Possible Saudi strikes on Iraqi militias

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1175709986359533568

https://twitter.com/x/status/1175711276032561152

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I think it's more likely these are Saudi strikes as opposed to Israeli ones.

 

[500]

I think it's more likely these are Saudi strikes as opposed to Israeli ones.

Good riddance whoever does it.

 

[Alshawi1234]

The PMF is slowly being integrated and restructured has into being part of of the Iraqi armed forces but separate from the army. The purpose of is to make it more organized and under the direct control of the Iraqi government, slowly removing Iranian influence.

Any attack on the PMF will slow down this transition and give these groups a legitimate reason to refuse to be under the umbrella of the Iraqi government.

The PMF structure has been just approved yesterday. Removing all previous names and flags of Iran sponsored groups and also reorganizing the positions and locations of these groups.

The current phase includes extensive training to current PMF fighters. The PMF will eventually be a large force with plans to create an air defence system and drone/ missile capability.

In a few years from now the PMF will be well structured well organized Iraqi defence force.

Any group or state attacking it now will feel the heat later, so don’t cry or play victim when it does happen.

 

[Aramagedon]

They want to weaken/ annihilate Iraq for greater israel.

 

[Falcon29]

The PMF is slowly being integrated and restructured has into being part of of the Iraqi armed forces but separate from the army. The purpose of is to make it more organized and under the direct control of the Iraqi government, slowly removing Iranian influence.

Any attack on the PMF will slow down this transition and give these groups a legitimate reason to refuse to be under the umbrella of the Iraqi government.

The PMF structure has been just approved yesterday. Removing all previous names and flags of Iran sponsored groups and also reorganizing the positions and locations of these groups.

The current phase includes extensive training to current PMF fighters. The PMF will eventually be a large force with plans to create an air defence system and drone/ missile capability.

In a few years from now the PMF will be well structured well organized Iraqi defence force.

Any group or state attacking it now will feel the heat later, so don’t cry or play victim when it does happen.

Sorry bro but this doesn't make sense. They are trying to become like Hezbollah in Lebanon, in sense they want to integrate into government but their militias will always serve Iran. They fight for Iran in Syria and hold pictures of Iranian supreme leader everywhere in Iraq. They're willing to sacrifice Iraq for Iran. And some of them just do it for money. It's not good for your country. It's better they dissolve and join Iraqi army. Because forsure they will use Iraq as staging ground to attack Saudis in event of a Saudi-Iranian war and this is not good for your country.

They want to weaken/ annihilate Iraq for greater israel.

Go shitpost on social media and spare us your gibberish. If these are actually Saudis and not Israeli's, then PMU invited these attacks when they did a drone attack from Iraqi territory on behalf of Iran months ago.

 

[925boy]

Good riddance whoever does it.

haha...i hope they continue, because they're not achieving anything valuable. Israel and Saudis lack the military ground power to make any real difference.

 

[Falcon29]

haha...i hope they continue, because they're not achieving anything valuable. Israel and Saudis lack the military ground power to make any real difference.

Lol, didn't the Iraqi Hezbollah chief threaten the US forces that they would push them out of Iraq if one more attack occurred like 5 attacks ago?

Actually they are achieving something. Depleting ammunition storages(some say ballistic missiles, which aren't cheap) and threatening freedom to operate for these militias.

 

[925boy]

Lol, didn't the Iraqi Hezbollah chief threaten the US forces that they would push them out of Iraq if one more attack occurred like 5 attacks ago?

Actually they are achieving something. Depleting ammunition storages(some say ballistic missiles, which aren't cheap) and threatening freedom to operate for these militias.

all i'll tell you is that US and Israel control the skies, Iran controls the ground. Ground control = winner of war. Go figure.

 

[Falcon29]

all i'll tell you is that US and Israel control the skies, Iran controls the ground. Ground control = winner of war. Go figure.

Flawed analogies once again. If we go by that than 4 years ago ISIS controlled the ground and US/Coalition/Russian control of skies came to protect Assad, Iraqi militias and possibly Iran.

US provided air support for these militias and did not fight them. US does not want to control Iraq, they pulled out long ago. Neither does Israel want to or Saudis.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Sorry bro but this doesn't make sense. They are trying to become like Hezbollah in Lebanon, in sense they want to integrate into government but their militias will always serve Iran. They fight for Iran in Syria and hold pictures of Iranian supreme leader everywhere in Iraq. They're willing to sacrifice Iraq for Iran. And some of them just do it for money. It's not good for your country. It's better they dissolve and join Iraqi army. Because forsure they will use Iraq as staging ground to attack Saudis in event of a Saudi-Iranian war and this is not good for your country.



Go shitpost on social media and spare us your gibberish. If these are actually Saudis and not Israeli's, then PMU invited these attacks when they did a drone attack from Iraqi territory on behalf of Iran months ago.

You have to understand the build up of the PMF first. They’re are not a single force but a group of forces under a single umbrella. MAJORITY of the actual fighters on the ground joined to fight IS originally and now they see it as an means of providing for their families . The militias/ fighters which are refusing to integrate under central command doesn’t constitute to more than 20% of the entire PMF. This number will decrease once the commanders are slowly changed and eventually giving an option to either disband or be under the Iraqi central command. Most fighters will choose the latter because it’s the government who pays them.

There are just a few militias which insist on fighting outside iraq, mainly in Syria. I don’t believe their needed anymore as the threat to religious sites is contained and removed. Whatever other battles in Syria are an internal matter and Iraqis shouldn’t be there.

Any attacks against any group in iraq before giving them chance to integrate will only makes things worse. They will have a valid reason to refuse to be under an Iraqi command.

As for attacking US forces. It is highly unlikely because all US forces are in mixed Iraqi-US bases. Any group attacking these bases will face massive backlash both from the army and loose popular support if any Iraqi military personal is injured.

“Al ha’iri” an Shia scholar issued a fatwa for jihad against US forces from Iran a few weeks back. No one took him seriously and there’s hasn’t been a single group which cared answer his call. Instead he was mocked and just turned into a joke.


Most reports say that these attacks are done by Israeli forces/intelligence using YPG controlled territory in Syria as a base for their drone attacks. The attacks are very limited and were against extreme Iran loyalist groups only, they have not targeted any other groups or forces. They’re effectiveness is very limited and won’t change much on the ground.

However, this is going to give the PMF and Iraqi security forces as a whole to side with Turkey or Syrian forces if they were to battle against the YPG.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Maybe Pakistan can launch cruise missiles over Iran to hit terrorist positions in Iraq?

 

[Kamil_baku]

You have to understand the build up of the PMF first. They’re are not a single force but a group of forces under a single umbrella. MAJORITY of the actual fighters on the ground joined to fight IS originally and now they see it as an means of providing for their families . The militias/ fighters which are refusing to integrate under central command doesn’t constitute to more than 20% of the entire PMF. This number will decrease once the commanders are slowly changed and eventually giving an option to either disband or be under the Iraqi central command. Most fighters will choose the latter because it’s the government who pays them.

There are just a few militias which insist on fighting outside iraq, mainly in Syria. I don’t believe their needed anymore as the threat to religious sites is contained and removed. Whatever other battles in Syria are an internal matter and Iraqis shouldn’t be there.

Any attacks against any group in iraq before giving them chance to integrate will only makes things worse. They will have a valid reason to refuse to be under an Iraqi command.

As for attacking US forces. It is highly unlikely because all US forces are in mixed Iraqi-US bases. Any group attacking these bases will face massive backlash both from the army and loose popular support if any Iraqi military personal is injured.

“Al ha’iri” an Shia scholar issued a fatwa for jihad against US forces from Iran a few weeks back. No one took him seriously and there’s hasn’t been a single group which cared answer his call. Instead he was mocked and just turned into a joke.


Most reports say that these attacks are done by Israeli forces/intelligence using YPG controlled territory in Syria as a base for their drone attacks. The attacks are very limited and were against extreme Iran loyalist groups only, they have not targeted any other groups or forces. They’re effectiveness is very limited and won’t change much on the ground.

However, this is going to give the PMF and Iraqi security forces as a whole to side with Turkey or Syrian forces if they were to battle against the YPG.

good to have you here and see it from an Iragis eye

 

[Timur]

Maybe Pakistan can launch cruise missiles over Iran to hit terrorist positions in Iraq?

for what?

 

[Falcon29]

You have to understand the build up of the PMF first. They’re are not a single force but a group of forces under a single umbrella. MAJORITY of the actual fighters on the ground joined to fight IS originally and now they see it as an means of providing for their families . The militias/ fighters which are refusing to integrate under central command doesn’t constitute to more than 20% of the entire PMF. This number will decrease once the commanders are slowly changed and eventually giving an option to either disband or be under the Iraqi central command. Most fighters will choose the latter because it’s the government who pays them.

There are just a few militias which insist on fighting outside iraq, mainly in Syria. I don’t believe their needed anymore as the threat to religious sites is contained and removed. Whatever other battles in Syria are an internal matter and Iraqis shouldn’t be there.

Any attacks against any group in iraq before giving them chance to integrate will only makes things worse. They will have a valid reason to refuse to be under an Iraqi command.

Okay, from what you're saying then it depends on who is conducting the attacks. Some reports suggest the Israeli's. If that is the case, why are Israeli's targeting them? I've read that they are helping Iran smuggle weapons into Syria then to Hezbollah Lebanon. I don't see how this would give the PMU an valid reason to refuse to be under command. Iraqi armed forces can't prevent these attacks and neither can PMU. So I don't know how they will deal that.

But,if what you're saying is true and Iraq will be neutral than that is good for the region.

 

[925boy]

Flawed analogies once again.

No flaw detected yet, but your logic below has flaws...

If we go by that than 4 years ago ISIS controlled the ground

Thats because US was using ISIS to dislodge real Iranian influence on the ground. ISIS was US's ground forces then. We know how that went....

and US/Coalition/Russian control of skies came to protect Assad, Iraqi militias and possibly Iran.

US controlled skies in Iraq but 1) wasnt bombing real ISIS and was even bombing PMU who were closing in on ISIS. 2nd of all, US didnt provide air support for PMU- thats a fat lie. this probably contributed to their high death count. US didnt even hit ISIS oil business in SYria that ISIS was selling to TUrkey. if that doesnt tell you where US true support lies, you will never learn.

USAF NEVER protected Iran! and definitely not intentionally. thats just an outright lie or conspiracy theory.

US provided air support for these militias and did not fight them.

no, you meant to say :

US provided air support for these ISIS terrorists and did not fight them.

I agree! US/NATO Struck PMU a few times adn evacuated ISIS leaders a few times in Iraq when they were about to get killed by Iraqi army or/and PMU.

US does not want to control Iraq,

US wants control over anything valuable and strategic that it can control. Iraqi oil is valuable to US.

they pulled out long ago.

Lie! Then why are 5K US troops still in a base in northern Iraq?

Neither does Israel want to or Saudis.

Doesnt matter cuz they cant succeed even if they tried.