Police Brutality on Rise in US OF A

[Mugwop]

Some viewpoints are allowed to be propagated on purpose, no matter how outrageous. Sad.

Yes it's really sad

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Not everyone is familiar with police brutality in Usa

 

[VCheng]

Yes it's really sad

But then again, it is the right of the management to run their forum as they see fit, your post being a good example.

 

[maximuswarrior]

A veteran died in police custody. His body was returned to his family with some organs missing

POLICE ATE THE BRAIN
POLICE ATE THE THROAT
POLICE ATE THE HEART

Of prisoner how else you explain it is missing?

Ex Military but once you are back in USA , a petty crime of Driving under influence can lead you to your death

(CNN)Two days before he died, Everett Palmer Jr. called his brother, Dwayne, to tell him he was on his way from Delaware to New York to visit him and their sick mother. But first, he said, he wanted to resolve an outstanding DUI warrant from an incident in 2016 in Pennsylvania to make sure his license was valid for the drive to see his family.

The phone call was the last time the family would hear from the 41-year-old US Army veteran and father of two.
On April 9, 2018, two days later, the family was told that Palmer had died in police custody at the York County Prison. Fourteen months later, the Palmers say they still don't know what really happened. But they are suspicious because when Palmer's body was returned to them, his throat, heart and brain were missing.
"This entire case smacks of a cover-up," civil rights attorney Lee Merritt told CNN by phone.
Beneath the Skin: Horrific cuts cover her son's body after he's shot dead by police
The family hired Merritt to help find answers because so far, they have been unable to get them on their own, they say. Merritt says prison and county officials have not been cooperative with providing an official manner of death.
Representatives for the prison could not be reached for comment Friday.
An initial autopsy by the York County Coroner's Office stated Palmer died after an incident "following an excited state" during which he "began hitting his head against the inside of his cell door" and was restrained. The report says Palmer became agitated as a result of "methamphetamine toxicity." A probable "sickling red cell disorder" as listed as a contributing factor.
According to his family, Palmer never had any health problems leading up to his death. They also say the autopsy report of him hitting himself are completely out of character.
The York County Coroner's Office updated its autopsy results on July 28, 2018, to include a manner of death, which it listed as "undetermined." The autopsy report says details of the autopsy may be corrected as more information becomes available.
The family says Palmer did have "some history of drug use," but never meth. Prison processing reports made available to the family provided no indication that Palmer was under the influence or had any drug paraphernalia listed in his items when he arrived.
"He would have had to receive (the meth) in the jail itself. We don't believe that happened," Merritt said.
Palmer's body was returned to his family, but it was only after the family hired their own independent forensic pathologist that they discovered Palmer's body was missing three body parts.
"It's not unusual to take organs out of a body during an autopsy, especially if you believe they were subject to trauma. The highly unusual part is to misplace them," Merritt said.
For seven months, the family could not track down Palmer's brain, heart or throat. They say they were told by the York County Coroner to check with the funeral home for the body parts.
"The funeral home says they hadn't touched the body," Merritt said.
The family says they were later told by the coroner that the body parts were at an independent lab. However, the lab, Merritt says, has refused to hand over the parts, citing an ongoing investigation.
Merritt says the family believes the body parts will reveal details of how Palmer died. "But we haven't been able to get them back yet," Merritt said. "His constitutional rights are being violated."
CNN reached out to the York County District Attorney's Office for comment. Kyle King, the chief administrator and spokesman for the district attorney, told CNN by phone, "The office of the district attorney does not comment on pending or ongoing investigations."
When asked how long an investigation into a case like this typically takes, King said, "Every investigation is unique." He did not answer when asked why, more than one year after Palmer's death, there is still no official determination about his cause of death.
Multiple calls to the Pennsylvania State Police, which is listed as the investigating police agency on the autopsy, were not returned. A voicemail message left with the York County Coroner's Office also went unanswered.
Of the five children in the Palmer family, Everett Palmer Jr. was like the glue that kept the family bond strong, his brother Dwayne said. He was a "gentle giant," tall and muscular, and served as a US Army paratrooper. An avid sports fan, especially of basketball, Palmer was often found working out in the gym or helping others achieve their goals as a personal trainer.

Palmer also enjoyed being a DJ and had a very "eclectic taste in music," preferring heavy metal, according to his brother, Dwayne. He may have looked imposing, his brother says, but he loved to smile.
"He joked around a lot. He was the life of the family," Dwayne Palmer said. "He wasn't a perfect person, but certainly not somebody that's a rabble-rouser, fighting, starting trouble or anything like that. He was a loving person."
Speaking from his home in New York, Dwayne says the family just wants to know what happened. He says the information they have been given so far is scant.
"We don't believe anything (officials) are telling us at this point," he said. "It's a tremendous loss for our family. We are devastated."
According to the autopsy report, on the morning of his death, Everett Palmer Jr. was taken to a medical clinic where he was noted to be unresponsive. He was transferred to York Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 5:46 a.m.
"If he was being processed for something that he did wrong in terms of the DUI -- he should be held accountable for that -- but it shouldn't be a death sentence, certainly inside of a jail," his brother added. "We know that there are good people in that prison system. We appeal to them to come forward and share what they know."
The Palmer family has put in a Freedom of Information Act request for any video recordings from the York County Prison while Palmer was in their custody.
"It's been over a year and we want some answers. He was delivered back to us without organs. We want closure," Palmer said. "If something criminal happened, and I believe something criminal did happen, we want the people that was involved in that to be held accountable."

'Murica is its own biggest enemy.

 

[Wow]

Just another jerk-off thread so these guys can escape the shitty conditions they are in.

oh i didn't realize that we were only allowed to post bad stuff in other countries in this forum

concentration camps in china
Poverty in India
Terrorism in Pakistan
All reasonable topics for discussion

police brutality in the US HURR DURR jerk off thread

 

[gambit]

oh i didn't realize that we were only allowed to post bad stuff in other countries in this forum

concentration camps in china
Poverty in India
Terrorism in Pakistan
All reasonable topics for discussion

police brutality in the US HURR DURR jerk off thread

You can post the bad stuff about US, but considering the list of worse stuff in other countries you listed, the bad stuff in the US is indeed jerk-off material. You pretty much made my point for me.

 

[Nan Yang]

Yeah, why are people still died trying to get to this police state.



You never seen black people with guns??? Never seen the news of black on black crime all the time with guns?

That black kid in the picture attacked the officers who were arresting his father. They let the boy go afterwards when he calmed down.

Look what 12-13 year old kids can do to adults that are 30-40.

How about a petite 5foot1in Navajo Mother.

Navajo woman's death at hands of Winslow officer sparks outcry

A Winslow police officer's fatal shooting of a woman suspected of shoplifting a case of beer has sparked outrage in Arizona and elsewhere.

Members of the Navajo Nation, whose reservation borders Winslow, say 27-year-old Loreal Tsingine suffered discrimination and excessive force and are demanding that the officer's name be released.

Winslow police say Tsingine had brandished a pair of scissors threateningly at the officer before she was shot five times on Sunday.

The altercation took place a couple of blocks away from a convenience store where a clerk had reported a theft, said Lt. Jim Sepi, a spokesman for the Winslow Police Department.

The officer approached Tsingine, who fit the clerk's suspect description, according to police: a Native American woman wearing gray sweatpants and a white top.

When the officer attempted to take Tsingine into custody, police say she fought back, presenting the scissors. The officer felt a substantial threat, Sepi said, and shot Tsingine five times.

Winslow Police Chief Stephen Garnett has asked the Arizona Department of Public Safety to conduct an investigation into the shooting.

DPS declined to comment on Tsingine’s actions, words or demeanor, until the case is investigated further.

A community saddened, concerned
Navajos and others have taken to social media to express their grief and anger in the shooting, many using the hashtag #JusticeforLoreal.

Cutcha Risling Baldy@cutchabaldy
When we critique law enforcement & systemic violence it's b/c we all deserve more. More than shots fired and lost lives. #JusticeForLoreal


Andrew Curley, a member of Red Nation, a coalition of Native American and non-Native American activists, said an organic movement has formed to challenge what he called the police violence against Tsingine.

"Loreal is a victim of discrimination, and we want justice," Curley said. "We can all relate to this case because we have all been racially profiled by law enforcement. While we are saddened at (Loreal's) death, we're not surprised because we know that this is a systemic issue."

Curley said the group supported the independent investigation into the shooting and has asked the Navajo Nation to take a more active role in this case.

In a statement, Navajo Nation President Russell Begaye said: “We hear about these types of shootings happening across the country. If there is no legitimate justification for taking Tsingine’s life, then the Navajo Nation wants the fullest extent of the law to be taken in serving justice.”

Vice President Jonathan Nez posted the following statement on Facebook: "The Navajo Nation sends our condolences to her family during this tragedy. Significant numbers of Navajo citizens have expressed public outcry over this violence. We will continue to investigate."

Saturday vigil scheduled

Fans on Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2016, were leaving flowers, hand-written notes and candles at the corner statue in Winslow to celebrate the life of Eagles band member Glenn Frey, who died Monday, Jan. 18. (Photo: Tom McCauley/AP)


A vigil for Tsingine has been scheduled for 3 p.m. Saturday outside Winslow police headquarters, 708 W. Third St.

Organizers are demanding that the name of the officer involved in the shooting be released and that their concerns on police brutality against Native Americans be taken seriously.

"How many of us have drawn suspicion and have been unfairly harassed by the Flagstaff Police, Winslow Police or the state's highway patrol?" Curley said. "This could have been any of of us. We grieve the loss of a member of our community."

Hmm..Police State eh?

You should read Orwell as he popularized the term “Police state” in his books and China 70+ years later has pretty much implemented every example he put forward in his books back in the 1940’s. His books must be on the required reading list of the Chinese leadership.

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Police State

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state#History_of_usage


The People's Republic of China is the biggest and most recognized police state, having a massive surveillance system, infamous censorship, no freedom of speech, a one-party system, and the world's first Social Credit System. They are also known for human rights abuses, such as the Maoist era and the Xinjiang re-education camps.

Grasping at straws.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

How about a petite 5foot1in Navajo Mother.

Navajo woman's death at hands of Winslow officer sparks outcry

She already had a lengthy arrest record...including one involving a gun. In fact at the time of the shooting she had a warrant out for her arrest. She wasn't going to go back to jail without a fight.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Human Right violations need to be discussed in open and transparent manner no need to hide it under the carpet

 

[zectech]

Amerika the violent and dangerous place:

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Amerika the violent and dangerous place:

At least 15 people didn't die

 

[Mugwop]

But then again, it is the right of the management to run their forum as they see fit, your post being a good example.

Yes I agree

 

[Wow]

You can post the bad stuff about US, but considering the list of worse stuff in other countries you listed, the bad stuff in the US is indeed jerk-off material. You pretty much made my point for me.

"worst stuff" "whataboutism" all these arguments apply when discussing problems in the US

 

[gambit]

"worst stuff" "whataboutism" all these arguments apply when discussing problems in the US

Everyone applies them to their own countries, buddy.

The point of this thread is not about actually discussing the problem of American police 'brutality', if there is such a thing to start. To be 'brutal' is at least implied to have a violent trait. So let us take a look at the police and law enforcement in general, shall we?

Can you show me a single police force anywhere in the world where violence is NOT a component of its many traits?

 

[Desert Fox]

Just another jerk-off thread so these guys can escape the shitty conditions they are in.

if you deal with some of the 12-13 year olds you will be begging for the cops to protect your ***. If you do not believe me you can ask Pakistani Americans

back to the topic: In USA there are laws for all of us to be followed. A 12 year old (or anyone for that matter) who disobeys a directive from a cop is likely to be in trouble. Cops who violate the law get in trouble sometimes. there is racism in police ranks. Cops are part and parcel of American society.

at the end of the day it boils down to this: Are you willing to trust your family with cops ? Most of us are willing to (that includes a majority of African Americans). I left my four year old with a police officer for 15 minutes as I went to get gasoline for a car out of gas. My four year old was cool with the police officer

These kids sitting in Pakistan talking trash about American police, yet American police is far less likely to be corrupt and rishwat khor (bribe takers) compared to Pakistani police, or police from any south Asian country for that matter.

Also, please Pakistanis stop shedding fake crocodile tears for American blacks here when you treat Afghan refugees no differently to what you accuse Americans of, while ironically also trying to migrate to America.

Thirdly, please stop worrying about alleged injustices in a country (America) where people are still more likely to get justice compared to Pakistan where only the rich get justice.

If an American black had to choose a country to live in between America and Pakistan, he will choose America hands down, even most Pakistanis would since so many want to migrate there. So please get off your moral high horse, you look like hypocrites.

Can you show me a single police force anywhere in the world where violence is NOT a component of its many traits?

In fact you might not even have to go that far away to give him an example.

In Pakistan the police is so corrupt and defunct in some places that rangers have to be called in and they use deadly force against, what do you know 13-15 year old boys with plastic guns

@AZADPAKISTAN2009