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PM Modi to visit Israel later this year

Modi to the world is anti-muslim, he doesnt care for minority votes, and his win was good news for Israel. And who doesnt know that Israel is behind Modi's ambitious projects in Gujarat?
I know it works in India's favor to support Israel and buy arms from them, as they wont be selling the same arms to China because America wont be too happy about it. But Israel is the one which stands to get more out Modi's visit.
Israel is looking for some strong support in UN, it can not depend on EU anymore where it runs the risks of sanctions. Israel is also planning to build up its Asian trade enough to reduce its economic dependence on Europe.
My point is "why does Modi have to make it so obvious???".
The business deals and UN's sessions would continue as a leaf in the wind, so what is Modi trying to prove to the world???
Ofcourse Israel is no pariah state and should not be treated as one.


For a moment I do want to believe in this...

:lol: :lol:




Lol
Just shutttt up!
I am not sugar coating anything here.

I did not know about this.

Yes, she misused her minority status.
So???


You know what?
stop provoking me, I know some more "french" words.
Modi will be visiting Israel, Palestine and Jordan together. He club 2-3 countries on his visits. So don't dig much into his Anti Muslim image.

Come on you know what you are did there, it was a great attempt though :p:

Is there is nothing wrong in hyping up a false case in media to target and tarnish Modi's image?
 
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Modi to the world is anti-muslim, he doesnt care for minority votes, and his win was good news for Israel. And who doesnt know that Israel is behind Modi's ambitious projects in Gujarat?
I know it works in India's favor to support Israel and buy arms from them, as they wont be selling the same arms to China because America wont be too happy about it. But Israel is the one which stands to get more out Modi's visit.
Israel is looking for some strong support in UN, it can not depend on EU anymore where it runs the risks of sanctions. Israel is also planning to build up its Asian trade enough to reduce its economic dependence on Europe.
My point is "why does Modi have to make it so obvious???".
The business deals and UN's sessions would continue as a leaf in the wind, so what is Modi trying to prove to the world???
Ofcourse Israel is no pariah state and should not be treated as one.

Dealing with Israel does not mean we are siding with Israel in every single issue .

Lets say we support them in UN , do you think Iran will take actions against India .

In that case Iran has also voted against India in UN but that never stopped us from having a good relations with them .
For a moment I do want to believe in this...

:lol: :lol:

Lets say even if Mossad is behind Congress's defeat :p: , as a BJP supporter you will know what my reaction will be .
 
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@levina , I want to point out that Modi is also going to visit a very old mosque in Kerala in July. Israel visit is clubbed with Palestine, Jordan visit. Govt machinery would be working on some checks and balances. I am excited that PM is also going to visit Jordan. It is a important country for us.

I think there is no point in hiding behind bush and making love.
 
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Come on you know what you are did there, it was a great attempt though
Now who knew so many guys would pick on my harmless post. I just voiced my opinion but your hindutva gang loves to split and slice anyone with centrist leanings.
Guess what???
I am supposed to be a "hindutva troll" on pdf. Ironical!!! :tsk:
Modi will be visiting Israel, Palestine and Jordan together. He club 2-3 countries on his visits. So don't dig much into his Anti Muslim image.
Okay, i must confess I wasnt aware of this either.
But why Jordan?
Dealing with Israel does not mean we are siding with Israel in every single issue .

Lets say we support them in UN , do you think Iran will take actions against India .
how can I predict what awaits India if it makes a U-turn in its foreign policy????
I'm very sure that Modi would never support Israel in UN, he's not so dumb. :)
@levina , I want to point out that Modi is also going to visit a very old mosque in Kerala in July. Israel visit is clubbed with Palestine, Jordan visit. Govt machinery would be working on some checks and balances. I am excited that PM is also going to visit Jordan. It is a important country for us.

I frankly think there is no point in hiding behind bush and making love.
You make it sound as if India and Israel have an illegitimate relationship. Thats not true!!!
BJP and RSS are known supporters of Israel, Modi's visit would just confirm it.

Btw I'm very curious to know what is Modi planning in Jordan??? I do know that we export a lot of stuff to Jordan but I doubt Modi is visiting the kingdom just to further our trade.

Shh... @levina is a prude.... lol :D
My days aren't over btw.
:cuckoo:???
 
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Now who knew so many guys would pick on my harmless post. I just voiced my opinion but your hindutva gang loves to split and slice anyone with centrist leanings.
Guess what???
I am supposed to be a "hindutva troll" on pdf. Ironical!!! :tsk:

Okay, i must confess I wasnt aware of this either.
But why Jordan?

how can I predict what awaits India if it makes a U-turn in its foreign policy????
I'm very sure that Modi would never support Israel in UN, he's not so dumb. :)

You make it sound as if India and Israel have an illegitimate relationship. Thats not true!!!
BJP and RSS are known supporters of Israel, Modi's visit would just confirm it.

Btw I'm very curious to know what is Modi planning in Jordan??? I do know that we export a lot of stuff to Jordan but I doubt Modi is visiting the kingdom just to further our trade.


:cuckoo:???

Guess what???
we get banned for stating truth. har kisi ko mukamal Jahan nahi milta :p:

Not sure about whats the agenda of the visit to Jordan, the itinerary is not finalized yet.
 
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The best thing happened to India was when India established diplomatic relations with Israel
The second best thing is that we need to take the relationship in to an ultra strategic sphere, happy that MODI is taking the path, and for Palestine they can go to hell from the day their ambassador to Pakistan supported Kashmir terrorists
Israel and only arms? i don't believe it, we here in Karnataka and Andhra are so grateful for Israeli technology's in farming using drip irrigation and other types of irrigation using very less water as we in the region have a lot of water scarcity, without them there would have been only barren lands,
and India is having much weight in america because of Israeli pressure on america, many may believe it or leave it.
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My GCC members?
If it was about economics then GCC and Iran matters as much as Israel. We need not put all our friendships at stake for a single country.Thats all I meant.
I do know that Israel (like Russia) has been an all weather friend.

Sir I don't know what you mean by friendship. Do you think Saudis or any other muslim country is your friend ? If you think so you are totally wrong. Israel came to help you to provide shells when Russia provided you wrong satellite images. You are friend with everyone but you have very limited good friends.
 
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Enough of this pussyfooting, there is a limit to where soft power will take you forward. If you want to be among big boys you have to step up the game.

Perhaps I should clarify.

I don't care if any country or community gets offended by Modi's visits to Israel. These easily-offended constituencies should never dictate our foreign policies.

But what I want us to do is to stick our national interests at all costs, all the time. If our national interest is seen benefiting by allying with Israel on certain issues, we should go for it.

What I don't want us to do is to blindly get into an entanglement with a 'troublesome' country just to prove a point that we belong to the big boys' camp!

India should evaluate its every engagement based on individual merits - with Israel or with any other country for that matter.

Every nation look after it's interest, if one wants to depend on "Strategic partners" at the time of wars to dole out freebies you are mistaken.

True. Nobody expects to dole out freebies. But weren't there some serious allegations about how a friendly nation (alleged to be Israel?) sold 3-4 years old satellite imagery at exorbitant prices (Rs.35000 per frame?) when they were asked to provide real time images? I can bet this would have had a serious impact on the operations in Kargil!

'Friendly nation' supplied outdated satellite images during Kargil conflict: ex-Army chief



I also used to be a die-hard and rather blind fan of such co-operation between India and Israel, until I actually interacted with a lot of Israelis in work and outside. Make no mistake, even today I sympathize with the Israeli people when it comes to terrorism and admire the way they have been brutally efficient in putting the terrorism down and still progress at the same time be one of the topmost destinations for technology companies.

There is certainly a lot for us Indians to learn from them -- be it counter-terrorism, defense, medicine, agriculture etc. But I think we, Indians have to be careful not to get carried away with these emotions by blindly supporting a country like this -- even if comes at the expense of our own interests. Also, having interacted with the Israelis both on work and off, there is nothing to suggest that they reciprocate the same kind of sentimentality that some Indians (including myself) blindly share with them.

The Israelis are just like any other modern state, they will put the interests of their country first before anybody else. If it makes sense for them to sell and share defense products or give away Indian positions to Pakistan or China tomorrow, they will do so in a heartbeat. And I don't blame them for that. It would be naive for us to think that Israelis will put their own interests at risk just for supporting India. The world doesn't work like that.

All I am saying that we should be rational and realistic in our expectations and approach and treat Israeli relationships on their merits. Let us put India first. The last thing we want to get into, is another master slave relationship -- the same crime that we often accuse Pakistanis of.
 
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Perhaps I should clarify.

I don't care if any country or community gets offended by Modi's visits to Israel. These easily-offended constituencies should never dictate our foreign policies.

But what I want us to do is to stick our national interests at all costs, all the time. If our national interest is seen benefiting by allying with Israel on certain issues, we should go for it.

What I don't want us to do is to blindly get into an entanglement with a 'troublesome' country just to prove a point that we belong to the big boys' camp!

India should evaluate its every engagement based on individual merits - with Israel or with any other country for that matter.



True. Nobody expects to dole out freebies. But weren't there some serious allegations about how a friendly nation (alleged to be Israel?) sold 3-4 years old satellite imagery at exorbitant prices (Rs.35000 per frame?) when they were asked to provide real time images? I can bet this would have had a serious impact on the operations in Kargil!

'Friendly nation' supplied outdated satellite images during Kargil conflict: ex-Army chief



I also used to be a die-hard and rather blind fan of such co-operation between India and Israel, until I actually interacted with a lot of Israelis in work and outside. Make no mistake, even today I sympathize with the Israeli people when it comes to terrorism and admire the way they have been brutally efficient in putting the terrorism down and still progress at the same time be one of the topmost destinations for technology companies.

There is certainly a lot for us Indians to learn from them -- be it counter-terrorism, defense, medicine, agriculture etc. But I think we, Indians have to be careful not to get carried away with these emotions by blindly supporting a country like this -- even if comes at the expense of our own interests. Also, having interacted with the Israelis both on work and off, there is nothing to suggest that they reciprocate the same kind of sentimentality that some Indians (including myself) blindly share with them.

The Israelis are just like any other modern state, they will put the interests of their country first before anybody else. If it makes sense for them to sell and share defense products or give away Indian positions to Pakistan or China tomorrow, they will do so in a heartbeat. And I don't blame them for that. It would be naive for us to think that Israelis will put their own interests at risk just for supporting India. The world doesn't work like that.

All I am saying that we should be rational and realistic in our expectations and approach and treat Israeli relationships on their merits. Let us put India first. The last thing we want to get into, is another master slave relationship -- the same crime that we often accuse Pakistanis of.
Troublesome is ME not Israel we don't know which sect is going have a upper hand in this sectraian war thats about to blow up in whole ME. Israel is a peaceful democratic country. You didn't have to use so many words to explain or rather sugarcoat the Secular card.
 
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