Post 27th Feburary surgical strike, Israeli connections and THAAD deployment.

[scionofPakwattan]

Russia supplied the jet, go bomb russia


Military drills that occur multiple times during the year.
Not everything is about you

Yes but russia didnt allow their munitions to be used - India didnt use Russian munitions cuz they couldnt sacrifice their relations with Russia - Either Israel doesnt give a damn abt facing off Pakistan here or India doesnt care abt pushing their dear friend under the bus here

 

[DavidSling]

Yes but russia didnt allow their munitions to be used - India didnt use Russian munitions cuz they couldnt sacrifice their relations with Russia - Either Israel doesnt give a damn abt facing off Pakistan here or India doesnt care abt pushing their dear friend under the bus here

Are you joking? India used fricking russian jets and you cry about Israeli munnition?
They didn't use Russian ammunition cause they didn't want to, nothing else.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Most of the Israelies didn't even hear about Pakistan, no offense, but we don't really give a damn about your conflict with India.
You Pakistanies just need to feel like you're the center of everything while u certainly ain't

well it doesn't matter if Israel hear about us or not , but Israel Army and Military establishment does know about us and consider us a threat , so that is enough reason to doubt your intentions .
PAF pilots shooting down IAF planes in Israel-Arab war, Possible Attack on Kahutta labs etc are incidents . Israel is India Ally and as a Ally Israel does aid India even in Kargil war , so you can not deny everything ..

We Pakistanis never really think that we are the center but speaking from History we do know that if there is one Treacherous country we have to look , its Israel .

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I fail to understand your logic here, you are trying to connect dots that does not exist. First and foremost we dont have any links to Syria, and rightly so Pakistan stayed out of this conflict. We already have too much on our plate. As far as Israeli aggression towards Pakistan is concerned, if we decide to target Israel, its pretty much the end for the world and we will find the most probable reason for Fermis Paradox.

Explain to me why out of sudden THAAD is deployed in Israel at a time when the only major conflict is brewing between Pakistan and India with Pakistan clearly saying that that if things escalate, it will go regional.

Your soil is hit by Israeli weapons, your media , even English far left, is pointing towards Israeli connection. These "news" just don't come out like that. These are very sensitive matters and only released to media when there is a need for it.

As for Syria, we shouldn't care whose fighting who, all we know that region is hot, and we must score our own geopolitical goals taking advantage of the fog of war. For a commoner, there was no logic for Isreal to get involved in Pak-Indo conflict but it has. Infact those who understand the prophecies, there are more reasons for Israel to get involved just like Pakistan should around holy lands.

 

[Khan Kore]

Pakistan is their nightmare, and in nightmare it is hard to runaway. It is the past, Israel having hard time to forget. This time it won't be De Mona Nuclear site. You are betting your entire state of Israel.

 

[DavidSling]

well it doesn't matter if Israel hear about us or not , but Israel Army and Military establishment does know about us and consider us a threat , so that is enough reason to doubt your intentions .
PAF pilots shooting down IAF planes in Israel-Arab war, Possible Attack on Kahutta labs etc are incidents . Israel is India Ally and as a Ally Israel does aid India even in Kargil war , so you can not deny everything ..

We Pakistanis never really think that we are the center but speaking from History we do know that if there is one Treacherous country we have to look , its Israel .

If there's a treacherous country it's Pakistan, who contributed to our enemies for years, even before we allied with India.

Pakistan is their nightmare, and in nightmare it is hard to runaway. It is the past, Israel having hard time to forget. This time it won't be De Mona Nuclear site. You are betting you entire state of Israel.

Bring it, our thermonuclear warheads are waiting on Jericho 3 missiles in the basement

 

[scionofPakwattan]

Are you joking? India used fricking russian jets and you cry about Israeli munnition?
They didn't use Russian ammunition cause they didn't want to, nothing else.
Your obssesion with Israel is pathetic and misguided

Not obsessed with Israel at all - but im just surprised that they would let india deploy their munitions - its a stupid move because it would make a lot of important ppl insecure in Pakistan

 

[macnurv]

Explain to me why out of sudden THAAD is deployed in Israel at a time when the only major conflict is brewing between Pakistan and India with Pakistan clearly saying that that if things escalate, it will go regional.

You never know, this might be related to something in Syria. There is a lot of players in that area, I am not completely discounting the idea but it could be something completely different.

Your soil is hit by Israeli weapons, your media , even English far left, is pointing towards Israeli connection. These "news" just don't come out like that. These are very sensitive matters and only released to media when there is a need for it.

By that logic, Indian planes were brought down by Chinese Missile. I am also intrigued by the timing of the news, but the most likely channel used to communicate to Israel is MBS>Kushner>Israel. Again we are basing a lot of our opinion on conjecture.

As for Syria, we shouldn't care whose fighting who, all we know that region is hot, and we must score our own geopolitical goals taking advantage of the fog of war. For a commoner, there was no logic for Isreal to get involved in Pak-Indo conflict but it has. Infact those who understand the prophecies, there are more reasons for Israel to get involved just like Pakistan should around holy lands.

No I disagree, we are not affected by this conflict and we should keep out of it. What you are suggesting is another accusation of proliferation or some other non-sense thing. Russia wont allow that as well.

 

[Dante80]

Explain to me why out of sudden THAAD is deployed in Israel at a time when the only major conflict is brewing between Pakistan and India with Pakistan clearly saying that that if things escalate, it will go regional.

The reason is actually a lot more mundane. The first part of this deployment is an integration and inter-operation exercise for THAAD and Arrow. You can view this like Juniper Cobra, but with THAAD. This has been planned for quite some time I might add.

BTW, it will be funny when the systems can't inter-operate despite using the same radar. XD

 

[DavidSling]

The reason is actually a lot more mundane. The first part of this deployment is an integration and inter-operation exercise for THAAD and Arrow. You can view this like Juniper Cobra, but with THAAD. This has been planned for quite some time I might add.

BTW, it will be funny when the systems can't inter-operate despite using the same radar. XD

Radar is just one of many other subsystems, each written in a different code in mind, built with different logic, and have different design and operation modes.
Incoporate two different system, that weren't meant to work together to begin with is no easy task

 

[valkyr_96]

I also ate lunch at the same date, something is surely cooking up now

this has nothing to do with you guys..we are a bit spooked because the chair we sat on turned out to be stool. We are sorting out the carpenter

 

[aziqbal]

JF17 can carry long range stand off weapons

Easy meat for the PAF

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Stick to the topic and refrain from personal attacks on other members please.

And if it's not clear, calling someone an 'Armchair General' would be considered a personal attack.

Not obsessed with Israel at all - but im just surprised that they would let india deploy their munitions - its a stupid move because it would make a lot of important ppl insecure in Pakistan

Does Pakistan want restrictions on how she uses her weapons supplied by foreign countries? Of course not, so why would India accept restrictions on how she uses Israeli weapons?

Quite frankly, I doubt the Israelis expected the Indians to make such a hullabaloo about 'Israeli bombs and subsystems on IAF fighter jets', especially when all they did was bomb a bunch of trees and get their fighter jets shot down.

 

[Basel]

Are you joking? India used fricking russian jets and you cry about Israeli munnition?
They didn't use Russian ammunition cause they didn't want to, nothing else.
Your obssesion with Israel is pathetic and misguided

All those jets are upgraded with Israeli systems and people in Pakistan remember the role Israel played during Kargil conflict against Pakistan, Israel just not sent Munitions to India but it's experts too during Kargil conflict.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Something major is cooking and its not limited to Pakistan-India tussle.

After the revelations of Israel working alongside India to attack Pakistan in big way, a development which has largely gone missing is the sudden deployment of American THAAD system in Israel.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1467659/india-plotted-dangerous-attack-with-israeli-help

India plotted dangerous attack with Israeli help

Stone cold warnings

In the midst of serious diplomatic manoeuvrings under way, the spokesperson for the military was very clear about two things. Firstly, if India chooses to escalate from here, it will not be about India Pakistan anymore, it will be about the region. Secondly, India shall not be afforded any face saving at the cost of Pakistan’s integrity and sovereignty.




https://www.rt.com/news/453021-us-deploys-thaad-israel/


US deploys THAAD missile defense systems to Israel for very first time
Published time: 4 Mar, 2019 22:09



Someone is not feeling safe anymore it seems. So what happened to that fame Iron dome and Arrow ABM?


The mention of this conflict escalating into the region is clear indication that Pakistan is now looking at Israel with its strategic weapons perhaps pointing to it.

No denying now, even Pakistan's most liberal and pro west news outlets like DAWN are reporting the Israeli involvement with India against Pakistan.

I think Israel now has very successfully added itself among the targets that will be hit with Pakistani nukes in case of any major escalation. Would American THAAD will be able to stop any Pakistani retaliatory strikes, highly doubt it.

But not just at strategic level, at tactical level, Pakistan MUST get involved militarily. I don't know the current status of Syrian Airforce and technicalities involved but it will be worthwhile exploring if those vintage Syrian jets can be retrofitted with Pakistani SOWs specially REKs. Pakistani entry level SOWs got more then enough range to strike deep inside Israel. Idea should be, everytime IAF violates Syrian airspace or hit Syrian soil with its own SOWs, Syrian airforce can get airborne release the payload and make a runner without getting too close to the Israeli border. Initially, Israeli border posts can be hit as a response to Israeli attacks.


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Thaad is there not because of Pakistan. IMHO it has to do with the next move of Israel. Turkey will get hit in next move of Israel in ME.
But its just my own thought.