Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

[The Deterrent]

India's existing ballistic missiles (SRBM and above): -

Prithvi-I : 150km
Prithvi-II : 250km
Agni-I : 750-1,250km
Agni-II : 1,500-2,500km
Agni-III : 3,500-5,000km
Agni-IV : 4,000km
Agni-V : 5,000km

Pakistan's existing ballistic missiles (SRBM and above) -

Abdali-I/II : 180+km
Ghaznavi : 290-320km
Ghauri-I : 1,500km
Shaheen-I : 1,500km
Ghauri-II : 1,800km
Shaheen-II : 2,500km

Correct me if wrong somewhere...

Missed Shaheen-IA (which you've already realized)
Shaheen-II's range is 2000km.
Ghauri-II never went operational with those range parameters. The only type of Ghauri missiles in service have maximum range of 1300km (deduced by Nodong's range) and a decreased range of ~1000km with heavier, ~1000kg payloads.

 

[Gessler]

Missed Shaheen-IA (which you've already realized)

1A is included in the Shaheen-1 part, just like how Agni-II Prime is included in the
Agni-2 part.

Shaheen-II's range is 2000km.
Ghauri-II never went operational with those range parameters. The only type of Ghauri missiles in service have maximum range of 1300km (deduced by Nodong's range) and a decreased range of ~1000km with heavier, ~1000kg payloads.

Heck, at every nook and corner of this forum I am finding conflicting reports about Pakistan's
missiles. Is there any link or proof you have to show Shaheen-2 is only 2,000km and not 2500-3000km
as @DESERT FIGHTER want me to believe?

 

[The Deterrent]

1A is included in the Shaheen-1 part, just like how Agni-II Prime is included in the
Agni-2 part.

Agni-IV is the renamed Agni-II Prime/+; a separate system. Similarly Shaheen-IA is a new system, developed a decade after Shaheen-I.

Heck, at every nook and corner of this forum I am finding conflicting reports about Pakistan's
missiles. Is there any link or proof you have to show Shaheen-2 is only 2,000km and not 2500-3000km
as @DESERT FIGHTER want me to believe?

None really, ignore it. Carry on with 2500km, but it is not beyond that, I assure you.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

1A is included in the Shaheen-1 part, just like how Agni-II Prime is included in the
Agni-2 part.



Heck, at every nook and corner of this forum I am finding conflicting reports about Pakistan's
missiles. Is there any link or proof you have to show Shaheen-2 is only 2,000km and not 2500-3000km
as @DESERT FIGHTER want me to believe?

Well i provided sources... didnt i? while the range the member mentioned didnt?

 

[Gessler]

None really, ignore it. Carry on with 2500km, but it is not beyond that, I assure you.

Not even with lighter payload?

 

[The Deterrent]

Not even with lighter payload?

Theoretically, yes. Practically...no and never will. Military wings like Strategic forces command work with standard payloads. (~1000kg in this case)

 

[Safriz]

Missed Shaheen-IA (which you've already realized)
Shaheen-II's range is 2000km.
Ghauri-II never went operational with those range parameters. The only type of Ghauri missiles in service have maximum range of 1300km (deduced by Nodong's range) and a decreased range of ~1000km with heavier, ~1000kg payloads.

with ghauri series complications were with the engine...
being a hydrazine fuelled motor it was a bit difficult to improve on it...
Solid fuel rockets are simpler in design.....

 

[Gessler]

with ghauri series complications were with the engine...
being a hydrazine fuelled motor it was a bit difficult to improve on it...
Solid fuel rockets are simpler in design.....

Are the engines directly imported or license-built in Pakistan?

 

[Safriz]

Are the engines directly imported or license-built in Pakistan?

These things are irrelevant in military strategic use..
As long as its available and it works..it gets used..
imported or smuggled..licenced or not..

 

[Gessler]

These things are irrelevant in military strategic use..
As long as its available and it works..it gets used..
imported or smuggled..licenced or not..

I'm not asking from any troll point of view.

I'm trying to know the source of powerplant for Pak's missiles JFK.

 

[Safriz]

I'm not asking from any troll point of view.

I'm trying to know the source of powerplant for Pak's missiles JFK.

liquid fuel hydrazine motors most probably sourced from north Korea..in 90s....but no evidence of later procurement...as north Koreans have improved a lot on their rockets..

solid motors most probably Balorussian or some other ex soviet state import...from their black market..not legally sourced..

Liquid fuel itself doesn't deteriorate,but are highly corrosive and epoxy coated tanks are needed...
So have long shelf life..

Solid fuels deteriorate and have shorter shelf life...

But in missiles...unless you need to launch a very large nuclear attack...such as a 20 megaton warhead or a dozen MIRV.....you don't need liquid motors.....
Solid fuel rockets being simpler and more reliable..are the prefered choice..

 

[Gessler]

liquid fuel hydrazine motors most probably sourced from north Korea..in 90s....but no evidence of later procurement...as north Koreans have improved a lot on their rockets..

solid motors most probably Balorussian or some other ex soviet state import...from their black market..not legally sourced..

Liquid fuel itself doesn't deteriorate,but are highly corrosive and epoxy coated tanks are needed...
So have long shelf life..

Solid fuels deteriorate and have shorter shelf life...

But in missiles...unless you need to launch a very large nuclear attack...such as a 20 megaton warhead or a dozen MIRV.....you don't need liquid motors.....
Solid fuel rockets being simpler and more reliable..are the prefered choice..

Thanks for info. So no Chinese motors on any Shaheen or Ghauri missiles?

 

[Safriz]

Thanks for info. So no Chinese motors on any Shaheen or Ghauri missiles?

It's another thing that how much of Chinese missile technology is actually Chinese..
most of theirs too is of Russian origins....

 

[kurup]

India's existing ballistic missiles (SRBM and above): -

Prithvi-I : 150km
Prithvi-II : 250km
Agni-I : 750-1,250km
Agni-II : 1,500-2,500km
Agni-III : 3,500-5,000km
Agni-IV : 4,000km
Agni-V : 5,000km

Correct me if wrong somewhere...

You have missed two BMs.

K-15/B-05/Sagarika/Shaurya and Prithvi-III/Dhanush .

 

[gslv mk3]

None... its under development... was probably to be launched in 2012... but wasnt probably because of funding issues... here is a pic of a Pak SLV shown in the past at IDEAS exhibition.......now probably by 2014-15:

Any sources other than that about the payload?A missile of range 4500kms can only be used to send a 50 kg sat-that too to LEO..

Also,the answer for his question is zero,we are yet to see an assembled Taimur SLV in launchpad or a stage of it or one of its engines in testing..Also it would need may advanced facilities to test those..