Featured Project Azm: Pakistan's Ambitious Quest to Develop 5th Generation Military Technologies.

[Syed1.]

Where the report got mock up from?

 

[faithfulguy]

Fake...

Pakistan will build a fifth gen aircraft before supa powa. But supa powa will win at bragging.

 

[TOTUU]

korea 4.5gen KF-70Aa

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

@Maarkhoor did it fly yet?

 

[Haris Ali2140]

@Maarkhoor did it fly yet?

We haven't even have seen it on paper yet.

 

[Imran Khan]

just fake thing

 

[Maarkhoor]

@Maarkhoor did it fly yet?

Not even drawing complete, just on papers.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

paf and twin engine aircraft are two light-years apart phenomena.

 

[IceCold]

Its not fake, its been posted on the tail of one of PAF's C-130s.
Plus why do we always tend to be so pessimist? Its just a conceptual design. I was reading an article which says it wont be coming alive anywhere before 2030 more than a decade away. So lets all relax and cherish the fact that a small country with a very limited budget is actually trying to build a 5th generation fighter.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

paf and twin engine aircraft are two light-years apart phenomena.

You have to start at some point.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This one inspired from you know which plane , of course our Mirage


However all these 3 designs are under serious consideration

 

[jupiter2007]

Pakistan’s “Project Azm” whose centrepiece involves development of its own fifth generation fighter has accelerated, with first of the four “conceptual design phase” cycles being concluded.

The MoDP yearbook stated that the AvRID Secretariat has completed the first cycle of the conceptual design. It stated, “The first cycle of the conceptual design phase has been completed. The first configuration that was designed based on the challenging performance requirements of PAF will go through three more cycles within the conceptual design using higher fidelity analysis tools and codes.”

The Fifth-Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) is the highlight of the much-anticipated Project Azm, which outlines the PAF’s ambition for developing a state of the art aviation industrial base within the country. This aviation industrial complex will support the defense capabilities of the country, alongside fulfilling civilian and commercial aviation needs.

The PAF formally initiated Project Azm in July 2017 with the objective of developing an FGFA, a medium-altitude and long-endurance (MALE) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), new munitions, and other projects.

When it announced Project Azm, the then Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Sohail Aman, had stated that the design work of the MALE UAV was in its “final stages.” The 2017-2018 MoDP yearbook stated that the scheduled deadline for the MALE UAV’s maiden flight was June 2019.

In terms of the FGFA, in a recent interview with the PAF Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan, stated that he does not expect the FGFA to become operational for “another decade.”

http://airrecognition.com/index.php...7Sir4c6PvXWZEINmK8ca0TC5T7O67vUV0R_9O8rvLLQjo

lol I made that picture on photoshop and posted in this group few years back.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

With such a slow progress they'll have to start 6 gen... now and learn from both simultaneously. Just so that a mature 6th gen design becomes a reality in foreseeable future. Indian programs are a case in point... if you cannot deliver a product in time it will just become a case study and nothing else.

 

[IceCold]

Indian programs are a case in point... if you cannot deliver a product in time it will just become a case study and nothing else.

We are not Indians who are still struggling to get Tejas inducted. Forget 5th generation. Their closet bet was the Russian which they did not fully commit and US F-35 if they dropped the idea of S-400 and also went for a US jet for their MRCA instead of Rafale.

 

[SABRE]

With such a slow progress they'll have to start 6 gen... now and learn from both simultaneously. Just so that a mature 6th gen design becomes a reality in foreseeable future. Indian programs are a case in point... if you cannot deliver a product in time it will just become a case study and nothing else.

This is called 'maturity' in developing technologies. Essentially requiring a state to provide consistent focus to research, development, and improvements to technology it is pursuing for the period (& beyond) that technology would take to mature. For example, Aron Karp's analysis into ballistic missile development says that their development, "can be delayed into extinction, or terminated due to slow progress, excessive expense, or changes in national policy." This can be applied across the board for all technologies, civilian or military. Since he said/wrote this in 1984-1985, I would like to add on my part that rapid advancement in technologies or availability of cheaper and relatively more advanced options could also significantly impinge upon a nation's ambitions to develop certain types of technologies.

Assuming that Azm is not J-31 then the availability of J-31 in the future with more advanced configuration and lesser cost could force Pakistan to reconsider the programme. Already we are hearing rumors of PA looking into other MBTs as no news of Al-Khalid 2 emerges. If PAF begins to seek alternative advance aircraft, say for example EFT, as a stop-gap then the funds might be diverted from Azm, which would further hamper its R&D and eventual production. In essence, we need to find a balance to ensure that Azm can reach its 'maturity.' But right now there is no way of ensuring whether the economy is going to reach maturity any time soon. Without economic resources, it's virtually impossible to pursue and sustain such a programme.