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Putin appears preparing to attack Saudi Arabia and Qatar next, Illarionov says

Attack on Makkah n Madina is not going to happen russia knows that already from afghanistan war was torn in to pieces,if it happened then russia will be gone.attack on qatar only will not provoke other muslim countries that much.
Mecca and Madina exist 1320 years befor Saudis dominated over Arabian desert and spread their terrorist cult all over the Islamic countries. Destroying Saudi wahhabi terrorist regime doesn't mean attacking holy sites of Muslims.

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Putin appears preparing to attack Saudi Arabia and Qatar next, Illarionov says

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This image from the Russian Defense Ministry shows a Russian Air Force bomb hitting a target in Syria. Khaled Khoja, head of the Syrian National Council opposition group, said at the UN that Russian air strikes killed dozens of civilians, with children among the dead. Photo: AP

2015/11/19 • ANALYSIS & OPINION, RUSSIA

Events of recent days may have obscured what is the most important development of all: Vladimir Putin appears to be preparing for a Russian military strike against Saudi Arabia and Qatar, a move that would dramatically worsen the situation in the Middle East and send oil prices soaring, according to Andrey Illarionov.



Andrey Illarionov, Russian economist and former economic policy advisor to the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin. Currently, a senior fellow in the Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity at the Cato Institute in Washington, DC (Image: Voice of America)

Heargues that Russia’s bombing of targets in Syria, Putin’s success at the G20, “the de facto paralysis of NATO,” Russia’s acquisition of France as an ally, US intelligence sharing with Russia, and proposals for restructuring of Ukraine’s debt distract the world’s attention from Moscow’s preparations for such attacks.

The Moscow analyst says that “the vigilance of the West has been weakened” by this series of events, thus opening the way for Moscow to carry out a strategic operation that it has been hoping to launch against “military, infrastructure and energy sites in Saudi Arabia and Qatar.”

As he typically does, Illarionov presents a careful listing of the evidence he has for his conclusion which if true would highlight some of the dangers involved of including Moscow in any alliance to fight international terrorism because such attacks would almost certainly provoke more of it.

Illarionov calls attention to 15 indicators or steps he suggests show that Putin is planning for such attacks:

  1. Moscow knew that terrorist shot down the plane over Sinai “at a minimum on the third day after” it occurred.
  2. But the Russian authorities did not announce that they knew until “after the conclusion of the G20 summit in Antalya in order to “avoid a practically inevitable discussion in that event of the nature of the possible Russian response to the terrorist action.”
  3. However, “in order not to lose time,” Moscow announced that it was a terrorist act as soon as the Antalya summit was over.
  4. The FSB immediately then put out details that it had not been prepared to release earlier.
  5. Putin said that Russia would do whatever it took “to find and punish the criminals” regardless of when they acted or where they are now.
  6. The Kremlin leader said that he had tasked all of Russia’s force structures to come up with a plan that would deal with all those involved.
  7. Putin declared that Russia “will act in correspondence with Article 51 of the UN Charter which recognizes the right of states to self-defense,” thus cloaking himself in international law for a possible act on particular states.
  8. Already at Antalya, Putin had said that it was necessary to strike at those who “finance terrorist activities,” a group of countries which include Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
  9. The FSB announced in an unprecedented move that it was offering a 50 million US dollar reward to anyone who could provide evidence about the terrorist acts and these links, an amount certainly guaranteed to lead some to provide what they see as evidence of Saudi or Qatar complicity.
  10. Such attacks would be unthinkable, of course, if the US acted in defense of those countries; but that is unlikely. On the one hand, the US is less dependent on oil from there than it was; and on the other, President Barack Obama, compared to his predecessors, is less willing to act in that way.
  11. “The Kremlin’s conviction that the current US Administration is hardly likely to support Saudi Arabia has been essentially strengthened by the refusal of the US and the UK to support not only Saudi Arabia or Ukraine but even France, a member of NATO, in its assessment of the Paris terrorist actions as an act of war and consequently to invoke Article 5 of the NATO Charter.”
  12. This refusal contrasts sharply with what happened after September 11, 2001, and prompted French President Francois Hollande to go to Moscow and seek an alliance with Putin.
  13. “The vigilance of the West has been weakened as well by the changes at first glance of the Kremlin’s course,” including the bombing of ISIS targets in Syria and a more positive stance on restructuring Ukraine’s foreign debt, changes that have been amplified by “a massive propaganda campaign of the Kremlin and the Putinintern.”
  14. Consequently, “in the near future, Saudi Arabia (and possibly Qatar) could be declared sponsors of international terrorism and thus one way or another involved in the deaths of hundreds of Russian citizens. Invoking Article 51 of the UN Charger, the Kremlin could carry out an operation of revenge.”
  15. The consequences of such attacks on oil prices are obvious, and the refusal of the US and the UK to invoke Article 5 of the NATO Charter for the defense of France marks the de facto paralysis of this organization and in essence an open invitation to the carrying out of new aggression against its other members.”
Putin appears preparing to attack Saudi Arabia and Qatar next, Illarionov says -- EUROMAIDAN PRESSEuromaidan Press |

If Saudi and Qatar is complicit in terror then it will obviously invite Russian response. What is wrong in it? Why a state have to sponsor terrorism of any sort. It's an act of war?

If there is enough evidence then how would US defend these countries? Oh ya you got evidence but you can't act on them more they are our buddies? Russia will tarnish US image and it's move to put economical ban on them. Make no mistake. Russia won't think twice to go after terror hubs... World had enough of this terror attacks.

Time to choke the financial aid provided for these networks. If it gonna be a war so be it. No one can sponsor terrorism. Those days are gone.

But what would be Russian response to those. Who target India?

Well it's India who should take firm stance to finish it at any cost. Then if Russia don't want take part that would be something which will change Indo Russian friendship for ever

Russia is on the brink of an economic collapse. Whilst any attack on Saudi will raise oil prices temporarily the ensuing permanent enmity will destroy Russia in the long term. The Russian are not that stupid. No country takes on another unless guaranteed of victory.... Saudi and Qatar just too rich and influential in the world order.
Russia now doing what US did the n Soviet era. Keep the pot boiling for selling ingredients for cooking... If US don't double think about its economic sanction against Russia then things gonna get very bad. I think Russia could bang Turkey or other US ally to arm twist US to the diplomatic table for talks on lifting economic sanction. US can't invade Russia or Russia can't invade US. But the rest gonna get some real arss whopping by these two super power of this world
 
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can't trust anything Euromaidan nazis or any of their analysts say about Russia but I still hope this is true, finish the al Sauds, stop them funding terror in their neighbourhood and exporting their poisonous ideology to all parts of the globe and the world will be a better place.
 
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Mullah boy, how about your garbage Ayatollahs try to attack KSA instead? You're surly a superpower and a hundred times stronger than Russia as your mullahs claim so why not prove it and try to attack KSA?
 
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Looks like Mr. Illarionov got his training at Indian Institute of Policy experts as his views are just as crazy as Indian experts.
Sure a CIA sells man , just doing his job ?
 
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Putin is not Bush....Putin used to be a KGB agent so he knows what a credible intelligence means...He will not attack KSA but he will have something in mind for KSA......

But KSA is no match for Russia....But still Islamic world might get united in protecting their holly land then Russia might have some problems...And also still Russia still has its all weather allies who might help it at that time.
 
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Putin is not Bush....Putin used to be a KGB agent so he knows what a credible intelligence means...He will not attack KSA but he will have something in mind for KSA......

But KSA is no match for Russia....But still Islamic world might get united in protecting their holly land then Russia might have some problems...And also still Russia still has its all weather allies who might help it at that time.
which is why the holy cities need to be handled with kid gloves while the al sauds are ousted from power.
 
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Saudi, an ISIS That Has Made It!

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Black Daesh, white Daesh. The former slits throats, kills, stones, cuts off hands, destroys humanity’s common heritage and despises archaeology, women and non-Muslims. The latter is better dressed and neater but does the same things. The Islamic State; Saudi Arabia. In its struggle against terrorism, the West wages war on one, but shakes hands with the other. This is a mechanism of denial, and denial has a price: preserving the famous strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia at the risk of forgetting that the kingdom also relies on an alliance with a religious clergy that produces, legitimizes, spreads, preaches and defends Wahhabism, the ultra-puritanical form of Islam that Daesh feeds on.

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Wahhabism, a messianic radicalism that arose in the 18th century, hopes to restore a fantasized caliphate centered on a desert, a sacred book, and two holy sites, Mecca and Medina. Born in massacre and blood, it manifests itself in a surreal relationship with women, a prohibition against non-Muslims treading on sacred territory, and ferocious religious laws. That translates into an obsessive hatred of imagery and representation and therefore art, but also of the body, nakedness and freedom. Saudi Arabia is a Daesh that has made it.

The West’s denial regarding Saudi Arabia is striking: It salutes the theocracy as its ally but pretends not to notice that it is the world’s chief ideological sponsor of Islamist culture. The younger generations of radicals in the so-called Arab world were not born jihadists. They were suckled in the bosom of Fatwa Valley, a kind of Islamist Vatican with a vast industry that produces theologians, religious laws, books, and aggressive editorial policies and media campaigns.
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One might counter: Isn’t Saudi Arabia itself a possible target of Daesh? Yes, but to focus on that would be to overlook the strength of the ties between the reigning family and the clergy that accounts for its stability — and also, increasingly, for its precariousness. The Saudi royals are caught in a perfect trap: Weakened by succession laws that encourage turnover, they cling to ancestral ties between king and preacher. The Saudi clergy produces Islamism, which both threatens the country and gives legitimacy to the regime.

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One has to live in the Muslim world to understand the immense transformative influence of religious television channels on society by accessing its weak links: households, women, rural areas. Islamist culture is widespread in many countries — Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Mali, Mauritania. There are thousands of Islamist newspapers and clergies that impose a unitary vision of the world, tradition and clothing on the public space, on the wording of the government’s laws and on the rituals of a society they deem to be contaminated.

It is worth reading certain Islamist newspapers to see their reactions to the attacks in Paris. The West is cast as a land of “infidels.” The attacks were the result of the onslaught against Islam. Muslims and Arabs have become the enemies of the secular and the Jews. The Palestinian question is invoked along with the rape of Iraq and the memory of colonial trauma, and packaged into a messianic discourse meant to seduce the masses. Such talk spreads in the social spaces below, while up above, political leaders send their condolences to France and denounce a crime against humanity. This totally schizophrenic situation parallels the West’s denial regarding Saudi Arabia.

All of which leaves one skeptical of Western democracies’ thunderous declarations regarding the necessity of fighting terrorism. Their war can only be myopic, for it targets the effect rather than the cause. Since ISIS is first and foremost a culture, not a militia, how do you prevent future generations from turning to jihadism when the influence of Fatwa Valley and its clerics and its culture and its immense editorial industry remains intact?

Is curing the disease therefore a simple matter? Hardly. Saudi Arabia remains an ally of the West in the many chess games playing out in the Middle East. It is preferred to Iran, that gray Daesh. And there’s the trap. Denial creates the illusion of equilibrium. Jihadism is denounced as the scourge of the century but no consideration is given to what created it or supports it. This may allow saving face, but not saving lives.

Daesh has a mother: the invasion of Iraq. But it also has a father: Saudi Arabia and its religious-industrial complex. Until that point is understood, battles may be won, but the war will be lost. Jihadists will be killed, only to be reborn again in future generations and raised on the same books.

The attacks in Paris have exposed this contradiction again, but as happened after 9/11, it risks being erased from our analyses and our consciences.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/opinion/saudi-arabia-an-isis-that-has-made-it.html
 
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Saudi Arabian regime needs to be toppled. Russia should use the plane crash and link it to Saudi Arabia and begin air strikes against the Saudi terror regime.

Putin is not tough enough, he is tough but not as hardline as Russian hawks.
 
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If push comes to shove ,Russia will carry out nuclear attacks on Qatar and Saudi Arabia with ease. As long as it does not attack mecca and medina ,all is well.
 
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