Prime suspect in Zainab murder case arrested, police sources say

[El Sidd]

Sir, What is going on? Why is everyone trying to prove this guy is sole culprit? And what's the legitimacy of this JIT of choice circus? Why is it being allowed to conduct investigation when it's members are the same who overlooked these heinous crimes for so many years themselves

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[PakSword]

I don't know what is he saying..

Accounts being added and deleted.. from where is he getting this list? Is there any international forum where you can enter an identification number and get your bank accounts all over the world.. and when SBP deletes and account, the international list is synced right away!

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

There should be more and more investigations nationwide.

Am watching The Keepers right now. And I bet a lot more garbage can be dug out in Pakistan than Baltimore,MD.

No one should dismiss Shahid Masood in haste. The Supreme Court should and must investigate if there is a wider network. Even if Shahid Masood is wrong. There are definitely links to a more evil cause.

 

[Ocean]

He is just being stubborn. He made a mistake about Imran Ali accounts... He should apologise about it and move on instead of creating a diversion from other legitimate questionable actions of Punjab Government Officials including its spokesman and CM himself.

There was news about this imran having two cnics .

Now express tribune published this news to clarify cnic thing which seems like a planted article.
See
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1619009/1-zainabs-murder-holder-two-national-identity-numbers/

The report says a person when registers for crc has to give back crc when he is eligible to get cnic and he is given same identification number on cnic as the one alloted on crc. But sometimes some people do not give back crc and apply for cnic , which results in them ending up with two identification numbers. And this flaw would have been immediately detected had imran applied for a bank account, cause bank accounts verify cnic numbers whic means he ahd no bank account.

I Dont know how banks verify someones cnic number and how in such cases banks would find out he has two id numbers alloted and nadra would not have been able to find that out while issuing him original id card.

When u get crc number , your fathers cnic number is entered, when u are issued ur cnic ur fathers cnic is written on it. So if someone has a crc and he is applying for cnic without returning crc naturallu nadra form requirements will ask him for his fathers cnic. Using any citizens fathers cnic number ut can immediately be found whether this applicant has a pre issued crc or not.

So this explanation was so bogus and such crude lie. Just to discredit new info about his two cnics pmln used the most sold out newspaper express tribune to publish fake story.

All they are doing is to somehow discredit shahid masood

@Samlee

 

[Shane]

Even if Shahid Masood is wrong. There are definitely links to a more evil cause.

There are obvious holes in what Punjab Government is pushing as the nerrative that Imran Ali worked alone and police has caught the sole culprit responsible for these crimes.
Thats why i keep saying that whether DrShahid is right or wrong but the bigger picture is that more people are involved and 2015 video case is an example of Punjab Government Officials turning a blind eye to these past incidents is criminal.

The very Punjab Government officials responsible for overlooking these crimes for so many years are now conveniently part of the very JIT.

The very JIT made to investigate a crime that is actually a series of cases that they themselves are responsible for not taking immediate and appropriate actions in the past.

Negligence in not just once or twice but on so many earlier occasions that it is mind bogglingly obnoxious that this mockery in the namecof JIT is being allowed to make a fool out of us all yet again.

The very spokesman of CM Punjab is from Qusoor. Are we so gullible to believe that these cases after cases of murder and molestation were overlooked by chance???

Why did Malik Mohammad Ahmed Khan not mention these cases and lack of action in his own constituncy ever before to CM Punjab when they are literaly staring each others faces daily for so many years?

How can this guy justify his criminal lack of action and the criminal lack of action of his micro-managing everything boss and that of his loyal subordinates???

And yet we find him using his smooth talking charm to subdue his interviewers by saying that he is not justifying lack of action in the past yet doing literally just that day after day on prime time tv...

These are the circus masters doing media management and it is being done so successfully by those in power... So easily fool so many and mock our gullibility on live tv... and yet the victims legacy screams for justice against those who did nothing when they could have done so much and saved so many innocent lives - is this all mere coincidence??? Or something more than meets the eyes. You be the judge.

 

[Verve]

What a jahil nation we are! Instead of expanding the scope of investigations to rule out what's been brought forward as a clue, we are trying to bury the matter all due to illogical and rediculous biases! No wonder our crime investigators are so foking pathetic, because they are from the jahils that we are!!

And what the fok happened to the sensible and logical posters, lost your marbles in this thread or what!?

 

[Mrc]

I don't know what is he saying..

Accounts being added and deleted.. from where is he getting this list? Is there any international forum where you can enter an identification number and get your bank accounts all over the world.. and when SBP deletes and account, the international list is synced right away!

He is lying through his teeth....

 

[Shane]

He is lying through his teeth....

CM Punjab, His Spokesman who is from this very deliberately neglected city Qusoor, DG Forensics Punjab and other officials are continuously lying through their teeth day in and day out...Zainab was missing for 5 days before she was found dead - Why are they saying Imran Ali did it alone...this is actually criminal...deadly criminal....the very people who occupy the seat of power are lying ...

...and yet our media and common folks are worried about an anchor lying!!!

 

[Mrc]

CM Punjab, His Spokesman who is from this very deliberately neglected city Qusoor, DG Forensics Punjab and other officials are continuously lying through their teeth day in and day out...Zainab was missing for 5 days before she was found dead - Why are they saying Imran Ali did it alone...this is actually criminal...deadly criminal....the very people who occupy the seat of power are lying ...

...and yet our media and common folks are worried about an anchor lying!!!

So that gives him a licence to lie??

 

[Shane]

So that gives him a licence to lie??

I never defended him nor do I have any intention to now...Didn't you read my posts that he should apologise - like Ahmed noorani and Ansar Abbassi do with a shameless one liner.

Let's keep the focus on those who were and are responsible for protecting our children and yet they criminally neglected to the point of turning a blind eye to these crimes under their noses.

 

[Shane]

Let me connect some obvious dots for the supporters of sole culprit theory...

The local police officers are hand picked by who, work for who, and the thana is in who's control?

As Zainab was missing for 5 days, wasn't it responsibility of local police to first interrogate and follow the reported culprit of that very Muhalla?

Then again, police should have Matched the video profile when the cctv footage from some shop was gathered and provided by the victims family?

Even the victims uncle reported this same guy as prime suspect.

Are the officials scared that if they hold these police officers responsible then they will reveal something best left untold?

If this is not the case then why not a single action has not been taken against those who at the very least, criminally neglected to do their job according to SOP?

Instead we find that Punjab Government has rewarded those who caught an obvious, previously reported suspect who was literally identified by the victims family too.

So they find it best to declare police case closed as sole culprit is caught.

 

[PakSword]

What a jahil nation we are! Instead of expanding the scope of investigations to rule out what's been brought forward as a clue, we are trying to bury the matter all due to illogical and rediculous biases! No wonder our crime investigators are so foking pathetic, because they are from the jahils that we are!!

And what the fok happened to the sensible and logical posters, lost your marbles in this thread or what!?

No one is saying that an investigation shouldn't happen. Problem now is that Dr. Shahid is not ready to believe anyone. Courts do not conduct investigations themselves. They assign individuals from different departments in JIT for example SBP, ISI, MI. Then there will definitely be someone from FIA, IB and Police in this JIT. If SBP says that there is no account of this individual, there is no second way to find it out. Dr. Shahid says that SBP and all the banks may change the title of the accounts. This is a very serious allegation. Do you think that SBP or any bank can do that or will do that?

We have to remember that NS had put all the pressure on different departments during his disqualification case, but he couldn't delete record of any transactions. The most he could do was changing the dates on some docs.. and that too was caught.. Had he been so powerful, he would have definitely deleted record of Imran Khans inward remittances. Despite knowing that Jemima wasn't able to collect some of the record due to bank merger in UK, Citibank in Pakistan still provided detail of the transaction..

But Dr. Shahid he is true that the scale of violent child pornography is so much huge in Pakistan that SBP, all the Pakistani banks, Police, IB, ISI, MI.. all are working together for the benefit of culprits, then what's stopping him in suspecting Supreme Court to be part of this ring?

The ideal case to begin this investigation with, is Kasur Scandal which is in the trial court and criminals are threatening small children. CJ not taking sou moto on that case is in itself a crime in my opinion. Dr. Shahid and all other journalists should focus on that case more... they will definitely find much more material in that case.. Videos are there, personnel are identified, their bank account details are there.. there is just a little pressure required from media, and courts will definitely start probing proactively..

The way Dr. Shahid is confident, I still believe that he has something... but I am fearing that day when he is proven wrong, it will affect negatively to the case related to bigger scandal.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Why dont Supreme Court, ISI, MI etc merge all 3 cases and investigate them together.

No one is saying that an investigation shouldn't happen. Problem now is that Dr. Shahid is not ready to believe anyone. Courts do not conduct investigations themselves. They assign individuals from different departments in JIT for example SBP, ISI, MI. Then there will definitely be someone from FIA, IB and Police in this JIT. If SBP says that there is no account of this individual, there is no second way to find it out. Dr. Shahid says that SBP and all the banks may change the title of the accounts. This is a very serious allegation. Do you think that SBP or any bank can do that or will do that?

We have to remember that NS had put all the pressure on different departments during his disqualification case, but he couldn't delete record of any transactions. The most he could do was changing the dates on some docs.. and that too was caught.. Had he been so powerful, he would have definitely deleted record of Imran Khans inward remittances. Despite knowing that Jemima wasn't able to collect some of the record due to bank merger in UK, Citibank in Pakistan still provided detail of the transaction..

But Dr. Shahid he is true that the scale of violent child pornography is so much huge in Pakistan that SBP, all the Pakistani banks, Police, IB, ISI, MI.. all are working together for the benefit of culprits, then what's stopping him in suspecting Supreme Court to be part of this ring?

The ideal case to begin this investigation with, is Kasur Scandal which is in the trial court and criminals are threatening small children. CJ not taking sou moto on that case is in itself a crime in my opinion. Dr. Shahid and all other journalists should focus on that case more... they will definitely find much more material in that case.. Videos are there, personnel are identified, there bank account details are there.. there is just a little pressure required from media, and courts will definitely start probing proactively..

The way Dr. Shahid is confident, I still believe that he has something... but I am fearing that day when he is proven wrong, it will affect negatively to the case related to bigger scandal.

 

[PakSword]

The local police officers are hand picked by who, work for who, and the thana is in who's control?

In every province except KP, police officers are handpicked.. even IGs are handpicked by the provincial government. This doesn't mean Shahbaz hired these police officers to be part of this heinous crime. This is done to control the area.

As Zainab was missing for 5 days, wasn't it responsibility of local police to first interrogate and follow the reported culprit of that very Muhalla?

Then again, police should have Matched the video profile when the cctv footage from some shop was gathered and provided by the victims family?

Even the victims uncle reported this same guy as prime suspect.

Are the officials scared that if they hold these police officers responsible then they will reveal something best left untold?

So they find it best to declare police case closed as sole culprit is caught.

If they really wanted to hide this guy, there were two easy ways to do that:

1 - Kill that guy and bury him in Baluchistan so that no one could ever find out about him.
2 - Replace his DNA sample with someone else.

By the way, I have myself watched a TV program in which the anchor interviewed some neighbors.. and when they were asked why police released him, 3 different guys said that the whole neighborhood pressurized police to release him as they didn't suspect him because he used to read NAATS etc.. One guy said that we thought police wanted to frame this guy to save someone else.. One guy even said in a different program that victims family also asked police to focus on the real culprits rather than arresting people from the neighborhood.

I can't believe that now people are telling an entirely different story..

 

[Shane]

Why dont Supreme Court, ISI, MI etc merge all 3 cases and investigate them together.

Merge is not the term but I get what you mean and absolutely support that all three incidents must be investigated by a JIT made by SCP.

This doesn't mean Shahbaz hired these police officers to be part of this heinous crime.

Do you seriously think that that's what I mean, come on man, keep things in perspective.