manufactured in India ... typo on my part.What is the difference between fly away and manufactured in Russia?
You are forgetting that the 1st Air Division comprises of three different type of aircraft : the Su-27, J-8, and J-7. The 120 hours was an average of all of these planes, not just for the Su-27. More than likely, the Su-27 pilots receive closer to 200 hours while the J-7 and J-8 pilots receive less due to their vintage airframes, which makes logical sense.No dear, you didn't.. You only provided training numbers on god knows what platform.
India in 2007 was having higher number of hours on Su30s ie 214 hours per year. China had 120 hours on su-27.
Please point out where the Chinese or the JF-17 does not have quality control? If anybody doesn't have quality control, its the Indians lmao. Please tell me how this is an example of good quality control.Unproven. All of Chinese missiles are unproven. Given that Chinese don't have any sense of quality, its export versions are even worse. There is a reason when it comes to air to air dominance, Pakistan still goes for F-16.
Courtesy of you guys, Pakistan unfortunately cannot buy Block 70s/72s ... especially after February 27.Then you can order more F-16s and be done with it. I heard F-16 Blk 60 or 70 is really good with SABR AESA radar.
Core takeaways should be:
- Rafale does add to IAF capability
- It is not being purchased in large enough quantities to make a difference in a 2 Front war
- JF17B3 will also be a big jump in PAF's capabilities
- No need to buy J-10 since better AC will soon be available (J31 or AZM)
Why buy unproven Chinese platforms when you can get proven ones. Anyways your money.
Su-30MKI is a worthless platform inducted by India due to purely political reasons. Indian Airforce conducts its training for a high sortire rate, through out the year. Indian Gagan-Shakti exercise is an example. Low availability and low engine life of Su30MKI makes these planes a dead weight for India. Why do you think India has such a high rate of accidents? They are using planes never meant for the training and operation regime they apply to. Their training and operation regime is more like what NATO has but their platforms are Russian.
Had they selected western platforms from the beginning, they would be having much easier time.
No. Because US is not a reliable partner. Ever heard about a certain Pressler Amendment? Pakistan was US "ally" back then.why buy raffle draw planes when you could have bought the much better latest F15k versions ....
Its more about platform reliability.SU30 is a very capable platform. The issue is IAF let its BVR advantage slip.
Unproven was the argument. Tell me, how many times Chinese made air to air (SD-10 etc) missiles have scored a kill? And then check how many times western made missiles have.Please point out where the Chinese or the JF-17 does not have quality control? If anybody doesn't have quality control, its the Indians lmao. Please tell me how this is an example of good quality control.
Irrelevant.Please point out where the Chinese or the JF-17 does not have quality control? If anybody doesn't have quality control, its the Indians lmao. Please tell me how this is an example of good quality control.
Thanks to HAL QC control, your domestically assembled Su-30MKIs are falling out of the skies at break neck pace