Quetta: LEJ bombs University bus & siege BMC.

[Secur]

There is Ticker on Geo new

"there were Two terrorists who attacked Bolan Medical Complex"


WOw ... things are changing so fast

So they haven't even determined with certainty yet how many attackers were involved ?

I refuse to believe that they were only 2 terrorists .

 

[American Pakistani]

 

[American Pakistani]

 

[HAIDER]

Whatever this patro dollar is doing in Pakistan,,,this same monster will hunt down these Salafist on their home ground. Khuda ko zulm pasand nahi....

 

[monitor12345]

Who are those terrorists and what's exactly do they want in Pakistan?

Wahabis / Salafis are doing this. Wahabis want to occupy & rule Pakistan. Save Pakistan from Wahabis.

 

[Fracker]

Don't understand when govt of Pakistan knows all string of these terrorist are pulling from three middle eastern countries, then why not control them. Non insurgency in the world can run on that broad scale without outside help. Through these wahabi salafi back to their middle eastern masters . Pakistan should ask Afghan to secure their border along Central asian republic or Pakistan should take over that patch . Its little patch and has big flow of terrorist in Pakistan and rest of world. But according to media reports , BLA has link with Lej. It seems Pakistan is satellite state for arab countries to provide trained men power to fight their proxy wars in different countries. Lots of dead Pakistani alkaida fighters found in Syria.

Problem is your country. Where ever they go terrorism start spreading around. killings starts, militancy, confusion, in the end disaster. Yet, USA is a bloody Peace Keeper country and OBAMA gets Peace Awards..

Wahabis / Salafis are doing this. Wahabis want to occupy & rule Pakistan. Save Pakistan from Wahabis.

Or someone wants to hide under the pents of Wahabism/Salafism and exploit Pakistani Peace.

 

[monitor12345]

@Fracker . By bombing holy shrines in Pakistan , and claiming the responsibility , they have shown that the Terrorists follows Wahabi Ideology. ( Of Abdul Wahab Najad of Saudi Arabia ).
Also, CIA is involved too.

 

[RazPaK]

I feel like pissing on zias grave.. Looks like humanity is lost..... and we are living in a fuked up society...

Don't say stupid ****.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

now Geo claims that it was only one terrorist who kept all the jobsworth busy for 4 hours while the other one had blown himself
had he not then the entire goof crowd that was around the hospital would have been facing them for 8 hours

just shows you how much they are ahead of us, they out-think the military, out flank it , out gun it, they have sympathizers in politicians, public, clergy, media and now they kill everyone indiscriminately regardless of religion, faith, sect, gender and age. and will continue to do so until the military stops acting like an apologetic force and act like Turkish or Saudi army.

 

[Armstrong]

will continue to do so until the military stops acting like an apologetic force and act like Turkish or Saudi army.

Do you think that would be all that possible; seeing that in Turkey - the Nation is United & was backing the Military & in Saudi Arabia - it doesn't really matter what the Nation thinks as long as the clerics & the royals are the ones calling the shots.

In Pakistan on the other hand even a bystander dying of hyperventilation somehow gets connected to the ISI & by extension the Army. The Army clamoring for support from the Civilian Executive on a plethora of issues, whether it be a new anti-terrorism bill that remained in suspended animation in the Parliament for the entire term of the last Government or the Army asking the Civilian Executive to come in & consolidate the areas its managed to secure. We've got a Civilian Executive that on one hand cries that the policies are made in Rawalpindi whilst on the other refuses to take responsibility numerous times when its been nudged in the right direction & ever so commendably by the same Rawalpindi.

We are, Irfan Bhai, a house deeply divided against itself & the Army cannot afford to make any move without deliberating the perception & reaction of every action that would be caused due to any action that the Army takes. A conundrum, Irfan Bhai....a deeply disturbing conundrum.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

we would have to take help off ulemas and ulema should form some united party this would isolate the most and also take help off mullah Omar this would give them final blow and only than we would be able to defeat them

brother I hear you but see we dont even have unity among Deobandi groups, e.g. we got one as JUI F (Fazl Rehman group) and JUI s (Sami Al Haq group) both have compelling power through Saudi funded madrassas and diehard followers but they cant unite and I dont see any of them joining Berlawi or any other moderate Sunni religious party

 

[TalibanSwatter]

All your "facts" came from you @ss I think. Yes, LeJ may be terrorist but Malik Ishaq had been in Jail for 15 years and just released. He doesn't go to Saudia.

Saudis are anti-shia like LeJ but huge difference in doctrine. LeJ is closer to Al-Qaeda (anti-saudiaThe wars are very complex. Iran funds shia extremists like SMP and TNFJ while yes Saudia does fund LeJ but not at state level. There is a huge support amongst the people for Al-Qaeda type fundos but not at state level.

Oh and if LeJ is punjabi TTP, why and how can it be so effective at apparent terror in Balochistan?? Balochistan right now is hell for Punjabis and they can't operate there... so LeJ is All Pakistan and different from TTP. They both have some common goals though.

Here are a few more facts for you.

Malik Ishaq?s bail plea rejected - DAWN.COM

DAWN
March 28, 2013
ISLAMABAD: A judge in the eastern city of Lahore on Saturday rejected a request for bail made by Malik Ishaq, the founder of the banned Laskhar-e-Jangvi group, a senior police official Ijaz Shafi said.

Ishaq has been accused of making speeches inciting sectarian hatred against Shias.

Earlier this week, police had detained Ishaq, also linked to the defunct Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan, at Lahore airport on his return from Saudi Arabia. He appeared in court on Friday in front of a judicial magistrate amid tight security and was sent to the city’s Kot Lakhpat jail for a 14-day-long judicial remand.

The groups, Laskhar-e-Jangvi and the Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan, have been blamed for scores of attacks on Shias in Balochistan and elsewhere in the country.


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So for starters, I guess you can stop propagating myths about Malik Ishaq not visiting Saudi anymore.

- Now, you have admitted that LeJ gets huge amount of funding from Saudi but just not at the state level. Obviously and logically, the Saudi salafi establishment wouldn't fund an organization if it did not further their agenda. So please, spare us the rubbish about there being any difference between LeJ and the salafi doctrine in terms of its violently anti-shia focus. Salafis are anti shia - period!

- Secondly, the fact of the matter is the Saudi government actively funded these sectarian killers in the 80 and 90s with the support of our establishment starting with Zia ul Haq(aka scumbag). Whether the government does so today does'nt matter, because there are powerful non state actors in Saudi funding these thugs - namely the salafi establishment, a junior partner in the ruling alliance with serious clout.

- Thirdly, did'nt quite follow your logic about LeJ/Punjabi militants. So the LeJ militants that are a big part of the Punjabi militant arm of TTP, and perhaps some of the best trained militants in the entire network, can't operate in balochistan because they're Punjabi.....seriously??? Not to mention the Punjabi LeJ militants operating in KP! - stop being so naïve.

 

[HAIDER]

This is the reality we facing in Muslim countries...watch it..

Tunisian Ex-Jihadist Tells Tunisian TV Why he Stopped Fighting Alongside the FSA in Syria - YouTube

 

[Irfan Baloch]

We are, Irfan Bhai, a house deeply divided against itself & the Army cannot afford to make any move without deliberating the perception & reaction of every action that would be caused due to any action that the Army takes. A conundrum, Irfan Bhai....a deeply disturbing conundrum.

right now, there are people among us who are hosting the terrorists who will kill more civilians attack another army installation and attack another mosque or hospital or school.

this is where true leadership shines and shows its metal. it will have to grab the public by the throat and jolt it enough to make it understand. yes army will have to stop trying to increase its approval rating because its not working anyway. it has to start killing, hell with rehabilitation, leave the civilian jobsworth to do that digging wells and making road and bridges.



army situation is like that of a village low life thief who couldnt decide his punishment, 100 onions to eat or take 100 lashes, I guess you know the story, in the end he had to eat 100 onions and was lashed 100 times because he couldnt make a decision.
look what has become of it.

as we write here, we got future terrorists enjoying the hospitality of people living around us. until and unless our security forces and intel agencies dont start smashing the doors of those suspect hosts in the middle of the night and drag the corpses out of both the would be terrorists and the handlers, these incidents will continue to happen.

the nation is like a flock of sheep, show it the stick and it will fall in.

tell me why its begging to "talk" with its killers, its like a looser who is made to take off his turban and put it in the feet of the victor and agree to the demands of the winner. the nation can see that all our military has achieved is making some pathetic videos of bombing and shooting in the wilderness whereas the videos of the LeJ and TTP leave no ambiguity in their impact of the content which is graphic and violent.

Indians and Israeli army demolish the homes of the hosts where they find the militants (before you say they are bad example and are occupiers) and so do the Turks and the Saudis (to their Kurds and shias) results are obvious for all to see, do they seem to care about what the world has to say? have they been isolated or embargoed?

I am sorry but if this nation still cant decide who is its enemy after loosing 50k of its people then it deserves the same kind of contempt that was shown by Sadam Hussain or Taimur Lung.

=== some other interesting links about the source

http://tribune.com.pk/story/173744/wikileaks-saudi-arabia-uae-funded-extremist-networks-in-pakistan/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/destro...d-terrorists-sowing-chaos-in-pakistan/5323295

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11923176

now check out this video

 

[Leader]

Meengla tells me that Sabaz Sherif turned Lej/ SSP into a plump back in the 90s whereas the reality is that just a single picture sent by the top terrorist murderer called Riaz Basra scared Shahbaz sherif enough to call off the pursuit

Shabaz had put money on Riaz Basra's head and Riaz Basra in response sent him a picture where he was few steps away from him in a public gathering. telling him that he has enough support to be that close to the throat of Shabaz sherif.
Sipah Sahabah or LeJ never suffered any blows, at most it went underground and suspended its operations after kill shias in very large quantity and waited till the shia protests died down.

its stature rose to new heights when it took over the role of sole representation of Al qaeda in Pakistan. the video of Colonel Imam showed that now even the devout Sunnis were on the menu no matter how influential. in almost all high profile attacks on Pakistani installations it has provided its highly trained men and other logistics that has given our "special forces" run for their money.

LeJ and SSP never ever died. to date not even a single LeJ/SSP murderer has been found guilty by our courts. Meengla tells me that PMLn destroyed SSP whereas the fact is that its leadership had all the witnesses and their relatives executed even while in police "custody". its top killer Malik Ishaq follows a cult following and is charged with personally killing over 100 shia members over the years he considers ASWJ (new name of Sipah Sahabah) partition in elections as a waste of time as it takes the "faithful" away from their "real mission", the culling of shias. but sadly since the recent past, all innocent Pakistanis are in their cross hair even if they are not shias.

ab tou suna hai Jhang mien yeh log asay phir rahe hain jese inkay baap ki hakumat ho. or hay bhi asa hi.