Putin: Nazi-Soviet pact was legitimate; Britain to blame for Hitler's march into Europe

[Max Pain]

Who cares now,
World War 2 is over for a long freakin while.
hell Cold war is over.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

So the mass murderers and completely psychos that are Stalin and Hitler were not to blame for war, its well known that Russians and Germans alike like to bully their small neighbours and landgrab, no different today.

As for the Indians, yeah they had the rough end of the stick but with your gigantic population and history of famines and deaths going back a long time its not really a surprise that a time in the world where people all over were dying from starvation/bullets/bombs that a poor overpopulated country would lose alot of people, still tiny in comparison to what Stalin/Hitler achieved so im not sure how Churchill is worse, they were all pricks though and I doubt any of them would have given a second thought to an Indian dying or a local white man so if any of them were in the same position they would have done the same.

dying from starvation is something invading and occupying other countries is some thing else what did hitler and stalin did that the UK did not in europe you bombed cites reducing it to the ground not just military targets in amirca the blood of the natives are on your hands in africa and asia occupation and killing and stealing resources
so please dont act as if you were on the good side fighting evil you are the EVIL in the world you and the US

 

[Porus]

dying from starvation is something invading and occupying other countries is some thing else what did hitler and stalin did that the UK did not in europe you bombed cites reducing it to the ground not just military targets in amirca the blood of the natives are on your hands in africa and asia occupation and killing and stealing resources
so please dont act as if you were on the good side fighting evil you are the EVIL in the world you and the US

The people of Britain have convinced themselves that they were the most benign rulers (not colonialists or invaders, just rulers or better call them administrators) in the whole history of mankind. I have seen so many documentaries on BBC and other British TV channels, whereas they never let go any chance to remind the world how brutal were Belgians in Congo, Spanish and Portuguese in south America, French and European colonialists in their own colonies, they also never get tired of talking about the crimes done by Nazis and Stalin but you will hardly ever see them offering repentance for what they did in their own colonies. Forget the guilt feelings they even never talk about it and pretend as if had never happened. Even their newspapers will not publish your comments (most of the time) if you write something about their crimes they have committed in their colonies. But you can do Nazi and Russian bashing as much as you can.

 

[Hack-Hook]

They bombed us so we bombed them back ten times harder. There was no morality in the war. It was kill or be killed.

we didn't bomb you , in fact we even didn't enter war we even didn't supported any side and said we are neutral but you attacked and occupied our country and in the years you have occupied our country 2 million people died because you destroyed our infrastructure .

 

[Steve781]

we didn't bomb you , in fact we even didn't enter war we even didn't supported any side and said we are neutral but you attacked and occupied our country and in the years you have occupied our country 2 million people died because you destroyed our infrastructure .

The Shah of the time had well known Nazi German sympathies.

 

[Steve781]

The people of Britain have convinced themselves that they were the most benign rulers (not colonialists or invaders, just rulers or better call them administrators) in the whole history of mankind. I have seen so many documentaries on BBC and other British TV channels, whereas they never let go any chance to remind the world how brutal were Belgians in Congo, Spanish and Portuguese in south America, French and European colonialists in their own colonies, they also never get tired of talking about the crimes done by Nazis and Stalin but you will hardly ever see them offering repentance for what they did in their own colonies. Forget the guilt feelings they even never talk about it and pretend as if had never happened. Even their newspapers will not publish your comments (most of the time) if you write something about their crimes they have committed in their colonies. But you can do Nazi and Russian bashing as much as you can.

We live in a cruel world in which you either have your own empire or you become part of somebody else's. Britain's empire wasn't always benign but we didn't do anything that every other major world power hasn't done at some point and that many other countries would do if they had the kind of power we did in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.

 

[Steve781]

dying from starvation is something invading and occupying other countries is some thing else what did hitler and stalin did that the UK did not in europe you bombed cites reducing it to the ground not just military targets in amirca the blood of the natives are on your hands in africa and asia occupation and killing and stealing resources
so please dont act as if you were on the good side fighting evil you are the EVIL in the world you and the US

We bombed Germany IN RETALIATION for them bombing us. What do you expect us to do, invite them round for tea and biscuits? Egypt killed 1500 Muslim Brotherhood supporters in a single day, supported Israel's attack on Gaza and is currently evicting Bedouin from their homes even if they have nothing to do with the insurgency in the Sinai so don't talk to me about turning the other cheek and loving your enemies.

 

[flamer84]

The Shah of the time had well known Nazi German sympathies.

Oh,give me a break.The whole reason of the war was the Nazi invasion of Poland,than,at the end of the war you traded Poland as a rag to the Soviets to be dragged in a concentration camp for 45 years.Nevermind that the Soviets invaded Poland to.You're talking to us about flimsy excuses to invade sovereign countries for your interest,pls spare us.WW2 was not evil vs good,it was evil vs evil.2 Sides bent on mass slaughter.

 

[Steve781]

Oh,give me a break.The whole reason of the war was the Nazi invasion of Poland,than,at the end of the war you traded Poland as a rag to the Soviets to be dragged in a concentration camp for 45 years.Nevermind that the Soviets invaded Poland to.You're talking to us about flimsy excuses to invade sovereign countries for your interest,pls spare us.WW2 was not evil vs good,it was evil vs evil.2 Sides bent on mass slaughter.

Eastern Europe was lost anyway. Yalta was about saving Western Europe.
When did Britain try to wipe out the entire population of Jews, Gypsies or Slavs from Europe?

 

[Hack-Hook]

The Shah of the time had well known Nazi German sympathies.

No . you asked us to deport German contractor who were building Iran railroads and transportation infrastructure and we said no because we were neutral and if we wanted to deport them we most also have deported your contractor to stay neutral . so you claim that the King of Pahlavi was pro German just for that. even if he was pro Germany what he did to support Germany for that war ? nothing he even gave all of Iran oil to England , so much for your pro Germany claim .

more importantly it had nothing to do with the reason you attacked our country . the reason you attacked was that you wanted to get control of Iran railroad which was like a bridge between safe water and Russia latter they even called that railroad the bridge of Victory. that help you guys defeat Germany in Russian front .

 

[Steve781]

You're right that we would have invaded Iran anyway for strategic reasons but the Shah definitely preferred Germany. He had developed a close relationship with them ever since Hitler came to power.
I'm also not sure you can attribute 2 million deaths to Britain when the Russians led the operation and stayed after we left in order to try and create a Communist state in the Azeri regions.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Eastern Europe was lost anyway. Yalta was about saving Western Europe.
When did Britain try to wipe out the entire population of Jews, Gypsies or Slavs from Europe?

Britain was as evil as USSR or Germany the proof is that they were aware of the slaughter of Polish officer by Stalin but hide it and if It was not for Hitler that broadcast it to the world we were not aware of it till today.

in Short in WW2 you attacked all the countries that had nothing to do with the war to gain advantage in your war with each other

 

[flamer84]

Eastern Europe was lost anyway. Yalta was about saving Western Europe.
When did Britain try to wipe out the entire population of Jews, Gypsies or Slavs from Europe?

Bombing civilian cities still equates as war crimes.Trading nations for your interest still equates as a moral and historic crime.Closing a blind eye to Soviet invasions of Finland,Romania,The Baltics just because it helped your war strategy still equates as hipocrisy.

Don't get me started with the Boer extermination camps or other crimes of the British Empire.Ofcourse for me,the past is the past and i admire that the UK and Germany have evolved past their mistakes.Russia hasn't,unfortunately and there lies the crux of the matter.

 

[mike2000]

4 millions starved to death looks tiny to you. That just top of the iceberg, they had same history throughout 150 years of British Raj.

i dont think he meant 4 million starving to death is tiny. You indians as i said before, tend to focus just on the bad things we did when you were our colony. You dont also talk about the good things we did, like infrastructure/railways(which was the longest/most advanced in Asia for a longg time, not our fault it isnt anymore), democratic political system, laws, rules and regulations and the fact that we not only unify India into one country/central government but made it bigger by seizing more land from China(Tibet) and other neighbouring countries to incorporate it into India. So as i said earlier, without us, there will be no India as we all knwo it today. It will be at least 5 to 7 different countries(or even more) had we not occupied the country and unify it under our rule.

So i will ask all of you Indians 1 question: Do you think without us, India will be the country it is today(as big geographically/landmass ) without us? YES OR NO? Be honest.
So if anything you should stress the bad things we did YES, but dont also forget to mention what i just pointed out bro.

 

[Steve781]

Bombing civilian cities still equates as war crimes.Trading nations for your interest still equates as a moral and historic crime.Closing a blind eye to Soviet invasions of Finland,Romania,The Baltics just because it helped your war strategy still equates as hipocrisy.

Don't get me started with the Boer extermination camps or other crimes of the British Empire.Ofcourse for me,the past is the past and i admire that the UK and Germany have evolved past their mistakes.Russia hasn't,unfortunately and there lies the crux of the matter.

Of course it was underhanded behaviour. But was there any other way? There were no easy solutions to end the war which left everybody happy. Those who weren't there at the time and didn't have to make the hard decisions shouldn't judge.