PTI Vs PMLN + PPP => Governance Comparison

[Norwegian]

 

[airmarshal]

What exactly has Showbaz done for Punjab?

Remember Punjab Cardiology Institute disaster? Spurious drugs took lives of heart patients.

In one of the post-natal care deptts of a public hospital, mice gnawed at infants in incubators killing them.

How many times PMLN has been in govt in Punjab? 6 times.

Did it ever try to do police reforms in those 6 terms? Punjab police is a Gullu Butt police.

Did PMLN in 6 terms in the province provide clean drinking water to all Punjabis?

Did it improve its public schools and public hospitals?

WTF do the PLMN talk about? These goons have no vision. Of course, how can goons have nay vision!

 

[Norwegian]

WTF do the PLMN talk about? These goons have no vision. Of course, how can goons have nay vision!

Actually the have ONE vision: How to make most money out of public funds!

 

[TankMan]

Good lord, the Noora Logic responses made my head hurt.

Look, these things are certain
-KPK was developed greatly in 17 months, way more than any party before that has done and way more efficiently than PMLN has ever done anywhere.

-Elections were rigged massively. Almost all the constituencies opened were full of fake or unidentifiable votes. Now the point people make over here is that 'only 20 seats' or 'only 4 seats' are not enough to force the PM to resign. This same point is also against PMLN, why were they so scared of it? Unless they rigged the elections, what was there to fear from opening just 4 constituencies? What made them sideline and avoid PTI's demands for FOURTEEN MONTHS?

-PMLN has been in power, in Punjab or the whole country, SIX TIMES. A few metros or roads don't change the fact that Pakistan's situation is not improving but DETERIORATING.

So now, if you're so much in favor of 'democracy' and 'civilian government', tell me one thing: If PMLN could rig the elections once and get away with it, what's stopping anyone else from rigging it? What's stopping PPP, for example? If politicians can get away with so much cheating, where is the accountability? Where is the Democracy?
This kind of democracy is worse than Army rule. Army rule stops the country's progress but atleast it stabilizes it. These politicians start sucking it so much that it gets worse instead of improving.

 

[FaujHistorian]

What exactly has Showbaz done for Punjab?

Remember Punjab Cardiology Institute disaster? Spurious drugs took lives of heart patients.

In one of the post-natal care deptts of a public hospital, mice gnawed at infants in incubators killing them.

How many times PMLN has been in govt in Punjab? 6 times.

Did it ever try to do police reforms in those 6 terms? Punjab police is a Gullu Butt police.

Did PMLN in 6 terms in the province provide clean drinking water to all Punjabis?

Did it improve its public schools and public hospitals?

WTF do the PLMN talk about? These goons have no vision. Of course, how can goons have nay vision!

yeah. yeah.

use this logic

and bring army rule. This is what most PTInternetters want.

Froget about civilian rule. IK has no patience, no accumen. Sh Rasheed wants army rule, Hameeda gul wants army rule

By golly their puppet IK will bring army rule.

problems solved.

All of them.

Good lord, the Noora Logic responses made my head hurt.

Look, these things are certain
-KPK was developed greatly in 17 months, way more than any party before that has done and way more efficiently than PMLN has ever done anywhere.

-Elections were rigged massively. Almost all the constituencies opened were full of fake or unidentifiable votes. Now the point people make over here is that 'only 20 seats' or 'only 4 seats' are not enough to force the PM to resign. This same point is also against PMLN, why were they so scared of it? Unless they rigged the elections, what was there to fear from opening just 4 constituencies? What made them sideline and avoid PTI's demands for FOURTEEN MONTHS?

-PMLN has been in power, in Punjab or the whole country, SIX TIMES. A few metros or roads don't change the fact that Pakistan's situation is not improving but DETERIORATING.

So now, if you're so much in favor of 'democracy' and 'civilian government', tell me one thing: If PMLN could rig the elections once and get away with it, what's stopping anyone else from rigging it? What's stopping PPP, for example? If politicians can get away with so much cheating, where is the accountability? Where is the Democracy?
This kind of democracy is worse than Army rule. Army rule stops the country's progress but atleast it stabilizes it. These politicians start sucking it so much that it gets worse instead of improving.

then keep on working at it.

use the remaining time till 2018 and develop it further. Has anyone in other parties tried to snatch your gov in KP. NO.

Take your dharnas and use them for something positive

instead of $hitting and defecating out in front of the parliament.

Actually the have ONE vision: How to make most money out of public funds!

proven or unproven. doesn't matter. right?

Anyways 2018, vote them out.

No cry baby behavior please. Be grown ups.

 

[WishLivePak]

I'm sick and tired of hearing this dumb question about what PTI govt in KPK has done during their 17 months rule? Here is a food for thought for all those who challenge PTI and IK?

Let's do a bit of history and basic numeracy:


Nawaz Shareef

• Finance Minister Punjab from 1979 to 1985 (72 months)
• CM Punjab from 1985 to 1988 (36 months)
• CM Punjab from 1988 to 1990 (24 months)
• PM Pakistan 1990 to 1993 (30 months)
• PM Pakistan 1997 to 1999 (30 months)
• PM Pakistan 2013 to date (17 months)

• Total Governance = 209 months

Shahbaz Shareef

• Cabinet Minister Punjab 1985 to 1990 (60 months)
• CM Punjab 1990 to 1993 (30 months)
• CM Punjab 1997 to 1999 (30 months)
• CM Punjab 2008 to date (75 months)

• Total Governance = 195 months

Total Governance PML-N (209 + 195) = 404 months


Pakistan Peoples Party

• ZA Bhutto 1972 to 1977 (60 months)
• BB 1988 to 1990 (20 moths)
• BB 1993 to 1997 (33 months)
• Zardari 2008 to 2013 (60 months)
• Sindh Govt about (203 months)

• Total Governance PPP = 376 months

TOTAL GOVERNANCE PMLN + PPP (404 + 376) = 780 MONTHS




Now tell me what have these two parties achieved in 780 MONTHS? And what right do they have to ask PTI and IK for their 17 months performance?

Please be mindful that 17 is 2.18% of 780. Which means those who ruled for 97.82% of the democracy period in Pakistan are holding those accountable whose total governance is a mere 2.18%.

Those who are gonna come up with: Army didn't let PMLN / PPP complete their terms etc cr@p. These 17 months of KP govt have also been troublesome. They have leg pulling coalition partners who are whining a lot at almost every issue since start, they have terrorism issues in province since KP is right next to a battle zone and no investor is willing to go their etc. The point is, every govt had issues of their own, stop whining and let us know what exactly has been done to exploit the natural resources, minerals, man power of this nation till date?

When it comes to their own accountability the answer is: System is in danger, democracy will be overthrown, ban this channel, ban that anchor, replace that institutional head, change that Judge, and so on and on.

SHAME ON THE TWO PARTIES!

Can I challenge you?

You won't run away right? Because I don't want to offer explaination and you don't understand it.

 

[FaujHistorian]

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hhahaahh


Looks like Zadari Bhutto asking his mum dad for money/food instead of getting a job.


hahahah.

True Burger guy. very true burger.

 

[TankMan]

yeah. yeah.

use this logic

and bring army rule. This is what most PTInternetters want.

Froget about civilian rule. IK has no patience, no accumen. Sh Rasheed wants army rule, Hameeda gul wants army rule

By golly their puppet IK will bring army rule.

problems solved.

All of them.



then keep on working at it.

use the remaining time till 2018 and develop it further. Has anyone in other parties tried to snatch your gov in KP. NO.

Take your dharnas and use them for something positive

instead of $hitting and defecating out in front of the parliament.



proven or unproven. doesn't matter. right?

Anyways 2018, vote them out.

No cry baby behavior please.

Ik doesn't want Army rule. Never did. 'Third Umpire' was the Awaam.

Has anyone in other parties tried to snatch your gov in KP. NO.

Yes, actually. Very much. Aside from constant statements, lies and general hostility, they have tried to a pass no-confidence motion against KPK's PTI CM.

proven or unproven. doesn't matter. right?

Matters a lot. Proven or Unproven, investigation and reforms would be very good. Only one who can be against these things are people who rig elections, and PMLN was clearly against them. So, the most logical explanation is that PMLN was involved in the rigging. Either way, they were wrong to delay the investigations and disregard demands for reforms.

Anyways 2018, vote them out.

Yeah yeah, sure. Without electoral reforms the next elections can be rigged very easily. PMLN has not let these reforms happen, heck they didn't even want to let an investigation take place, they delayed it for 14 months.

hhahaahh


Looks like Zadari Bhutto asking his mum dad for money/food instead of getting a job.


hahahah.

True Burger guy. very true burger.

Every Pakistani's situation is like in the picture. Burger my hairy ***.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Ik doesn't want Army rule. Never did. 'Third Umpire' was the Awaam.
.

He meant army

When objected, he changed it to "God"

you are now being loyal follower of cult, changing it further.

This is obfuscation at its best.



p.s. Bhai you are in UK. Get education and get a job. It is not Pak gov responsibility to feed you in UK.

 

[TankMan]

He meant army

When objected, he changed it to "God"

you are now being loyal follower of cult, changing it further.

This is obfuscation at its best.



p.s. Bhai you are in UK. Get education and get a job.

Why the hell would a leader tell the whole world his sinister and secret plan anyways? Seriously dude, if he had any plan with the army, he would take care not to tell everyone about it.
I don't follow Imran Khan. I just agree with his ideas and party. I wouldn't care for him if he wasn't right.
My mistake about the awaam part. First he said it's Allah and he followed that by saying that 'faisla aap [awaam] ka hai'.

Bhai you are in UK. Get education and get a job

I am not in UK. I am here temporarily and will be back to Pakistan soon. Do I need to make this my signature? I've said it a dozen times already. All my education and life is in Pakistan.

 

[Norwegian]

He meant army

No, he didn't and he never said that either secretly or openly to any of his other insafians. If army was on his side, how come it took them so long to intervene and also COAS did nothing when violence was ongoing at Constitution Avenue.

 

[Asian.Century]

Yes they do...Can you tell me the exact stats of Punjab before SS came into the pix and now after how many every years he has been in it?

And compare where he was in 17 mths after his FIRST appointment....And also tell me how was Punjab before he took was it even close to KPK? No it was always way better than KPK ALAWAYS KPK never led Punjab so for a party to turn it around in 17 mths is REALLY SOMETHING and if you are blind to that FACT then you def ARE blind!

Sister,

Punjab budget 2008/09, before SS came to power was only Rs 490 billion (which is KPK total budget today) which included Rs 180 billion for carrying Public Sector Development Programmes (PSDP) as compared to current Punjab budget of total Rs 1 trillion in 2014...that was the time where both KPK and Punjab were suffering from daily terrorist bombings.

Since Shahbaz Shariff took over as PMLN Provincial govt came into power in 2008/2009: Punjab Finance Minister Tanvir Ashraf Kaira, present the budget with the income estimate in the revenue account for 2009-10 is Rs 423.5 billion, while the Punjab province would receive Rs 321 billion from the National Finance Commission (NFC) under the federal divisible pool. He said the federal government would also provide Rs 11 billion to the province through grants and direct payments. He said the province would collect Rs 49.7 billion through taxes and Rs 41.8 through non-tax revenues.

Expenditures: The minister said the government has estimated expenditure of Rs 314.8 billion, including subsidies of Rs 30 billion, for the upcoming fiscal year. The subsidies include Rs 6.5 billion for the sasti roti scheme, and Rs 13 billion for food stamps, in addition to initiatives for poverty reduction, and education programmes, he added.

He said the government would spend Rs 43 billion to improve the law and order situation, which would include purchase of equipment for counter-terrorism operations; Rs 16.2 billion on the Punjab Food Support Scheme; Rs 4.3 billion to computerise the land revenue record; Rs 2 billion on a disaster management service, which would include the government extending the emergency service to more cities of the province; and Rs 3 billion to establish the Daanish School System and Centres of Excellent Authority.

Pro-poor: Kaira said the Annual Development Programme (ADP) was pro-poor. He said the government had provided 15 percent ad hoc relief allowance to its employees, adding it had increased the pension of retired employees by 15 percent. The Punjab government gave Rs 160 billion ADP in 2008-09, which was 60 percent more than the 2007-08 budget. However, for the upcoming financial year, there is only a nine percent increase in the ADP.

On the other hand: KPK Minister Rahimdad Khan presented on Wednesday a Rs 214.2 billion tax-free budget in the provincial assembly for the 2009-10 fiscal year, revealing a Rs 3.1 billion deficit in revenue receipts and expenditures.

State of 2014 Punjab Budget now, clear marked difference allocated as Shahbaz S CM of Punjab:

Broadening the tax net instead of burdening the existing taxpayers and setting up of coal and solar power plants from own resources are the highlight of Punjab government’s over Rs 1 Trillion budget for the next fiscal year 2014.

Punjab Budget - Rs362m for culture development salient features, Rs 10 bln for Multan Metro, Punjab Govt allocates Rs 1.86b for women development, Pb govt earmarks Rs 541 mln for Labour & HR, Pb govt to set up 3 universities in 2014-15, Rs 2,165 mln allocated for Multan Road in city, Rs20 billion, Metro bus projects would be started in Multan and Faisalabad during the next financial year, Owners of five-marla houses in the A-category will have to pay property tax while the scope of GST on services has been proposed to be extended to 43 sectors from the present 37, the Punjab government plans to establish from own resources coal and solar power projects. A sum of Rs31 billion has been allocated for setting up coal power plants in Rahim Yar Khan and Muzaffargarh, provision of laptops to talented secondary school students would be continued while setting up of information technology labs have been proposed in all middle schools of the province, A veterinary university in Bahawalpur and an IT University in Rahim Yar Khan

Provincial Minister Mujtaba Shuja ur Rehman presented a public-friendly, balanced, developmental and tax free budget worth over 1 Trillion in total.

Following are the salient features of the Punjab budget;

1.The Punjab budget is a key and basic document of a revolutionary welfare programme.
2.Elimination of load shedding is top priority of present government and Punjab government has allocated Rs 31 billion for energy sector in new financial year.
3.Rs 17 billion have been allocated for Quaid-i-Azam Solar Park in the next financial year.
4.People and trade institutions will be motivated to use low electricity consuming equipment and for this purpose 2.5 billion rupees have been allocated.
5.Government has decided to allocate 36 percent of total development funds of the province for South Punjab in the next budget.
6.Projects worth Rs 263 billion have been started in South Punjab and a sum of Rs 119 billion has been allocated for these projects during next year.
7.The dream of development cannot be materialized without ensuring protection of human lives and maintenance of law and order. Government has enhanced 16 percent of police budget and allocated Rs 81.68 billion in the next year’s budget.
8.An amount of Rs 5 billion has been allocated for meeting additional needs of law and order and coping with terrorism.
9.Government has allocated an overall amount of Rs 273 billion for education sector at provincial and district level.
10.Rs 48.31 billion are being allocated for development projects relating to education sector.
11.Rs 14.05 billion have been allocated for development budget of Punjab Higher Education.
12.Punjab government has allocated a total of 121.80 billion rupees for health sector at provincial and district level in the next budget.
13.Yellow cab scheme has proved to be very popular among the people due to which 50 thousand more yellow cabs worth Rs 25 billion would be distributed among the people enabling 50 thousand families earn their livelihood.
14.A huge amount of Rs 17.11 billion has been allocated for different projects of potable water and drainage of water under public health.
15.Government has allocated 14.97 billion rupees for the promotion of agriculture and welfare of cultivators.
16.Government has decided to give subsidy of five billion rupees to the farmers for providing fertilisers.
17.A sum of Rs 50.8 billion has been allocated for the rehabilitation of irrigation system, development of water resources and maintenance of canals.
18.Rs 39.56 billion have been allocated for communication & works sector.
19.Rs 8.93 billion have been allocated for the uplift of livestock sector.
20.Rawalpindi-Islamabad metro bus project will cost 41.40 billion rupees and this project would be completed during next financial year.
21.Metro bus has project been announced for Multan which will be completed at a cost of Rs 30 billion.
22.27.1km-long metro train project is being launched in provincial metropolis, which will be completed in a record period of 27 months with investment China.
23.A programme has been chalked out for imparting technical education to 2 million persons during next four years and a huge amount of six billion rupees will be spent on it.
24.Two billion more rupees have been allocated for Punjab Educational Endowment during next financial year.
25.Five Daanish Schools would be set up at Mailsi, Lodhran, Jhang, Taunsa and Fort Monroe during next year and Rs 2 billion have been purposed for this purpose.
26.There is a proposal of allocating 7.5 billion rupees for Punjab Educational Foundation.
27.Rs 1.2 billion are being allocated in the next budget for converting IT labs in high and secondary schools on solar energy.
28.Rs 3.5 billion are being allocated for giving 100,000 laptops to talented students on merit.
29.Rs 4 billion are being allocated for issuance of health insurance cards due to which low income people will get the facility of free treatment in public and private institutions, one billion rupees are being allocated for mobile health unit.
30.Rs 4.14 billion are being allocated for land record computerization in new financial year.
31.It has been decided to allocate two billion rupees for distribution of interest free loans for providing job opportunities to jobless youth.
32.Rs 2.56 billion have been allocated for the promotion of forests, fisheries and wildlife.
33.Government has allocated a huge sum of five billion rupees for the provision of edible items at reasonable rates to low income people during the month of Ramazan.
34.In order to ensure active role of women in socio-economic sector, a sum of Rs 1.86 billion has been allocated in the budget.
35. A plan has been made for construction of 20 thousand houses for labourers during the next financial year while four new Aashiyana schemes will be launched.
36.Tax evasion would be checked through transparency in tax system and better supervision. Additional revenue of about Rs 15 billion is expected to be generated due to these steps.

Total Summary of Punjab Govt 1 Trillion Budget:

• The total estimate of running expenditure for the year 2012-13 is Rs 532.8 billion while a total estimate of the developmental expenditure is Rs. 250 billion.
• In view of energy crisis, a huge amount of Rs.10 billion has been allocated in the budget for energy sector.
• A sum of Rs.80 billion has been proposed in the development budget for the uplift projects of Southern Punjab for the year 2012-13 which is 32 percent of the total development budget.
• A sum of Rs.14 billion is being allocated for the welfare of women in the developmental budget for the next financial year.
• Rs 4 billion have been earmarked for laptop scheme under which 125000 more laptops would be distributed among talented students.
• Such educational institutions as are charging more than Rs 5,000 fee will allocate ten percent seats for the poor students from the next financial year.
• Punjab government and district governments will spend an amount of Rs.195 billion on education sector in the next financial year.
• An amount of Rs.11 billion has been allocated for metro bus system in the next financial year with which this project will be completed. It will be the first urban mass transit project in Pakistan.
• A sum of Rs.6.50 billion is being earmarked in next financial year for Punjab Education Foundation for the promotion of education.
• Eight Daanish Schools will be established in Vehari, Layyah, Lodhran and Bhakkar districts during the next financial year for which a sum of two billion rupees has been allocated.
• A total of Rs.84 billion will be spent on health sector during next financial year.
• A total of Rs.16.50 billion are being allocated for development programme in health sector during the financial year 2012-13. Five billion 50 crore rupees are being earmarked for achieving millennium development goals in health sector.
• A sum of Rs.62.90 billion will be spent on infrastructure development in the development budget for the next year.
• Punjab government believes in implementation of development programmes at local level and for this purpose, a huge sum of Rs.31.90 billion is being allocated for the implementation of district projects.
• A sum of Rs.34 billion has been proposed for pro-poor schemes in the budget 2012-13.
• Rs 2 billion are being allocated in the next financial year for Aashiyana Housing Scheme and four new housing schemes will be set up.
• In order to maintain the price of ‘Atta’ at reasonable level for the benefit of common man, a sum of Rs.27.50 billion has been proposed in the next financial year.
• In order to provide better public transport facilities, a subsidy of Rs 2 billion has been proposed in the next budget.
• Work on new irrigation projects would be started with a sum of Rs.28 billion in the next financial year. Implementation of the project for the restoration of Jinnah Barrage project with the cooperation of World Bank with a sum of Rs.12 billion has been started.
• Rs.1.50 billion are being allocated in the next budget for improving the performance of judiciary.
• Punjab government has increased the salaries and pensions of provincial government employees by 20 percent. This raise will be effective from July 01, 2012.

So which part of Punjab looks close to this by now, huh?

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‪#‎Peshawar‬ Development Authority completed solar electrification of Hayatabad Peshawar.

‪#‎NayaKPK‬ ‪#‎NayaPakistan‬


Peshawar Development Authority completed solar electrification of Hayatabad, Peshawar. We are not only innovating of creating cheap electricity for all of Pakistan, but are also working on ways to reduce the consumption via innovative solutions.

The pictures you posted about a section of Peshwar solar make over, Punjab has already completed long time ago, even small cities like Gujrawala has these LED Solar lights all over, infact the connection between Lahore- Gujrawala main road connections have all LED solar lights.

The day Shabaz Sharif turns a neglected province say Blaochistan around will be the day you can clap your hands!

Add on:
Solar power usages

Students of CECOS University in Peshawar's Hayatabad area say they have built a working prototype of a solar-powered rickshaw that will not only save drivers the fuel costs, but will also be environment-friendly.

“We want to provide the local public such transportation means which are clean, free from noise pollution, will save the expense of petrol, and are also safe for the drivers and passengers,” says Mohammad Hilal Khan, the head of the project team that built the ‘green rickshaw’.

The environment-friendly rickshaw is completely automatic, and can attain speeds of up to 40 kilometres per hour.

Compared to regular rickshaws, the vehicle does not have a CNG or petrol-based engine but is equipped with batteries that are charged through electricity generated from solar energy.

“This is the cheapest form of energy — it reduces our dependency on petrol, diesel or any such fuel," says student Ali Shah Khan, who was involved in the project.

The 'green rickshaw' project, aimed at introducing environment-friendly transportation in the local market, was funded by the Directorate of Science and Technology in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa at a cost of just under Rs300,000 (USD3,000).

The young engineers say that, if properly supported by the government, the idea can be introduced into the public transport system.

“We need to further improve this and take it to the commercial level so that we can also improve durability. The idea can be improved if supported by the government,” says Suhaib Khan, a teacher supervising the students on the project.

The young engineers are hopeful that the technology will also help in reducing road traffic accidents.

Young Peshawar engineers build solar-powered rickshaw - Pakistan - DAWN.COM


and the post I posted before this

It is a very strange thing to ask that a Chief Minister of Punjab Shahbaz Shariff, you asking him to turn around Balochistan, which does not even comes under its authority. Shahbaz Shariff has completely changed Lahore in the Paris of East, Look at Multan, Faisalabad, Islamabad, Sialkot, Rawalpindi now, a 70% change over to what it was in 2008. Fact is under Prime MInister Nawaz Balochistan new government with Balochi BNP nationists are much happier and supportive. It is a successful Baloch Provincial govt with lot of money at thier disposal fpr welfare purposes, Gwadar is handed to China and its under rapid transformation, the road and rail links are being completed in Balochistan.

I mean I can put, put more at more, the fact is the people of Punjab as well as people of Sindh are very happy with thier provincial governments work, and the only butt hurt person is the KPK govt PTI chariman Imran Khan, who is responsible for wasting Punjabis money, and time, but also responsible for economic disruption, and Chinese leader postponed of visit. Tell me what has PTI and Imran Khan contributed till now in dharnas and protests and jalsas for the welfare of the people of Punjab or Sindh or Balochistan or even KPK provnice, other than daily crying and whinning self-fishly about his defeats and humilations. Sorry 17-20 seats showing up as fraudalent does not mean over 300 seats and whole elections whom most are fairly won become void, the game is over for PTI and Imran Khan now, and even PAT has left you all alone.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Sorry but it was your ik who made these fake promises

PTI will end corruption in 19 days, terrorism in 90 days: Imran Khan – The Express Tribune

Now people ask these questions because of these unrealistics claims/statements of Ik

 

[WishLivePak]

Sorry but it was your ik who made these fake promises

PTI will end corruption in 19 days, terrorism in 90 days: Imran Khan – The Express Tribune

Now people ask these questions because of these unrealistics claims/statements of Ik

This


He didn't say oh give us full 5 year term, he said give me 90 days. That's what many of us are pissed off about. To add more fire, we didn't care if he takes 5 years instead of 90 days, but he has his focused elsewhere and is hell bent on destroying Pakistan. We want to vote in 2018 on governence of 5 years, not 17 months or on how many people he brought to his dharna.


I also want to add you have to completely disregard PMLN and PPP performance before 2008, in its entirely.

Reason being, Nawaz was puppet of army and there was a political war going on between army and democracy. One hand were the league being funded by army and other hand we had ppp. Both were hell bent on ending others term, through courts or presidents (presidents and army chief being rewarded). Moreover it was a war of political ideology. One favoured nationalization and other privatization.

even the last PPP term, zardari just wanted to get by. No confrontations with military, reward as many people so no one goes against, subsidies to keep people quiet etc

 

[FaujHistorian]

No, he didn't and he never said that either secretly or openly to any of his other insafians. If army was on his side, how come it took them so long to intervene and also COAS did nothing when violence was ongoing at Constitution Avenue.

Bhai meray,

He misread and was mislead by the likes of Sh. Rasheed.

Sh. Rasheed is on record saying army will intervene.

and Sh. Rasheed has been making IK to dance on his tunes. Please come closer to pakistan. Sitting in Norway and listening to theories will not help.

I say this with all my sincerity.

Sh. Rasheed ruined IK to the point that I can't even explain.


So sorry to see this nice guy.

But then you have heard. In politics nice guys finish last.