PLA expert says China will not be a military rival to US for at least 50 years

[Aepsilons]

Thats the only way for VN and other sub-Mekong nations to survive on this cruel planet bro.

They will survive with integration with greater economies; further integration among ASEAN + China + Japan + India + USA.

Not by some kind of Vietnamese version of 'Manifest Destiny'.

Thats the only way for VN and other sub-Mekong nations to survive on this cruel planet bro.

Vietnam's economy is literally 1/28th that of Japan's. We have prefectures whose combined GDP is larger than Vietnam's + Thailand's combined. China's Guangdong Province, alone, is richer than Vietnam + Laos + Cambodia + Thailand + Myanmar + Malaysia combined.

Its clear that China and Japan have greater capital to offer most of the 'submekong' ergo Laos and Cambodia.

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[mike2000]

They will survive with integration with greater economies; further integration among ASEAN + China + Japan + India + USA.

Not by some kind of Vietnamese version of 'Manifest Destiny'.

Or better still they can join/unite with China. they will have a more better chance of surviving.

 

[Aepsilons]

Or better still they can join/unite with China. they will have a more better chance of surviving.

China is a continental power, if she desired to conquer that region she could , eventually. Luckily for us the Chinese are not historically a militaristic and brutal people. They are not like the Mongols. The Chinese, ever, have been centered on trade (primarily) and civilizational growth.

The Chinese Civilization is like a Tree. It may not move quickly, but within a century or two, that tree will become a forest.

 

[NiceGuy]

No, it was the constant supply of war materiel from the USSR + PRC, coupled with anti-war sentiment in the home front + change in administration that led to US policy change.

Emphasis on China's and Russia's aid. Historically, that cannot be countered.

NK also got great support from USSR-CN , they even got USSR-CN troops to fight for them when VN refuse to use USSR-CN troops, but still could not unify Korea peninsular.

 

[Aepsilons]

NK also got great support from USSR-CN , they even got USSR-CN troops to fight for them, but still could not unify Korea peninsular.

ROFLMAO!!!!

NK also got great support from USSR-CN , they even got USSR-CN troops to fight for them when VN refuse to use USSR-CN troops, but still could not unify Korea peninsular.

In the Korean War, China unleashed over 1 million PVA on the United Nations + US forces. This was independent of the NKPA's own force projection. The Korean War was a wider scope of conflict than Vietnam. Naturally.

 

[NiceGuy]

Or better still they can join/unite with China. they will have a more better chance of surviving.

CN is greedy, it will annex them, thats why Thai Major General Surasit Thanadtang support VN against CN.

 

[Aepsilons]

thats why Thai Major General Surasit Thanadtang support VN against CN.

Gen. Thanadtang is one general of hundreds, literally, in the Royal Thai Army. Thailand will not intervene in any war between China and Vietnam. If you know Thai foreign policy history, you will understand this.

Lastly the subjective opinion of Thanadtang do not speak for the entire Kingdom of Thailand and the Royal Thai Armed Forces.

 

[NiceGuy]

ROFLMAO!!!!

In the Korean War, China unleashed over 1 million PVA on the United Nations + US forces. This was independent of the NKPA's own force projection. The Korean War was a wider scope of conflict than Vietnam. Naturally.

I just explain why VN defeat US, its just not bcz of USSR-CN support, its also bcz of VNese r smart at fighting when Korea-JP r not,

U can bend the truth like Ah Q, its up to u, but the Truth wont change. US will still not be able to defeat VN even when we dont have support from USSR-CN coz they finally have to withdraw like in Iraq

 

[Yizhi]

I just explain why VN defeat US, its just not bcz of USSR-CN support, its also bcz of VNese r smart at fighting when Korea-JP r not,

U can bend the truth like Ah Q, its up to u, but the Truth wont change. US will still not be able to defeat VN even when we dont have support from USSR-CN coz they finally have to withdraw like in Iraq

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[MastanKhan]

Major General Yin Zhuo said that China’s military strength will not be a rival to the US even 50 years? At this point does anyone think that the U.S. would not have advanced further by another 50 years?

In other words, China will never ever be able to catch up with the U.S. Period!

Hi,

That is what I have been saying for so many years---. China will never catch up---. For that to happen---U S needs to go to sleep for 50 years.

 

[NiceGuy]

Gen. Thanadtang is one general of hundreds, literally, in the Royal Thai Army. Thailand will not intervene in any war between China and Vietnam. If you know Thai foreign policy history, you will understand this.

Lastly the subjective opinion of Thanadtang do not speak for the entire Kingdom of Thailand and the Royal Thai Armed Forces.

Thats why we have to build a tank center in Battambang , so we can protect pro-VN generals in Thai, and when they have a chance to become Thai leader, they may support VN like Mr. Hun Sen in Kam

 

[Aepsilons]

I just explain why VN defeat US, its just not bcz of USSR-CN support, its also bcz of VNese r smart at fighting when Korea-JP r not,

U can bend the truth like Ah Q, its up to u, but the Truth wont change. US will still not be able to defeat VN even when we dont have support from USSR-CN coz they finnally have to withdraw like in Iraq

The United States military are affiliated with guerrilla warfare as they were accustomed to it during the Philippine-American War of 1898-1901, when the US Military put down the Philippine Revolutionary Army of some 70,000 insurectos. The US know about guerilla warfare, they fought that kind of warfare strategy against the British in the 18th century, again with the Rebels during the American Civil War, and also during the Mexican-American War. Not to mention the war with Japan throughout the Pacific and Southeast Asia.

In regards to Vietnam conflict, it really wasn't a war per se. It was a police action gone haywire, officially. US military performed gallantly and won engagement with the North Vietnamese. There were 3 barriers to complete American victory:

1) US hands were tied; as they were unable to go on the offensive as per US policy of only 'aiding' the South Vietnamese Government

2) The inherent corruption and coup attempts in the South Vietnamese Government -- led to national instability and eventual collapse , organizationwise

3) Growing opposition at home to US military intervention (despite US military success in all engagements)

 

[MastanKhan]

I just explain why VN defeat US, its just not bcz of USSR-CN support, its also bcz of VNese r smart at fighting when Korea-JP r not,

U can bend the truth like Ah Q, its up to u, but the Truth wont change. US will still not be able to defeat VN even when we dont have support from USSR-CN coz they finally have to withdraw like in Iraq

Sir,

Don't live under the illusion that the Vietnamese defeated the U S----are you old enough to remember LINEBACKER 2.

Even though the U S had to withdraw from Iraq---it has completely destroyed Iraq---. U S is fighting wars in a different manner---just to destroy the complete infra structure of the country in question and then leave.

 

[Aepsilons]

Thats why we have to build a tank center in Battambang , so we can protect pro-VN generals in Thai, and when they have a chance to become Thai leader, they may support VN like Mr. Hun Sen in Kam

Friend,

I don't want to engage in hypothetical , far fetched scenarios. I have no time nor do i have the patience for such asinine quandaries. I leave you to dream on your own.

 

[NiceGuy]

Sir,

Don't live under the illusion that the Vietnamese defeated the U S----are you old enough to remember LINEBACKER 2.

Even though the U S had to withdraw from Iraq---it has completely destroyed Iraq---. U S is fighting wars in a different manner---just to destroy the complete infra structure of the country in question and then leave.

After LINEBACKER 2, US had to withdraw its troops coz they lost so many B-52 and their pilots refused to fight any more war wt VN.

Unlike Iraq, we r good at rebuilding our nations from ashes, we were under CN's occupation for 1 thousand years, suffered the Mongol invasion 3 times (they also completely destroyed our capital ), fighting against CN-France after that, so US wont make any change, we will still survive as usual

The United States military are affiliated with guerrilla warfare as they were accustomed to it during the Philippine-American War of 1898-1901, when the US Military put down the Philippine Revolutionary Army of some 70,000 insurectos. The US know about guerilla warfare, they fought that kind of warfare strategy against the British in the 18th century, again with the Rebels during the American Civil War, and also during the Mexican-American War. Not to mention the war with Japan throughout the Pacific and Southeast Asia.

In regards to Vietnam conflict, it really wasn't a war per se. It was a police action gone haywire, officially. US military performed gallantly and won engagement with the North Vietnamese. There were 3 barriers to complete American victory:

1) US hands were tied; as they were unable to go on the offensive as per US policy of only 'aiding' the South Vietnamese Government

2) The inherent corruption and coup attempts in the South Vietnamese Government -- led to national instability and eventual collapse , organizationwise

3) Growing opposition at home to US military intervention (despite US military success in all engagements)

And they still have to withdraw even they r also good at guerilla warfare due to military budget cut, u think US soldiers will still fight with No salary ??

Friend,

I don't want to engage in hypothetical , far fetched scenarios. I have no time nor do i have the patience for such asinine quandaries. I leave you to dream on your own.

Yeah, Ah Q never wanna listen to the Truth, but bad ending will teach him a lesson.

VN has been expanding our territories for century to become big and strong enough to counter all threat , after 1979, we successfully took the control of Laos-Kam's military forces, So,.there is No reason for us to stop our expansion when we r still too small and weak to counter CN-US