Let's first, once and for all, decide who "my people" are. You can't tag me with whatever position you have an attack against and then proceed to "defeating" me. It's textbook strawman-ing.
To clarify, I am not a PMLN supporter, I am not a PPP supporter, I am not a PTI supporter, I am not an establishment supporter, I am not a military or their rule supporter. In fact, I believe, being a "supporter" of any political party or ruling entity is idiotic and self-harming. I also do not belong to any political circle and/or any military circle. For all things Pakistan, I also do not belong to any sect, religion, cast, or creed. So, I'd prefer if my arguments are answered instead of some supposed position that I definitely do not hold.
That said,
Incorrect. They were both blindly voted in to oppose the "greater evil". PPP was actually formed to oppose the military. PMLN against the PPP. Both of them were supported by the establishment in their rise, just like PTI was.
This is why one needs to go beyond personal fantasies to actually understand the truth.
Cent percent. No doubt about it. No matter how superior the soldier acts, he is no different than the civilian.
What else would you expect from the military? How can a soldier ever govern competently? It's impossible.
PS: Already clarified the "you people" part.
Not ISI's job. Nor could they have done anything about it.
Again not "my" favored men.
The General's used them to establish and prolong their own rule. Just like IK did. Both are self serving snakes, which is in fact the entire point of my argument.
Nope. 'You' as in
'you people, who purposefully act blind to your favorite politician's/ruler's corruption and treason, be it civilian or military, against the country and then have the audacity to so vociferously defend him/her against all reason and then also attack anyone who exercises their God given and constitutional right to criticize him/her'.
Please keep your arguments coherent. You can't claim "
for another 5 years with military having fights with the PPP/PMLN government" and "They are your 'natural' allies" in the same discussion.
Regardless, IK was brought in power by the same players who brought Bhutto and Sharif.
This entire argument makes no sense. IK talks trash about PMLQ and MQM for years. However, as soon as it is in
his interest to ally with them,
he does. I criticize him for it. You criticize me for criticizing him. You defend and excuse his decision by claiming that I "managed to influence" him into the coalition. So your messiah goes against his years long self-aggrandizing rhetoric and clearly shows that he is a hypocrite and self-serving politician, I criticize him for it, you defend him for it, and still it is somehow my fault that he did it and not his? All of this if I support or am a part of the military, which, as explained, I am not.
Like I said, be it PTI supporters, PMLN supporters, PPP supporters, MQM supporters, Military supporters, or any other party's supporters, you are all the exact same; shamelessly serving and defending your favorite political overlords against your own detriment. None of you give a damn about the country.
I didn't but what has IK done against them? Joined forces with them?
I didn't but what has Imran Khan done about it?
Again, I didn't. But what has IK done about it?
Impressively emotional, but still useless. A) Because "straw man"; I did not do it and B) because it doesn't absolve IK for what he is and is not doing.
Huh...? How is that statement related to anything in the discussion? Or that it makes any sense at all? Oh wait, more straw man.
Alright, I will. Even though I had nothing to do with them and never supported them. Still, deal. Will you for PTI's?
Lol, no. You brought them in, all by yourself, to oppose arguments which had nothing to do with them, in hopes of diverting attention from the very obvious lies and corruption of your favorite messiah.