قہر برپا کیا تم نے نبیﷺکا نام لے کر

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Op is calling the people of Pakistan animals of worse kind for celebrating the murder of 23 year old in the name of holy prophet.
He is blaming their failures hopelessness and sins for all the frustration and suppressed hate that is within them and is calling it the reason for this mob justice not love for prophet. if saying Allahuakbar while slaughtering a pig doesn't make it halal than how a murder committed in the name of God is?when god explicitly said killing a human is like killing whole humanity.what is the difference between you and a suicide bomber.it's people like you who give bad name to Pakistan and just because of you we are being stereotyped into a nation of brainless zombie who can be influenced in whichever way extremists desires.
Prophet Muhammad is going to stay the king of this whole universe no matter what its a god given status mere human words or actions can't change it.for those who claims to be his lover tell me are you flowing his teachings or is only restricted to blasphemy

And I the last two paragraphs he is warning us that there is still time to mend our ways no extremist is either our friend nor a follower of God.And he observing how our judges and ullima are going to react after this incident

Thank you. I can only read Urdu at the 5th grade level. So in my 5th grade Americanized mentality, I didn't wanna read and wanted the easy way out because I am used to instant gratification.

 

[Hell hound]

Thank you. I can only read Urdu at the 5th grade level. So in my 5th grade Americanized mentality, I didn't wanna read and wanted the easy way out because I am used to instant gratification.

No worries mate.Was glad to be of some assistance

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Stop mocking Hadith idiot.This is true Hadith and I've already answered it was in disesed condition.You have taken your hate against Islam too far.

You are really dumb Mullah . Where I mocked hadith? I simply asked that would you drink urine of camel as medicine as mentioned in Bukhari and Muslim ? It was question you dumb and you are talking bull shit instead of giving answer and yes you are insulting verses of Quran and character of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) by saying that he did ordered to kill those people in personal revenge who insulted him so you are actually lowering the status of Prophet(PBUH) rehamt ul almeen and Sahaba as well as you are ignoring those verses and plenty of others Hadiths which are projecting his personality in positive way.

Secondly you are liar as well as you twisted Hadiths to make it fit with your extreme mindset. People have exposed your lies here where no punishment was for blasphemy as one unknown guy associated lie with Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and others committed murder as well and boht vague and unclear in their message. I have been explained my point in previous posts and now stop quoting me again idiot

 

[Fawadqasim1]

O then Ummah uses dozens of different ways to offer their prayer and the way of calling prayer of every sect is different.But Holy Prophet didnot do that.You've believe in Ummah or your forefathers,and didnot in Hadiths which were narrated by Sahabah.Actually here Ummah means your forefathers which you are following blindly.
Now tell me what method you are going to use cause in Islam there are not dozens of ways to offer prayer.


Stop mocking Hadith idiot.This is true Hadith and I've already answered it was in disesed condition.You have taken your hate against Islam too far.

there is difference of chalk and cheese between ittiba e aaba and tawatur show me a single muslim who omits qayam, qaida, sajda, sura e fatiha reading a part of quran after fatiha initial takbeer e tehreema salam etc which are faraiz you are talking about farrah and mustahibat which can vary.it is institutionalised and ritualized transfer of knowledge from millions of people to millions of people across the world question how did pre science societies transferred their knowledge and technology there was no degree celsius no meters or centimeters grams or kilograms no standardized scales no thermometers how? through institutionalised rituals. But these were few people transferring knowledge and technology to few in case of tawatur millions were involved all knowledgeable muslims of every day and age and place were involved you fool you are attacking the source of transfer of quran and sunnah and by implication its reliability.sorry for the clumsiness of my posts I am posting via mobile.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

But Holy Prophet didnot do that.

how so?
Two other fools liked your post oblivious of the fact that you are trying to cut the branch on which the primary sources of islam rests

 

[RangeMaster]

You are really dumb Mullah . Where I mocked hadith? I simply asked that would you drink urine of camel as medicine as mentioned in Bukhari and Muslim ? It was question you dumb and you are talking bull shit instead of giving answer and yes you are insulting verses of Quran and character of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) by saying that he did ordered to kill those people in personal revenge who insulted him so you are actually lowering the status of Prophet(PBUH) rehamt ul almeen and Sahaba as well as you are ignoring those verses and plenty of others Hadiths which are projecting his personality in positive way.

Secondly you are liar as well as you twisted Hadiths to make it fit with your extreme mindset. People have exposed your lies here where no punishment was for blasphemy as one unknown guy associated lie with Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) and others committed murder as well and boht vague and unclear in their message. I have been explained my point in previous posts and now stop quoting me again idiot

O please stop lies you liberal.I am twisting Hadiths?You've proved your mentality by saying that.We are not talking about Holy Prophet SAW politeness and kindness we are talking about Blasphemy.And these acts of you people encourage people to make pages nemed "Bhensa".
Do not talk illogical.Just give me answer to this Hadith.This is vague?Are you dumb?It is straight forward.And it is true Hadith.I am again posting it.

It is straight forward that Hazrat Muhammad SAW himself ordered to kill blasphemers.Stop blaming me of disrespecting verses.Give me proof in hadiths or Quran in which there should be straight forward written that Hazrat Muhammaed SAW ordered the Muslims to leave blasphemers and leave their matter to Allah.
Give me straightforward Hadith.Otherwise donot reply.

how so?
Two other fools liked your post oblivious of the fact that you are trying to cut the branch on which the primary sources of islam rests

Are you dumb?Have you got any senses?I meant Holy Prophet SAW way of offering prayer is only one not dozens.And he SAW said"Offer your Prayer as you've seen me offering".
And Answer one question and our debate will be over,
From your previous post I've found that you think as Hadith was written late so they've shady background.So Quran would be enough for Muslims to get knowledge about Islam?
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Please do not beat around the bushes and answer me and our debate will be over.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

O please stop lies you liberal.I am twisting Hadiths?You've proved your mentality by saying that.We are not talking about Holy Prophet SAW politeness and kindness we are talking about Blasphemy.And these acts of you people encourage people to make pages nemed "Bhensa".
Do not talk illogical.Just give me answer to this Hadith.This is vague?Are you dumb?It is straight forward.And it is true Hadith.I am again posting it.

It is straight forward that Hazrat Muhammad SAW himself ordered to kill blasphemers.Stop blaming me of disrespecting verses.Give me proof in hadiths or Quran in which there should be straight forward written that Hazrat Muhammaed SAW ordered the Muslims to leave blasphemers and leave their matter to Allah.
Give me straightforward Hadith.Otherwise donot reply.

Non of the above mentioned sources are sahih save one ie from bukhari

 

[RangeMaster]

Non of the above mentioned sources are sahih save one ie from bukhari

Answer my question please.

Non of the above mentioned sources are sahih

And your proof?

 

[Fawadqasim1]

O please stop lies you liberal.I am twisting Hadiths?You've proved your mentality by saying that.We are not talking about Holy Prophet SAW politeness and kindness we are talking about Blasphemy.And these acts of you people encourage people to make pages nemed "Bhensa".
Do not talk illogical.Just give me answer to this Hadith.This is vague?Are you dumb?It is straight forward.And it is true Hadith.I am again posting it.

It is straight forward that Hazrat Muhammad SAW himself ordered to kill blasphemers.Stop blaming me of disrespecting verses.Give me proof in hadiths or Quran in which there should be straight forward written that Hazrat Muhammaed SAW ordered the Muslims to leave blasphemers and leave their matter to Allah.
Give me straightforward Hadith.Otherwise donot reply.


Are you dumb?Have you got any senses?I meant Holy Prophet SAW way of offering prayer is only one not dozens.And he SAW said"Offer your Prayer as you've seen me offering".
And Answer one question and our debate will be over,
From your previous post I've found that you think as Hadith was written late so they've shady background.So Quran would be enough for Muslims to get knowledge about Islam?
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Please do not beat around the bushes and answer me and our debate will be over.

No its not my statement it is your allegation I was just stating historical facts.hadith has its place in islam its nature is such that it should be understood in the light quran and sunnah.

 

[RangeMaster]

No its not my statement it is your allegation I was just stating historical facts.hadith has its place in islam its nature is such that it should be understood in the light quran and sunnah.

What historical facts?

it should be understood in the light quran and sunnah.

Sunnah is also written in hadith.Cause there is no third thing in Islam if we exclude Quran and Hadith.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Answer my question please.

And your proof?

What historical facts?

go and learn something about islam and its history and the term history I will give some hints year of birth of imam bukhari because the exact date is unknown the year in which he died etc and so on.

What historical facts?


Sunnah is also written in hadith.Cause there is no third thing in Islam if we exclude Quran and Hadith.

Thats your statement which is wrong.go learn

 

[RangeMaster]

go and learn something about islam and its history and the term history I will give some hints year of birth of imam bukhari because the exact date is unknown the year in which he died etc and so on.

Give me proof of your statement above.
And what has the birth of Imam Bukhari to do with this topic?
By the way his birthday and the day he died is a well know fact
Born: 19 July 810 AD, Bukhara, Uzbekistan
Died: 1 September 870 AD, Khartank

 

[Fawadqasim1]

And your proof?

The the burden of proof is on your shoulders not Mine it's your statement not Mine I just asked a question how so?

Give me proof of your statement above.
And what has the birth of Imam Bukhari to do with this topic?
By the way his birthday and the day he died is a well know fact
Born: 19 July 810 AD, Bukhara, Uzbekistan
Died: 1 September 870 AD, Khartank

Its disputed

 

[RangeMaster]

Thats your statement which is wrong.go learn

So tell me where did you learn about sunnah if not from Hadith.Give me proof not again that word "Twatur".Cause people are untrustable according to you.And Twatur of sunnah is also done by people and then their generations and then it reached here.Now there are 72 sects of Muslims while in Holy Prophet SAW duration there was none.So tell me wherebto find the correct one without consulting from hadith.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Give me proof of your statement above.
And what has the birth of Imam Bukhari to do with this topic?
By the way his birthday and the day he died is a well know fact
Born: 19 July 810 AD, Bukhara, Uzbekistan
Died: 1 September 870 AD, Khartank

That he was born roughly about 200 years after our holy prophet saw

So tell me where did you learn about sunnah if not from Hadith.Give me proof not again that word "Twatur".Cause people are untrustable according to you.And Twatur of sunnah is also done by people and then their generations and then it reached here.Now there are 72 sects of Muslims while in Holy Prophet SAW duration there was none.So tell me wherebto find the correct one without consulting from hadith.

you haven't even perused this thread properly otherwise you won't be asking these foolish question not only foolish question but false allegations too

So tell me where did you learn about sunnah if not from Hadith.Give me proof not again that word "Twatur".Cause people are untrustable according to you.And Twatur of sunnah is also done by people and then their generations and then it reached here.Now there are 72 sects of Muslims while in Holy Prophet SAW duration there was none.So tell me wherebto find the correct one without consulting from hadith.

Not by some people but by the whole ummah and who is saying not to consult hadith but in the light of quran and sunnah

So tell me where did you learn about sunnah if not from Hadith.Give me proof not again that word "Twatur".Cause people are untrustable according to you.And Twatur of sunnah is also done by people and then their generations and then it reached here.Now there are 72 sects of Muslims while in Holy Prophet SAW duration there was none.So tell me wherebto find the correct one without consulting from hadith.

I learned salah not from hadith but from my father and mother and my imam musjid.imam abu hanifa did not learn his salah from sahih bukhari otherwise all of us would be doing rafayadan
go get educated I am not your teacher