PM says US pressuring Pakistan to recognise Israel: report

[jamahir]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1328630061835177984

I am not in a position to guide Pak government's policies but it is my belief that the Palestine issue, same as the Kashmir issue, needs to be solved politically and the Pak government can take a leadership position in this topic.

Muslim-majority countries cannot just wish away Israel and Israel cannot perpetually involve half the world in protecting Israel because, tragic and long-standing though the issue is, there are also other pressing issues in the world like hunger and homelessness.

Pakistan government should press for the only two possible solutions :

1. Two State Solution, with the Palestinian territories being either from the 1947 UNO plan or from the 1967 border status. Pic here.

2. One State Solution which was the Libyan solution and called for a union of Israel and Palestine and to be governed democratically.

so we are still fighting for the rights of Arabs while the Arabs themselves our opening up for Israel.

Yes, some of the Arab countries have realized that they cannot wish away Israel.

Also, the Palestine issue is not just an Arab issue or a mainly Muslim issue ( though there are Christians in Palestine ), the issue is also a human issue same like the Korea issue, the current Western embargo on Venezuela and other such issues in the world.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

so we are still fighting for the rights of Arabs while the Arabs themselves our opening up for Israel.

i am dam sure if Palestinians would be given a chance they would prefer Israel over Pakistan if things are settled.
IMHO i think we can push Israel harder for peace with Arabs had we have diplomatic and friendly relations with them.

Put it this way; If we were to recognise Israel, what would we have to get out of it to make it worthwhile? I dont think a measly few billion in trade or the ability to "push them for talks" is even remotely worth the time or effort.

For me it would take the Americans forgiving our external debt to them, and using their pressure to force India into conceding IOK in order to justify selling out the Palestinians. Considering neither of those things are likely to happen then there is nothing further to be discussed...

 

[Clutch]

the pressure wont work...

Imran Khan is afraid of Allah only.

That is why the corrupt in Pakistan hate him. He reminds them of their weaknesses.

so we are still fighting for the rights of Arabs while the Arabs themselves our opening up for Israel.

i am dam sure if Palestinians would be given a chance they would prefer Israel over Pakistan if things are settled.
IMHO i think we can push Israel harder for peace with Arabs had we have diplomatic and friendly relations with them.

Wrong... We are fighting for the Rights of Muslims for the sake of Allah.

 

[Nasr]

Magar Pakistani abhi bhi arabs ke balls chate gayein ....

Arabs have sold their own brothers... What makes you think they care for ajmi non arab muslims who they consider nothing more than slaves.....

The Arab leaderships you speak of, are Najdi scum. Hejaz has not been in power in Jazeerat-ul-Arab since the 1920s. Pakistanis ought to learn to make the distinction between the two. The ones who sit in power since the 1920s, were installed and groomed by zionist-britain. Both zionist states of britain and france carved up the Middle East between themselves and installed puppet regimes designed to stifle and kill any real leadership that could have ever emerged there.

As for recognizing that zionist state of israel. The damn thing has NOTHING to do with what the Najdi-Scum. The creation of the state of israel is identified in Islam as a state which would be the opposite/evil of the Holy State of Israeel that Hazrat Suleimaan Alaihi Salam ruled.

So if you proclaim to be Muslim, and you really are a True Muslim, then they could threaten, pressure or do whatever they want, YOU ... a Muslim State, shall NOT deter from your faith in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. No matter the cost, no matter the hardship, no matter the danger .... A Muslim only fears Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah.

Pakistan was created on the basis of Islam. The day Pakistan recognizes the illegal and illegitimate state of israel. That day, Pakistan has betrayed Islam and it's demise will be guaranteed.

Those supposed Pakistanis, who advocate the recognition of the illegal state of israel, are woefully ignorant or willful actors of deceit. Either way, Pakistanis have a duty unto themselves, to stand firm and fight to ensure that Pakistan does NOT ever recognize that zionist b@$tard state of israel.

 

[Awan68]

This world is a game played between different civiliazations, Allah is the umpire, sometimes we get too lost in the game and forget the umpire, whatever economic benefits are offered in return to accept israel are going to be detremental in the long run cause we will turn the umpire against us, like the Holy Prophet(pbuh) said place the sun in one hand and the moon in the other, i will never deny the one Allah, it is same with israel, it is not about the Palestinian people, it is about Al Aqsa, it has always been about Al Aqsa, we will never compromise on Al Aqsa.

 

[mudas777]

Just answer the simple question.

The stance touted by PM is not the same as Jinnah then why is everyone masking it as such?

Do you think people will fall for these cheap tricks?

Bro time have moved on from Jinnah era but principle remains the same. Jinnah was not accepting the state of Israel existence at all full stop. However after 1967 occupation majority of Muslims countries under the current climate willing to compromise as long as the state of evil goes back to pre1967 occupation and let Palestinians to give a breathing space and let them live in peace and its not too much to ask.
Well regarding cheap tricks you are right in a way but IK have to have some excuse to whittle himself out of when pushed against the wall and put in a corner and made to sit on the naughty chair. When your country is taken to dry cleaners by some one and now you have to support your self to survive on the borrowed money your choices to manoeuvre are limited. Imagine yourself sitting in front of a bank manager when you have got no where to turn to how you will react same did IK i think to play with time and hope things can turn around in the future.

 

[El Sidd]

Bro time have moved on from Jinnah era but principle remains the same. Jinnah was not accepting the state of Israel existence at all full stop. However after 1967 occupation majority of Muslims countries under the current climate willing to compromise as long as the state of evil goes back to pre1967 occupation and let Palestinians to give a breathing space and let them live in peace and its not too much to ask.
Well regarding cheap tricks you are right in a way but IK have to have some excuse to whittle himself out of when pushed against the wall and put in a corner and made to sit on the naughty chair. When your country is taken to dry cleaners by some one and now you have to support your self to survive on the borrowed money your choices to manoeuvre are limited. Imagine yourself sitting in front of a bank manager when you have got no where to turn to how you will react same did IK i think to play with time and hope things can turn around in the future.

Israel cannot coexist peacefully and Pakistan has no interest in investing in any short term venture that risks her fundamental principle stance.

In essence nothing changed in 1967 and hence it would be a betrayal to Jinnah if modern demagogues decide to part ways with his understanding of politics.

These statements can only be taken seriously if they make it clear as to what and how was or is being pressured.

Prime Minister should not be discussing these irrelevant things and look towards more urgent issues facing the country.

 

[Nasr]

Pakistan will recognize Israel once both countries border each other.

Before that there is no political advantage of recognizing an obscure country in the middle east hell hole running out of water.

If you're waiting for israel to agree to a two state solution, then you can wait till the end of time, cuz that ain't ever going to happen.

The illegal, illegitimate zionist state of israel will do these things:

1. Occupy all of West Bank

2. Make the entire city of Jerusalem as the Capital of israel.

3. Demolish or sabotage the structural integrity of Masjid Al-Aqsa and Qubrat-ul-Sakhrah.

4. Build the Temple Mount in the place of Masjid Al-Aqsa and Qubrat-ul-Sakhrah.

5. Extend israel's influence and power from the River Nile to the River Euphrates.

This is their list of objectives and in order to achieve them, the zionists and their slave states (america, britain, france, canada, germany, australia and netherlands) have imposed war on those Muslim States that can retaliate against israel when it demolishes Masjid Al-Aqsa. Which is why Iraq is destroyed, Syria is in ruins, Libya is reduced to rubble, Yemen has been battered, Pakistan has been attacked (covertly through subversive tactics) and Iran.

Any Muslim State, not attacked is either sold out to the zionists. Like saudi regime for Jazeerat-ul-Arab, emirati, sudani, bahraini, egyptian, turkish or azerbaijani, who have officially recognized the state of israel. Or have tacitly taken a back seat by turning a blind toward the brutality of israel on Palestinians.

 

[mudas777]

Israel cannot coexist peacefully and Pakistan has no interest in investing in any short term venture that risks her fundamental principle stance.

In essence nothing changed in 1967 and hence it would be a betrayal to Jinnah if modern demagogues decide to part ways with his understanding of politics.

These statements can only be taken seriously if they make it clear as to what and how was or is being pressured.

Prime Minister should not be discussing these irrelevant things and look towards more urgent issues facing the country.

I really don't know what's going on all of a sudden and all over the media. He should have given one interview or statement and put to rest all the discussions and then avoided on all costs to repeat the same things. Obviously our reporters are funded by foreign governments and they keep on asking the same questions and he keeps on going about it. Economy, jobs and education should be the more important things for the government.

 

[El Sidd]

If you're waiting for israel to agree to a two state solution, then you can wait till the end of time, cuz that ain't ever going to happen.

The illegal, illegitimate zionist state of israel will do these things:

1. Occupy all of West Bank

2. Make the entire city of Jerusalem as the Capital of israel.

3. Demolish or sabotage the structural integrity of Masjid Al-Aqsa and Qubrat-ul-Sakhrah.

4. Build the Temple Mount in the place of Masjid Al-Aqsa and Qubrat-ul-Sakhrah.

5. Extend israel's influence and power from the River Nile to the River Euphrates.

This is their list of objectives and in order to achieve them, the zionists and their slave states (america, britain, france, canada, germany, australia and netherlands) have imposed war on those Muslim States that can retaliate against israel when it demolishes Masjid Al-Aqsa. Which is why Iraq is destroyed, Syria is in ruins, Libya is reduced to rubble, Yemen has been battered, Pakistan has been attacked (covertly through subversive tactics) and Iran.

Any Muslim State, not attacked is either sold out to the zionists. Like saudi regime for Jazeerat-ul-Arab, emirati, sudani, bahraini, egyptian, turkish or azerbaijani, who have officially recognized the state of israel. Or have tacitly taken a back seat by turning a blind toward the brutality of israel on Palestinians.

The State of Israel is the same in 67 as it were in 48.

Its foundations lie in usurping land and history by demographic changes forced upon.

It is highly ill advised for anyone to even think of changing the Pakistani stance by mere percentile.

I really don't know what's going on all of a sudden and all over the media. He should have given one interview or statement and put to rest all the discussions and then avoided on all costs to repeat the same things. Obviously our reporters are funded by foreign governments and they keep on asking the same questions and he keeps on going about it. Economy, jobs and education should be the more important things for the government.

He likes to talk and a lot so anyone with a slightly higher IQ than him can get him to say anything required.

State should have a mechanism that once these individuals become larger than life, they should read from the chit like good ol times.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Many of you guys are being too emotional. On the ground situation really isn't like S. Asia. Reality is that the Palestinians are better off integrating with Israel. Even the Arab states are acknowledging this. If Palestinian rights are guaranteed, and terms are good.....we should recognize Israel.

Facepalm.

Brother... go meet with and speak with some Palestinians.

I really don't know what's going on all of a sudden and all over the media. He should have given one interview or statement and put to rest all the discussions and then avoided on all costs to repeat the same things. Obviously our reporters are funded by foreign governments and they keep on asking the same questions and he keeps on going about it. Economy, jobs and education should be the more important things for the government.

Imran R Khan is not an agent, he did the right thing and asked the right questions.

It is Dawn and such who are trying to create problems.

Fact is that we all know America's position, but why embarrass PM Imran Khan about it and why now?

 

[jamal18]

the pressure wont work...

Imran Khan is afraid of Allah only.

The pressure will increase, financial pressure. If necessary, they will support terrorism in Pakistan. President Assad was told to recognise Israel, and the current civil war is a result of his refusal.

 

[mudas777]

Facepalm.

Brother... go meet with and speak with some Palestinians.



Imran R Khan is not an agent, he did the right thing and asked the right questions.

It is Dawn and such who are trying to create problems.

Fact is that we all know America's position, but why embarrass PM Imran Khan about it and why now?

Trump son in law is hell bend on forcing as many countries to recognise Israel as he is of Jewish faith too taking advantage of trump basically. He was behind the scenes very active that's why he showed up with the Israeli delegation in UAE etc.

Dawn is just doing its job as paid by their US masters wishes and commands.

 

[Nasr]

The State of Israel is the same in 67 as it were in 48.

That, my dear brother, is incorrect;

Its foundations lie in usurping land and history by demographic changes forced upon.

israel's foundation, is based on the argument by the zionist movement that "God gave us (Israelis) this land (The Holy Land)." The claim is based on the "Covenant" between God and Prophet Abraham (Alaihi Salam), in which God commands Prophet Abraham (Alaihi Salam) to go the land of "Milk & Honey" i.e the Holy Land, because of the sacrifices and tribulations Prophet Abraham (Alaihi Salam) endured proliferating the message of God.

What they (zionist Israelis) don't want to tell the world is that, the Covenant excludes those of Prophet Abraham's (Alaihi Salam) progeny (descendants), who do not transgress against God. And this is where the zionist do their best to attack you (Oh Muslims). Because Muslims have been given the Holy Qur'an, which outright declares the wickedness of the Jews. Who supported enmass the murders of Prophets of God, committed by the Rabbis and King herod in power at the time.

So when the zionist claim the Holy Land is theirs, as per the Covenant of God to Prophet Abraham (Alaihi Salam). Put it simple, their claim is a bogus one, a nasty lie.

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This is where I ask those who claim to be Muslim, are identifying themselves as Pakistanis and advocating the recognition of israel by Pakistan .... what part of the solar system do you reside in? have you completely lost your ability to use your God given brain? what sort of pathetic argument is where you cite arab, turk, egyptian, jordanian, emirati, bahraini and sudani countries' leaderships' recognizing the illegal state of israel ... so if they can do it, why not Pakistan.

I can tell you one thing, you who advocate Pakistan to recognize israel, are NOT faithful to Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah and are most certainly an enemy of Islam, not part of the Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

the pressure wont work...

Imran Khan is afraid of Allah only.

ahahahahhaa

that guy violated Islamic rules his entire lifetime, do yourself a favor and don't build up an image of this guy being different from reality. He's just a cricket player in the end who built up charisma, not the legend in religion or science you guys made him to be.