Prime suspect in Zainab murder case arrested, police sources say

[PakSword]

Why dont Supreme Court, ISI, MI etc merge all 3 cases and investigate them together.

Yes, that's why I am saying that SC not taking sou moto on Kasur Scandal is criminal negligence.. But because of recent events, SC will hesitate to believe anyone from media in this case..

I believe Dr. Shahid is a good man, but he was fed by someone who wanted to make a mockery of this case..

 

[Shane]

One guy said that we thought police wanted to frame this guy to save someone else.. One guy even said in a different program that victims family also asked police to focus on the real culprits rather than arresting people from the neighborhood.

This is hearsay...jitnay mon utni batain...media circus.

Concentrate on what the father said against Imran Ali.

 

[PakSword]

This is hearsay...jitnay mon utni batain...media circus.

Concentrate on what the father said against Imran Ali.

OK tell me, was it difficult for police to replace his DNA sample with someone from FATA?

Do you seriously think that that's what I mean, come on man, keep things in perspective.

I think we are discussing Kasur Scandal and Zainab's case here.. Why did you refer that police officers were are handpicked and work from someone? Your perspective was different?

 

[Shane]

OK tell me, was it difficult for police to replace his DNA sample with someone from FATA?

Tell me something, how are culprits caught? Because they are over confident and make mistakes.

I think we are discussing Kasur Scandal and Zainab's case here.. Why did you refer that police officers were are handpicked and work from someone? Your perspective was different?

Yar, is it a secret that local MPAs and MNAs influence these appointments for safeguarding their interests in the area...that many have criminals who they support on the side as they also do their dirty work besides what criminals do: criminal activities.

How do you find this strange, my man?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

This circus is what happens when we spend several million dollars on taining abroad, instead of developing new policies, SOPs, laws and rethink the way crime is fought in Pakistani context.

And when we have blind followers instead of actual thinkers to formulate new strategies. Those that we do have are becoming disheartened and fleeing overseas.

Sorry for rant but this is quite true.

If I were a leader in Pakistan. I think my biggest enemy would be jahalat. Because right now the affluent are buying an education and exporting yheir kids abroad. Where they have to give up a large part of their socio-religious identity to keep gora happy and keep the job. While, the destitute languish in darkness and suffering. And the biggest thing in my reform I would eliminate pir, faqirs etc. Because 1000s of years ago there might have been real auliyah of Allah but what we have now are pure trickster, charlatanic servants of shaytan.

 

[PakSword]

Tell me something, how are culprits caught? Because they are over confident and make mistakes.

Even then police could have saved him by replacing his DNA sample with someone else.. It is very easy and has happened in the past.. don't want to give detail here again about another case in which my friend's father was the doctor performing forensic analysis on DNA of the culprits..

Yar, is it a secret that local MPAs and MNAs influence these appointments for safeguarding their interests in the area...that many have criminals who they support on the side as they also do their dirty work besides what criminals do: criminal activities.

How do you find this strange, my man?

Not strange at all.. and the other Kasur Scandal is an example.. But no one is focusing on that case.. at all.. no one.. even we are not raising that scandal on social media..

 

[Shane]

Even then police could have saved him by replacing his DNA sample with someone else.. It is very easy and has happened in the past.. don't want to give detail here again about another case in which my friend's father was the doctor performing forensic analysis on DNA of the culprits..



Not strange at all.. and the other Kasur Scandal is an example.. But no one is focusing on that case.. at all.. no one.. even we are not raising that scandal on social media..

What else have I done but highlight 2015 video scandal in post after post after post ...

I also highlighted what everyone else forgot about Norway-Sargodha Child **** Raket.

The Sargodha scandal of 2017 is where the local culprit is on record that he charged 50-60euros for vids to clients abroad.

I'm continuously pointing out that this is criminal negligence on the part of officials at different levels of responsibility and there are clear indications of collusion on local level ignored by higher ups which amounts to criminal negligence at the least.

 

[PakSword]

What else have I done but highlight 2015 video scandal in post after post after post ...

I also highlighted what everyone else forgot about Norway-Sargodha Child **** Raket.

The Sargodha scandal of 2017 is where the local culprit is on record that he charged 50-60euros for vids to clients abroad.

I'm continuously pointing out that this is criminal negligence on the part of officials at different levels of responsibility and there are clear indications of collusion on local level ignored by higher ups which amounts to criminal negligence at the least.

I am not talking about you my friend.. you are rightfully raising your voice..

But all others.. including our beloved SC has forgotten that case.. where we have culprits identified.. tens of victims are alive and can recount the horrific details.. videos are there.. etc etc..

Very easy to bring whole mafia in the highest court.. than running around case of Zainab..

If SC or media starts from that case, it may lead to other cases very easily.. if Zainab's case is connected, SC can easily find out about it..

What I am saying that instead of starting from Zainab's case, lets start from the already identified chain of culprits..

I am also saying that any wrong facts presented in Zainab's case will adversely affect that case.. SC will not take anyone else seriously after recent saga...

 

[Shane]

I am also saying that any wrong facts presented in Zainab's case will adversely affect that case.. SC will not take anyone else seriously after recent saga...

I think that unlike Punjab Government, SCP is not looking for scape goats. CJ shall put things in perspective and form a really independent JIT instead of this one made by Punjab Government stuffed with its own cronies to get a favourable, all hunky dory report.

 

[PakSword]

I think that unlike Punjab Government, SCP is not looking for scape goats. CJ shall put things in perspective and form a really independent JIT instead of this one made by Punjab Government stuffed with its own cronies to get a favourable, all hunky dory report.

I really hope you are right...

MNAs and MPAs of Kasur are not innocent and must be investigated..

But more shameful fact is that Kasur still has more PMLN support..

 

[PakSword]

Okay guys @Verve @Shane

I believe that Dr Shahid is reaching there. This violent child pornography is common in kasur.

I hope Dr somehow gets enough evidence around it soon. Still don't know whether zainabs case is related but I think Dr is moving in the right direction by himself with the help of some good agencies.

I hope that if and when Dr is ridiculed in the court tomorrow, court doesn't just stop on 37 accounts. It should look into the matter with different other angles. I hope by tomorrow, Dr Shahid is able to bring something concrete on this subject and not confine himself to 37 accounts and zainabs case only.

 

[Verve]

Problem now is that Dr. Shahid is not ready to believe anyone.

Put Dr S aside for a minute, are you willing to believe the SSP etc from Kasur? Do you believe Shahbaz as well?

You think that the current JIT has the technical skills to investigate such a crime that could potentially involve dark web?

And this JIT wasn't formed by SC, lets see if that one is created.

 

[Ocean]

There was news about this imran having two cnics .

Now express tribune published this news to clarify cnic thing which seems like a planted article.
See
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1619009/1-zainabs-murder-holder-two-national-identity-numbers/

The report says a person when registers for crc has to give back crc when he is eligible to get cnic and he is given same identification number on cnic as the one alloted on crc. But sometimes some people do not give back crc and apply for cnic , which results in them ending up with two identification numbers. And this flaw would have been immediately detected had imran applied for a bank account, cause bank accounts verify cnic numbers whic means he ahd no bank account.

I Dont know how banks verify someones cnic number and how in such cases banks would find out he has two id numbers alloted and nadra would not have been able to find that out while issuing him original id card.

When u get crc number , your fathers cnic number is entered, when u are issued ur cnic ur fathers cnic is written on it. So if someone has a crc and he is applying for cnic without returning crc naturallu nadra form requirements will ask him for his fathers cnic. Using any citizens fathers cnic number ut can immediately be found whether this applicant has a pre issued crc or not.

So this explanation was so bogus and such crude lie. Just to discredit new info about his two cnics pmln used the most sold out newspaper express tribune to publish fake story.

All they are doing is to somehow discredit shahid masood

@Samlee

@Shane @Samlee did u read this post of mine on cnics yesterday ? I feel a strong media campaigning is going against him and now with asma jahangir jumping in it clearly suggests something is happeing. You will nevervsee such strong reaction in media unless something is cooking up inside.

We should not disregard shahid like this and give him chance.

 

[Samlee]

@Shane @Samlee did u read thismpost of mine on cnics yesterday ? I feel a strong media campaigning is going against him and now with asma jahangir jumoing in it clearly suggests something is happeing. You will neevr such strong reaction in media unless something is cooking up inside.

We should not disregard shahid like this and give him chance.

Dude The Moment Geo and Express News Started It,I Smelled A Rat

 

[Ali Tariq]

@Shane @Samlee did u read this post of mine on cnics yesterday ? I feel a strong media campaigning is going against him and now with asma jahangir jumping in it clearly suggests something is happeing. You will nevervsee such strong reaction in media unless something is cooking up inside.

We should not disregard shahid like this and give him chance.

Just watch Dr Shahid Masood's interview with Mansoor Ali Khan.
They are blaming him like his is the one behind kasur incidents.