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UPGRADED INDIAN MIRAGE2000
IT LOOKS A BEAUTY
Looks like a Frenchie to me.
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UPGRADED INDIAN MIRAGE2000
IT LOOKS A BEAUTY
Sir, I wanted to quote a friend of mine who happens to be a squadron leader in PAF and an avionics engineer. He said some things which were new to me and they appear sorry to say ridiculous. But I hope , I am wrong or he may be hiding things. As followsSir,
It is public news---. I am not being rude---you need to use your brains when reading and replying---. I stated that the Paf donated those funds in earthquake relief---. The air marshall is on record to make these statements---.
I mean to say---there is a limit to the level of idiocy---you talk about professional discussions on a military related forum---but cannot grasp simple information.
Sir, I wanted to quote a friend of mine who happens to be a squadron leader in PAF and an avionics engineer. He said some things which were new to me and they appear sorry to say ridiculous. But I hope , I am wrong or he may be hiding things. As follows
1) he says PESA radar is useful and better an AESA as AESA produces some kind of extra or more electromagnetic environment and easy to track as compared to jet having PESA
2) BVR missiles are ineffective if fired from greater ranges and won't score hit. Jets have to come close to around 15 km to score a hit.
3) our block 52s are ok and we can counter kill switches.
4) Su 35s are maintenance nightmare
5) our F 16s which are old ones have been manipulated a lot and different technologies have been incorporated in them making them more effective. If true, great!
I disagree with first 2 points. Partially agree with 3rd and willing to agree on 4th and 5th
Your comments please.
See the Fin Flash ... of the IAF... French air force don't have themLooks like a Frenchie to me.
Haha I know that sir. Just stating the obvious that it is of French design.See the Fin Flash ... of the IAF... French air force don't have them
Hhehe... To be PC ... its French Designed and Built!Haha I know that sir. Just stating the obvious that it is of French design.
Perhaps what he meant was a BVR fired at the extreme limit of its range rather than in the kill zone which is shorter than the maximum range of a BVR missile.Hi,
He is wrong on BVR----. Does he think that the nations spending 500k 1mil 1.5 mil on a BVR missiles are stupid.
Does he think that the designers of F22---F35--J20--J31--Pakfa or other stealth aircraft are dumb for building these aircraft---.
These stealth aircraft are primarily dependant on their bvr capabilties---.
If pesa was better---then there would be no aesa.
Off course SU will be a maintenance nightmare
He is right about the F16's
At least he admitted that kill switches exist.
Perhaps what he meant was a BVR fired at the extreme limit of its range rather than in the kill zone which is shorter than the extreme range of a BVR missile.
As to kill switches----- No comment!!.
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1)he is right and wrong at the same time aesa is better then pesa but it do give more radiation then pesa as unlike pesa it every module is sending a wave thats why you don't keep your radar active 100% of the time it give away your position even stealth plane will give away their location if radar is turned on. only one aircraft is needed to use the radar and rest should relay on its data through data links any lay the traps if possible.Sir, I wanted to quote a friend of mine who happens to be a squadron leader in PAF and an avionics engineer. He said some things which were new to me and they appear sorry to say ridiculous. But I hope , I am wrong or he may be hiding things. As follows
1) he says PESA radar is useful and better an AESA as AESA produces some kind of extra or more electromagnetic environment and easy to track as compared to jet having PESA
2) BVR missiles are ineffective if fired from greater ranges and won't score hit. Jets have to come close to around 15 km to score a hit.
3) our block 52s are ok and we can counter kill switches.
4) Su 35s are maintenance nightmare
5) our F 16s which are old ones have been manipulated a lot and different technologies have been incorporated in them making them more effective. If true, great!
I disagree with first 2 points. Partially agree with 3rd and willing to agree on 4th and 5th
Your comments please.
he easily can if fired at him at max range all he has to do is turn around and get out of there with full thrust.Hi,
Well that comes down to kill ratio at max range to kill ratio at 80%---70%---60%---50% range.
Kill ratios of the worst BVR missiles is extremely high at 50%---60% of its total flight range---.
Supposedly a bvr missile with a max range of 100 km has a 80% kill ratio at 50% range when launched from that shorter distance---ie 50----31.5 miles---.
Now when a volley of 4 missiles is launched by an aircraft at one target---then what is the multiplier effect.
Can a target successfuly evade all these missiles within seconds of the other?
everything is possible sirI don't know why people are in a illusion that Russia is selling us SU-35. Buy 50, 30 40 of them who is selling us these.
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he easily can if fired at him at max range all he has to do is turn around and get out of there with full thrust.
then why are you quoting pk ratio close to 60% at the end range of missile.Hi,
There is nothing magical about that---post something that we don't know or understand---.
Perhaps what he meant was a BVR fired at the extreme limit of its range rather than in the kill zone which is shorter than the maximum range of a BVR missile.
As to kill switches----- No comment!!.
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