PM Narendra Modi's plan to visit Israel is just dangerous for India's foreign policy

[haman10]

Long live Indo-Iranian ties

yep doctor , yep .

 

[SrNair]

This wont be a political visit.Middle East politics is none of our business.
AFAIK this visit is mainly concentrated on business and arms development.

KSA and entire GCC ,Iran and Israel all of them are important to us.We have cultural and trade relations with all of them .
And we will increase that in future.

 

[VeeraBahadur]

Could n't India develop the tech by itself? I expect more of India...

Yes we also expect our scientists to develope such systems in house and they would have done it too but you know we were loosing time. Our most of the projects never meet deadlines.

 

[SrNair]

India is a very important country and one who ignores them lose a lot in long term... but politics!! ah... politics!

Iran won't have any problems with India having relation with Israel as far as it is not hostile to Iranian security.... They are acting based on national interests and it is what all nations do...

I personally think while all Arab and Turk countries of Middle east want to be a friend of Israel and they showed it many times, it is not in Iranian interests to disagree with other nations like India to be a part of that Israel friendship campaign...

The Middle East Arab countries are somehow very delicate and sweet hearts... they can not take short term hardship for a bigger long term cause... This is why all of them tend to choose comfort than giving back the rights of one Arab nation (Palestine)... Iran now is the only important country that still side Palestinians.... Although Iranian stance toward Palestine case is not going to stay the same... Iran announced officially many times that whatever Palestinians themselves choose in a referendum, Iran will respect it... This means Iran does not use Palestine-Israeli conflict as a card for its own interests.... Iran is ready to leave the issue as soon as Palestinians themselves chose to do so... I won't deny Iranian gains & loss over Palestinian cause though....

There is an official policy in Iran that says: Iran MUST help the sides that are weaker and are deprived of their rights... Although I guess this policy can have exceptions when Iranian interests say so...

Iranian leaders are sane and smart people.. they know they can't make all the world in their side.. They are ok with any relations of ISrael as far as it is not directly against Iran's national security...

India has any rights to do whatever she finds good for their interests... Even Russia and China has relations with ISrael... All Iran is doing is to control their relationship developments so it won't turn against Iranian security...

Arabs got defeated many times by the tiny Israel and when Iran joined them to finish the problem, they started to back away and leave Iran alone in this mostly Arabic than Islamic cause... I laugh of Arab leaders promoting Arab Nationalism everyday while they sold their piece of heart Palestine and its sacred Beit Al Maghdas to Israelis and now they are thinking about befriending and allying with Israel!! The more funny thing is that now when you see their official TVs they openly criticize Iran of helping Palestinians and ask Iran to stop interfering in Arab's causes!!!

Arab countries policy is like kids... because they are sectarian and find Iran helping shia Iraqis, instead of separating this from their Israel-Palestine problem that Iran is helping them there, they choose to say ok " now that Iran is helping Hizbullah and Hizbullah is against ISraeli now we become Israeli friends to take revenge from Iran!!" This is more of a kid policy than a mature one that separates cases from each other... They are not smart enough to use Iranian stance against Israel and combine their power so they can help their own Arab Palestinians

I know by experience that still the majority of Arab people are with Iranian stance toward Palestine but their leaders acting against their nation's wills and this is because they are not independent in their decisions and obviously not even partially democratic... they just read what US and ISrael wrote for them....

Long Live Indian People... and Pakistanis too

We still supports Palestine.
But like you said every nation has her own interest.
Our relation with Middle East is just based on trade relations and cultural exchanges.

We dont have any role in tge politics in the Middle East.

Each nations in the ME are very important to us .



Long live Indo-Iranian relation.

 

[Brickwall]

Some of indians thinking that visiting israel shows modi anti-minority stance, but can i ask this wannabe arabs, where was arabs and palestine when kargil war happened, did they ever condemned.

In this world no country is friend or foe , its all just interest,anyway, can i ask this gentleman what should trigger happy Israel do when suicidal terrorist kills women and children.

Its about time, Indian PM visit Israel we need to treat it as equal partner and Friend.Anyways Arabs are not position to object their hands are as blood stained as Israels

 

[SrNair]

Could n't India develop the tech by itself? I expect more of India...

Well we have some weak points in our electronics development.We have world class marine electronics but lagging in some avionics and space techs.And it was happened around eight years ago.At that time infiltration and terrorist attacks was taking a good toll.

 

[scythian500]

Some of indians thinking that visiting israel shows modi anti-minority stance, but can i ask this wannabe arabs, where was arabs and palestine when kargil war happened, did they ever condemned.

In this world no country is friend or foe , its all just interest,anyway, can i ask this gentleman what should trigger happy Israel do when suicidal terrorist kills women and children.

Its about time, Indian PM visit Israel we need to treat it as equal partner and Friend.Anyways Arabs are not position to object their hands are as blood stained as Israels

stay fair my friend... Arabs kill innocent Israelis as well but...a BIG but..:

How started to kill other side?
Do Palestinians always start it or just responding?
If you check wikipedia pages of their wars and conflicts.. you see clearly that Israelis kill 15 innocent children and women while Palestinians killed 1 or 2... This is like they kill 10 of your children and women and then when you respond killing only 1 civilian of your foe, then it is all your fault and you are a terrorist!!
It is like During QAZA Israeli raids of civilians that killed over 2 or 3000 innocent civilians and yet netanyahu goes to UN answering in response to a question about why they kill civilians:

"world should take our stance as Palestinian terrorists are firing rockets and killing few of our civilians. We have the right to defend ourselves and we are just defending ourselves!!" funny thing is that this speech was after israel killed thousands of civilians in response to kidnapping of 3 Israelis!!

Be fair... although, in my personal opinion, I believe no one should attack civilian and innocent people in any war... if you are man enough come to battle field and fight with soldiers...don't show your savage terrorism by killing helpless civilians"

Well we have some weak points in our electronics development.We have world class marine electronics but lagging in some avionics and space techs.And it was happened around eight years ago.At that time infiltration and terrorist attacks was taking a good toll.

India could get the tech easily through its millions of indians living and working in western countries... although i think, when you can make much more advanced projects then you can build a SAR radar too... although sometime countries can not wait that long for a local development... Iran has no choice but to build everything locally due to sanctions by enemies and friends... this may delay some sensitive techs to be operational but we have no choice... india has choice and then it is all OK

 

[Alphacharlie]

What has Palestine Given to us....Trade is Peanuts, They have No Global Standing.

Palestine has always supported Anti India Legislations at OIC.

Palestine support was part of Farse to show how great Congress Party Cared for Muslim umma!!

Go Modi to Israel the Tiny country who supported us in 65,71,99 and how many more times..

 

[CMYX4BJ]

These seculars are funny

 

[SrNair]

stay fair my friend... Arabs kill innocent Israelis as well but...a BIG but..:

How started to kill other side?
Do Palestinians always start it or just responding?
If you check wikipedia pages of their wars and conflicts.. you see clearly that Israelis kill 15 innocent children and women while Palestinians killed 1 or 2... This is like they kill 10 of your children and women and then when you respond killing only 1 civilian of your foe, then it is all your fault and you are a terrorist!!
It is like During QAZA Israeli raids of civilians that killed over 2 or 3000 innocent civilians and yet netanyahu goes to UN answering in response to a question about why they kill civilians:

"world should take our stance as Palestinian terrorists are firing rockets and killing few of our civilians. We have the right to defend ourselves and we are just defending ourselves!!" funny thing is that this speech was after israel killed thousands of civilians in response to kidnapping of 3 Israelis!!

Be fair... although, in my personal opinion, I believe no one should attack civilian and innocent people in any war... if you are man enough come to battle field and fight with soldiers...don't show your savage terrorism by killing helpless civilians"


India could get the tech easily through its millions of indians living and working in western countries... although i think, when you can make much more advanced projects then you can build a SAR radar too... although sometime countries can not wait that long for a local development... Iran has no choice but to build everything locally due to sanctions by enemies and friends... this may delay some sensitive techs to be operational but we have no choice... india has choice and then it is all OK

You are right.That is also a reason.
And we experienced a lot of brain drain around a one decade agur top brains from IIT or IIM will ended up in West but dont intrested in return.
But due to our economic success reverse brain drain is happening.

Perhaps things will clear in future.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

The fact Modi is the first PM to visit the country is beyond dumb, considering the relations between the countries.

He most go, and who ever for whatever reason feel some type of way about it, can get over it.

 

[jamahir]

why the laugh??

 

[ayesha.a]

huh ? conspiracy theory bro ?

I didn't mean it as a criticism. That's what all countries do, act in their self interest - even if that means co-operating with enemies to defeat a more pressing threat.

As just one example, Israel's "Operation Opera" followed just a few months after Iran's "Operation Scorched Sword", which had the same objective, but was unsuccesful. Plenty of reading material is available to indicate that Iran gave Israel a lot of intel they had collected, including aerial reconnaisance photos, flight plans etc. Iran could only mildly damage the Iraqi nuclear reactor, but Israel later destroyed it with Iranian input.

There is nothing to be ashamed of in that - Iran and Iraq were at war with each other, Iraq had the backing of the USA, and Iraq was openly pursuing nuclear weapons - that was a much bigger and more immediate threat to Iran than Israel was. That reactor had to be destroyed, there was no other option. It was either that, or the annihilation of Iran by nukes later in the war. And since Israel was also trying to stop Iraq from getting nukes, obviously the smart thing to do was to co-operate with them. Besides, it was Israel that attracted worldwide condemnation, even in the USA, for that act.

As I said, plenty of people have written about this, both Iranian and Israeli. Not to mention Americans. You could dismiss all this as a conspiracy theory, but I am satisfied that enough credible voices have explained this.

no such thing . 9/11 was not an inside job either . it was saudis .

Oh I know that well enough. You might want to explain that to some of your Pakistani friends - they are the ones who always claim that 9/11 was an inside job by the CIA, 26/1 Mumbai was an inside job by RAW, and so on. According to them, Arabs or Pakistanis would never do such things, they are the most peace loving people on the planet.

of course not . not until it effects the relations between Iran and India .

as an example , india launched a spy sat. for israel some years back and its mission was Iran . that was very counter productive , but all in all , we want our cordial relations with India intact .

Correct, that was one action I wish India had not done. But then you have to understand that Israel provides India with a lot of cutting edge military solutions, including AEWACS, advanced radars for surveillance, etc. So when they ask India to launch a satellite for them, it would be distasteful of us to refuse, because that is one area in which our scientific expertise is far ahead of most countries, including Israel.

ayesha = bro?

I don't pay attention to names bro , 99.9% of members are male . but only 70 percent admit to it

Bro, sis, what difference does it make? "They all look the same in the dark."

(Fans of 'Arrested development' will get the rather crude joke.)

 

[TopCat]

There is nothing wrong Modi visiting Israel, infact nobody outside India really gives a fck.

In 20 years time Muslim will overtake Jews in USA.
In 20 years time Israel will be in enormous pressure for one state solution instead of two now.

 

[ito]

There is nothing wrong Modi visiting Israel, infact nobody outside India really gives a fck.

In 20 years time Muslim will overtake Jews in USA.
In 20 years time Israel will be in enormous pressure for one state solution instead of two now.

You guys really surprise me.

The only strategy you guys have for every problem you face is....we will reproduce like rabbits and fill the world.

Let me tell you this strategy will not work for every problems you guys face..in reverse it can have serious consequences