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Project 28 corvettes: India to tender for composite technology for superstructure

All of you guys, stick to the thread in discussion, if anymore irrelevant posts are made, be ready for bans. Discuss what has been posted in the first post, and keep the discussion in reference to that post.

Chinese guys, plz refrain from stupid comments, keep the discussion to the thread title, no need to discuss other economic segments or things. & same goes for the Indian members too
 
Stealth warships to get deadlier IDRW.ORG

The Indian Navy’s prestigious Project 28, the programme to build four of the world’s stealthiest anti-submarine corvettes, is on track to become even more cutting edge. By the end of this month, three international shipbuilders will be bidding to provide Kolkata-based Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) with the technology to build a major part of the corvettes — the entire superstructure — with lightweight composites.

By making the superstructure, which is the upper part of the ship that rests on the hull, of lighter composite material, the 2,500-tonne warships will become lighter, stealthier and far more stable in the water. Already acclaimed as world-class warships, composite superstructures will make them amongst the most effective submarine hunters in any of the world’s navies.

Business Standard has learned that the Ministry of Defence will shortly issue tenders to three shipbuilders with extensive experience in fabricating composites. Kockums of Sweden, a subsidiary of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS), which builds the world’s stealthiest warships, the 650-tonne Visby class corvettes, is a leading contender; also in the fray are Greek shipbuilder, Intermarine; and Korea’s Kangnam Corporation.

With composite materials increasingly crucial to warships, this lucrative tender could open the door for broader partnership with Indian defence shipyards.

The three companies are maintaining a discrete silence for now, but an aide to the spokesperson of TKMS admitted, “India is an interesting market for TKMS at the moment because of the serious attention that the government of India is giving to the technical future of the Indian Navy.”

The first two corvettes of Project 28, which are nearing completion, have already been built with conventional steel superstructures. Subsequent corvettes, that is the third ship onwards, can have composite superstructures. The chairman and managing director of GRSE, Rear Admiral KC Sekhar, told Business Standard during a visit to GRSE in August that, “Composite materials technology can only be incorporated for the third and fourth ships of Project 28. The first corvette is already 90 per cent completed. Eighty per cent of the superstructure is ready for the second corvette.”

All the high technology going into Project 28 is boosting costs; GRSE and the defence ministry are locked in negotiations to finalise a price for the corvettes. Since 2003, when the order was placed, GRSE has worked on Project 28 based on nothing more than a Letter of Intent (LoI) from the ministry. The cost mentioned in that LoI was derived from the cost of the earlier Project 25A, for previous generation Kora class corvettes.

But now, that cost has ballooned, partly because of repeated changes that the Navy has demanded in order to keep Project 28 at the cutting edge of stealth technology. The LoI’s Rs 2,800 crore for the four ships of Project 28 (Rs 700 crore per corvette), has swelled to Rs 7,000 crore (Rs 1,750 crore per corvette). And, since the cost of the first ship of Project 28 was to determine the real cost of Project 28, the defence ministry has little option but to pay that amount.

But Business Standard has learned that the MoD-GRSE negotiations could soon have a happy ending.

Although the order was placed in 2003, the ministry is likely to agree to a “commencement of production” date of March 2006, to compensate for the delays caused by repeated changes in specifications.

Since the first Project 28 corvette is likely to roll out in 2012, that will amount to a notional build period of 6 years, in line with the time that most foreign shipyards take to produce the first ship of a class. Subsequent ships, however, are expected to be churned out much faster.
 
I think corvettes make a good naval option to operate against subs now that pak has the best subs in the sub continent
 
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there is a special term describing all these crap -- incredible india.

There is a place in India known as AGRA for people like you. I hope Indian member understand it, I seriously recommend you should visit it to improve your curiosity to know what India is. :rofl:
 
maritime aircrafts are no match for the armament carried by corvettes.They do provide speed though.They are a more offensive option as against corvettes which will be used in a defensive role
 
maritime aircrafts are no match for the armament carried by corvettes.They do provide speed though.They are a more offensive option as against corvettes which will be used in a defensive role

If you want armament, then have a frigate or a destroyer. Is the corvette for the coast guard?:confused:
 
If you want armament, then have a frigate or a destroyer. Is the corvette for the coast guard?:confused:

but if the global hub for warship building can't build decent frigate or destroyer, old out of dated corvette becomes an option on the table again.
 
shchinese .. You are presenting a valid discussion question and I for one agree with your assesment that corvettes should not prioritize over other long standing tech investments already undergoing presently. But you are being rude and mislabeling your argument. A bit more class would have made your question stand out in a discussion better. Propaganda is not defeated by loud noises and shaking your head violently.

As for how you want to put it, India is not a US or a developed nation. It is a developing nation and has every need to research such tech's. This could be a platform for other stealth applications as well as super conductors or composite materials. Have to start somewhere, even reverse engineering is expensive without knowing what you are playing with.
 
but if the global hub for warship building can't build decent frigate or destroyer, old out of dated corvette becomes an option on the table again.


Well you should see India destroyers and stealth frigates first, please come in 21st century.

Corvette is made escort to hunt subs while in moving with Aircraft carrier group, specific purpose , fast and lethal
 
US is testing the Littoral Combat Ship. They are quite stealth and would use to replace OHP frigates. Why won't India buy some of this instead of developing a new corvette? Since every country would sell India advance weaponry, India should take this opportunity to purchase as much advance weapons as possible. When another sanction occurs, than India can develop their weapons

Oh dont worry we will buy equipment only if its the need of the hour or else we rather prefer to built by over-selves :cheers:
 
all indian should keep these facts in mind:

1. Chinese companies are building the mobile network in india so you can afford to have your own mobile phone and talk to your families and friends without paying stupid high prices to those western nations.

2.Chinese companies are building the backbone of the Internet in india so you can post here.

3. Chinese power generators are supplying power to millions people in india, 10 billion USD projects are on the way. With such reliable and affordable generators designed, made and installed by Chinese, we helped you to save billions USD.

4. Chinese achievement in the past 30 years is a damn good example for you on how to develop into a more successful nation. We took the risk, did the hard work, and now we are offering our experience for free.


Please mention the names of those companies for our know how.
Thanks.
 
Well you should see India destroyers and stealth frigates first, please come in 21st century.

Corvette is made escort to hunt subs while in moving with Aircraft carrier group, specific purpose , fast and lethal

What kind of destroyer and frigates does Indian plan to procur? As for corvettes use to escort carrier group, see my previous posting.
 
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