PM Narendra Modi's plan to visit Israel is just dangerous for India's foreign policy

[haman10]

No worries once FTA is signed you can enjoy all that + indias best wheat the Sharbati ...
Just a matter of time.

As we muslims say : inshaallah

 

[The Great One]

anyway , whats done is done . lets look forward

regarding bilateral ties , in recent years all we hear is good news which is very promising .

Can't argue against that.

 

[jamahir]

i myself would like to visit israel but first i will answer to the op.

The 'exploits' of Israel and the fact that this small Jewish state has survived all these decades may inspire jingoists

true... bjp and rss are much fired by israel, though this has nothing to do with israel's right to existence or the technological build-up of israel, but everything to do with those evil muslim nations "defeated" by israel.

but the fact is that an overtly strong relationship with Israel will inevitably trigger a much bigger and costlier backlash for India from Islamic nations.

1. what is a "islamic nation"??

2. for more than a decade, indian military has been israel's biggest customer of armaments and other military material and i think "civilian" telecom equipment plus israeli help to india's space agency isro... it cannot get more overt than that yet i don't see either gcc or iran sanctioning india... so the situation is more nuanced than the quote.

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israelis as a people have a right to exist as do any nationality, as long as nations are allowed to exist... however, one cannot talk of israel without talking of the palestine issue... for decades both parties did not come up with a proper solution which not only guaranteed the present israelis the right to live in that region but also guaranteed the present palestinians their right to continue to live as they had for centuries.

the "isratin" solution of muammar gaddafi presented a opportunity to remove one of the world's main problem issues yet was not taken up by both parties at deeper level... if modi or any other national leader should visit israel, it cannot cannot be anything but (a). to first resolve the israel-palestine issue by talking of isratin, (b). to learn certain non-military technological advances ( like agriculture ), (c). to engage in cultural exchanges... any other purpose of visit, any other purpose of visit should be deemed as utilizing israel's resources and capabilities to do war-mongering and destabilize the world more and taking help to repress the visitor's nation's rebellions, so such a visit must be questioned and taken to task.

Jai Hind!

umm...

 

[AugenBlick]

any other purpose of visit should be deemed as utilizing israel's resources and capabilities to do war-mongering and destabilize the world more and taking help to repress the visitor's nation's rebellions, so such a visit must be questioned and taken to task.

You can cry all you want but that is not happening in a million years.

 

[jamahir]

You can cry all you want but that is not happening in a million years.

out of my long post, all you took is that??

 

[Prajapati]

true... bjp and rss are much fired by israel, though this has nothing to do with israel's right to existence or the technological build-up of israel, but everything to do with those evil muslim nations "defeated" by israel.

Why can't you just swallow the reality that RSS and BJP is Pro Hindu, not Anti-Muslim ? They are not mutually exclusive, if you can understand what that means.

Israel has provided a strong and safe land for the Jews to live and prosper without fear or persecution. That is what BJP and RSS desire. To make India a strong and safe nation for its citizens, majority of which happens to be Hindus and the ONLY Country which can protect Hindus on our terms.

 

[[Bregs]]

Bringing relations with Israel in public domain is a delicate foreign policy shift, hopefully it goes well and is handled well by the Govt.

 

[jamahir]

Why can't you just swallow the reality that RSS and BJP is Pro Hindu, not Anti-Muslim ? They are not mutually exclusive, if you can understand what that means.

1. we all cannot avoid the reality of rss' ideology... it is not a socialist movement that negates reactionary thought... rather it is a reactionary movement.

2. i never spoke of wanting a "pro muslim" government... the underlined above two words speak of my stance as did the entire post of mine you quoted... please read that post in its entirety.

Israel has provided a strong and safe land for the Jews to live and prosper without fear or persecution.

agreed, but again, please read my post you quoted in its entirety.

That is what BJP and RSS desire. To make India a strong and safe nation for its citizens, majority of which happens to be Hindus and the ONLY Country which can protect Hindus on our terms.

nationalism is a obsolete and artificial concept... and do you want humans in 2025 to remain in compartments called "hindu, muslim, christian, sikh, jew etc" and keep fighting immaturely as they do now??

 

[SOHEIL]

Guys ... this is your country ... your country = your choice !

none of my business ...

 

[banvanaxl]

@magudi, It's bootlicking congressies like you who have managed to keep India poor and impoverished for the last 7 decades. The Gandhi dynasty is the worst ever thing that has happened to the subcontinent ever.

Partition
1962 debacle
The crippling babudom
Emergency
Billions of dollars of corruption Rajiv's Bofors, and now Damadji's multi billion dollar land scams

I could go on. Socialism as a concept died with the soviet union. Please do not bring us down to the level of North Korea.

I don't give a flying **** about hindutva, I'm patriot first and foremost and the present government is the only bloody government who is actually bothered more with the country than with filling up their pockets.

I again don't give a flying **** as to who we ally with, Israelis, Arabs, Chinese, or the damn ISIS. We will ally with the bloody devil himself if that is benefits us in the long run. That is what the government is doing, unlike the Congressi pussies.

Your archaic ideas sound awesome in JNU campuses but have no place in the real world. People like you, @jamahir etc are monoliths, soon to gone dead and buried. You will know your place, or we will put you there.

Never again will be succumb to the tyranny and the high handedness of the Gandhis. India is for Indians. One country one destiny and everything else be damned.

 

[metronome]

the "isratin" solution of muammar gaddafi presented a opportunity to remove one of the world's main problem issues yet was not taken up by both parties at deeper level

 

[VeeraBahadur]

as an example , india launched a spy sat. for israel some years back and its mission was Iran . that was very counter productive , but all in all , we want our cordial relations with India intact .

We needed SAR technology desperately to spy on pakistan and no one in world put price tagg on that tech ,hence we did what helped us to achieve our aim.

 

[scythian500]

India is a very important country and one who ignores them lose a lot in long term... but politics!! ah... politics!

Iran won't have any problems with India having relation with Israel as far as it is not hostile to Iranian security.... They are acting based on national interests and it is what all nations do...

I personally think while all Arab and Turk countries of Middle east want to be a friend of Israel and they showed it many times, it is not in Iranian interests to disagree with other nations like India to be a part of that Israel friendship campaign...

The Middle East Arab countries are somehow very delicate and sweet hearts... they can not take short term hardship for a bigger long term cause... This is why all of them tend to choose comfort than giving back the rights of one Arab nation (Palestine)... Iran now is the only important country that still side Palestinians.... Although Iranian stance toward Palestine case is not going to stay the same... Iran announced officially many times that whatever Palestinians themselves choose in a referendum, Iran will respect it... This means Iran does not use Palestine-Israeli conflict as a card for its own interests.... Iran is ready to leave the issue as soon as Palestinians themselves chose to do so... I won't deny Iranian gains & loss over Palestinian cause though....

There is an official policy in Iran that says: Iran MUST help the sides that are weaker and are deprived of their rights... Although I guess this policy can have exceptions when Iranian interests say so...

Iranian leaders are sane and smart people.. they know they can't make all the world in their side.. They are ok with any relations of ISrael as far as it is not directly against Iran's national security...

India has any rights to do whatever she finds good for their interests... Even Russia and China has relations with ISrael... All Iran is doing is to control their relationship developments so it won't turn against Iranian security...

Arabs got defeated many times by the tiny Israel and when Iran joined them to finish the problem, they started to back away and leave Iran alone in this mostly Arabic than Islamic cause... I laugh of Arab leaders promoting Arab Nationalism everyday while they sold their piece of heart Palestine and its sacred Beit Al Maghdas to Israelis and now they are thinking about befriending and allying with Israel!! The more funny thing is that now when you see their official TVs they openly criticize Iran of helping Palestinians and ask Iran to stop interfering in Arab's causes!!!

Arab countries policy is like kids... because they are sectarian and find Iran helping shia Iraqis, instead of separating this from their Israel-Palestine problem that Iran is helping them there, they choose to say ok " now that Iran is helping Hizbullah and Hizbullah is against ISraeli now we become Israeli friends to take revenge from Iran!!" This is more of a kid policy than a mature one that separates cases from each other... They are not smart enough to use Iranian stance against Israel and combine their power so they can help their own Arab Palestinians

I know by experience that still the majority of Arab people are with Iranian stance toward Palestine but their leaders acting against their nation's wills and this is because they are not independent in their decisions and obviously not even partially democratic... they just read what US and ISrael wrote for them....

Long Live Indian People... and Pakistanis too

 

[Echo_419]

As we muslims say : inshaallah

Long live Indo-Iranian ties

 

[scythian500]

We needed SAR technology desperately to spy on pakistan and no one in world put price tagg on that tech ,hence we did what helped us to achieve our aim.

Could n't India develop the tech by itself? I expect more of India...