PLA expert says China will not be a military rival to US for at least 50 years

[UKBengali]

It is YOU who are illogical. In order to declare that no one have been at the top forever, you have to know how long is forever, which defeats the purpose of what is forever in the first place.

Have you thought about a job as a circus clown?

Rome, British Empire all have gone down. What makes the US any different?

Ok, so keeping your logic in mind, no one has stayed at the bottom forever. So do we expect Bangla Desh to become the next super power by 2050?

BD is a lot better than your starving filthy India.

India is the only non-sub-Saharan country where millions die due to malnutrition related illnesses every year.

 

[mike2000]

Bro, US didnt fight alone in VN war, so why should we VN fought alone against US and its allies such as Aussie-SK-NATO-PH-Thai_Sing etc ??

If US fought one on one wt VN, I didnt think they could win, too coz its nearest territory Guam is still too far from VN

US lost in VN war, thats why they must give up to VN the important oil shipping lane from Singapore to Guam in SCS(east sea)

If U.S fought one on one with Vietnam you dont think they will win? ........................................................................

Come on bro, dont say such a silly thing. As i said, without massive Chinese and Soviet help/advisers/logistics etc Vietnam wouldnt stand a chance at all against the U.S nor the french before it. Simple fact/truth. This is not denying Vietnamese soldiers tough fighting spirit, just saying they couldnt stand fighting the U.S alone and survive.

 

[NiceGuy]

If U.S fought one on one with Vietnam you dont think they will win? ........................................................................

Come on bro, dont say such a silly thing. As i said, without massive Chinese and Soviet help/advisers/logistics etc Vietnam wouldnt stand a chance at all against the U.S nor the french before it. Simple fact/truth. This is not denying Vietnamese soldiers tough fighting spirit, just saying they couldnt stand fighting the U.S alone and survive.

France went broke after WW2, they had to beg for US support to continue the war in Indochina, France also used Legion army- former Nazi soldiers in the battle fo Dien Bien Phu. France had no chance to survive if fighting wt VN alone.

Abt US, pls explain to me how US alone could defeat VN when its nearest territory to VN is Guam ??

 

[mike2000]

France went broke after WW2, they had to beg for US support to continue the war in Indochina, France also used Legion army- former Nazi soldiers in the battle fo Dien Bien Phu. France had no chance to survive if fighting wt VN alone.

Abt US, pls explain to me how US alone could defeat VN when its nearest territory to VN is Guam ??

U.S navy/army has a massive power projection capabilities. It can basically invade/overwhelm any small/medium sized countries in their own soil, bar bigger nuclear powers like Russia etc. Even conventionally without nuclear weapons, the U.S can surely defeat Russia. Vietnam in a one on one battle(no external support) stands no chance against big coutries like Russia, or Japan. Forget about the U.S. The U.S had enough power to overwhelm the Mighty imperial Japanese(who by the way captured/inavded and ruled Vietnam and much of Asia~). so how do you think Vietnam can stand a chance against the U.S. I know you often make outlandish claims, but bro, try and be more realistic in your assess,ments. lol Moreover U.S nearest terrirotry isnt guam, it has several military bases in the region like in S.korea, Japan, Singapore and philippines. they can all easilly be used against Vietnam if need be. To put things in perspective Vietnam isnt even in the same league with Korea, let alone the U.S

 

[NiceGuy]

U.S navy/army has a massive power projection capabilities. It can basically invade/overwhelm any small/medium sized countries in their own soil, bar bigger nuclear powers like Russia etc. Even conventionally without nuclear weapons, the U.S can surely defeat Russia. Vietnam in a one on one battle(no external support) stands no chance against big coutries like Russia, or Japan. Forget about the U.S. The U.S had enough power to overwhelm the Mighty imperial Japanese(who by the way captured/inavded and ruled Vietnam and much of Asia~). so how do you think Vietnam can stand a chance against the U.S. I know you often make outlandish claims, but bro, try and be more realistic in your assess,ments. lol Moreover U.S nearest terrirotry isnt guam, it has several military bases in the region like in S.korea, Japan, Singapore and philippines. they can all easilly be used against Vietnam if need be. To put things in perspective Vietnam isnt even in the same league with Korea, let alone the U.S

Okay, US can occupy our land but in how long ?? Pls note that they just left Iraq due to military budget cut. We will just simply keep the guerilla warfare and move to CN-Laos-Russia etc, wait until they run out of money and have to withdraw.

Thats the way we defeat mighty Mongol even when they capture our capital Thang Long (Ha Noi now.)

 

[Nike]

U.S navy/army has a massive power projection capabilities. It can basically invade/overwhelm any small/medium sized countries in their own soil, bar bigger nuclear powers like Russia etc. Even conventionally without nuclear weapons, the U.S can surely defeat Russia. Vietnam in a one on one battle(no external support) stands no chance against big coutries like Russia, or Japan. Forget about the U.S. The U.S had enough power to overwhelm the Mighty imperial Japanese(who by the way captured/inavded and ruled Vietnam and much of Asia~). so how do you think Vietnam can stand a chance against the U.S. I know you often make outlandish claims, but bro, try and be more realistic in your assess,ments. lol Moreover U.S nearest terrirotry isnt guam, it has several military bases in the region like in S.korea, Japan, Singapore and philippines. they can all easilly be used against Vietnam if need be. To put things in perspective Vietnam isnt even in the same league with Korea, let alone the U.S

Unfortunately since the end of WW II, they always doing something with hands tied

 

[mike2000]

Okay, US can occupy our land but in how long ?? Pls note that they just left Iraq due to military budget cut. We will just simply keep the guerilla warfare and move to CN-Laos-Russia etc, wait until they run out of money and have to withdraw.

Thats the way we defeat mighty Mongol even when they capture our capital Thang Long (Ha Noi now.)

LOOL Ironically, i somehow agree with you. But then again, thats not what you meant by defeating the U.S.lool In fact any small country soldiers/military can still run away and dissipate inside civilian population/use guerilla tactics of hit and run etc. Thats not really fighting another military face to face. By this measure i can even say the Chinese didnt lose the war per se against Vietnam , since they were able to innvade your country to the point of getting to borders of Hanoi, you also used hit and run tactics and mixing in with civilian populations, just like the Taliban have been doing in Afghanistan against the U.S/west. Thats not really what we mean by a defeating an ennemy per se.lool Its more like running/shying away when faced with an overwhelming military/opponent. Thats another discussion altogether though.

In short, i think Vietnamese people should be focusing more on imprroving their living standards, and becoming a wealthy country, after that , all other things shall come naturally to it. You cant get respect in this world on borrowed power(i.e importing weapons/soviet era stuffs , while majority of your population lives under porverty) while your country neeeds this funds on improving its social living conditions andmoving up to a middle/high income range. Countries like S.korea, Japan get respect all over the world not because of their so called super power weapons.lool But because of their high living standards/productivity/high tech goods/wealth etc. Thats what Vietnam should be aiming for. Not ruling 'sub mekong region' which is just laughable to be honest. Our governments and Russia who are cheering you up for buying their weapons are only doing so for our companies/industries who benefit from this, all the while they laugh behind your backs to be honest. Vietnam priority should be improving its people living standards and avoiding its officials stealing/embezzling poor farmers Chickens again because of porverty. lool

 

[Aepsilons]

Thats what Vietnam should be aiming for. Not ruling 'sub mekong region' which is just laughable to be honest.

He's been told that more than once, buddy.

He's got an interesting thinking process.

 

[NiceGuy]

LOOL Ironically, i somehow agree with you. But then again, thats not what you meant by defeating the U.S.lool In fact any small country soldiers/military can still run away and dissipate inside civilian population/use guerilla tactics of hit and run etc. Thats not really fighting another military face to face. By this measure i can even say the Chinese didnt lose the war per se against Vietnam , since they were able to innvade your country to the point of getting to borders of Hanoi, you also used hit and run tactics and mixing in with civilian populations, just like the Taliban have been doing in Afghanistan against the U.S/west. Thats not really what we mean by a defeating an ennemy per se.lool Its more like running/shying away when faced with an overwhelming military/opponent. Thats another discussion altogether though.

Nope, I only say US couldnt win if fighting one on one wt VN, just like in Iraq, they will have to withdraw due to military budget cut

In short, i think Vietnamese people should be focusing more on imprroving their living standards, and becoming a wealthy country, after that , all other things shall come naturally to it. You cant get respect in this world on borrowed power(i.e importing weapons/soviet era stuffs , while majority of your population lives under porverty) while your country neeeds this funds on improving its social living conditions andmoving up to a middle/high income range. Countries like S.korea, Japan get respect all over the world not because of their so called super power weapons.lool But because of their high living standards/productivity/high tech goods/wealth etc. Thats what Vietnam should be aiming for. Not ruling 'sub mekong region' which is just laughable to be honest. Our governments and Russia who are cheering you up for buying their weapons are only doing so for our companies/industries who benefit from this, all the while they laugh behind your backs to be honest. Vietnam priority should be improving its people living standards and avoiding its officials stealing/embezzling poor farmers Chickens again because of porverty. lool

We've just ordered Cambodian royal army general Meas-sopheas a VNese general in Kam to build a big tank maintenance center in Battambang-a closet province to Thai. We wont waste our money in Battambang if it brings no benefit to VN, right.

And it could be used to unify sub-Mekong region

 

[mike2000]

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Unfortunately since the end of WW II, they always doing something with hands tied

yes American politics sometimes hampers their foreign policies initiatives/sucess. Thats one bad part of what their military has to endure..

 

[Aepsilons]

yes American politics sometimes hampers their foreign policies initiatives/sucess. Thats one bad part of what their military has to endure..

Only due to the anomalies of the electoral process. One should dichotomize the foreign policies of Kennedy-Johnson vs Nixon, in context to Vietnam. The latter was more retrogressive. One should open a new thread on this , id love to divulge more but out of respect to the subject matter in this thread, i'll refrain.

Nope, I only say US couldnt win if fighting one on one wt VN, just like in Iraq, they will have to withdraw due to military budget cut

Don't be asinine. You owe your existence to the aid of both the Soviet Union and the Chinese. Without these two's constant supply into Vietnam, there was no way the NVAF would have been able to counter US bombers and fighters.

Alone, your country (North Vietnam) would have been overwhelmed. Period.

Military History Online
- Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge


Soviet Aid to North Vietnam

 

[NiceGuy]

Don't be asinine. You owe your existence to the aid of both the Soviet Union and the Chinese. Without these two's constant supply into Vietnam, there was no way the NVAF would have been able to counter US bombers and fighters.

Alone, your country (North Vietnam) would have been overwhelmed.

Military History Online
- Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge

JP is not smart at war bcz of their short vision. JP turned CN-USSR into their enemies when fighting against US, so they had No where to run when US came to their land and had to surrender .

VN is different, we can use guerrilla tactic and run to other nations such as USSR-CN-Lao etc to wait until US run out of money and have to withdraw like in Iraq.

 

[mike2000]

Nope, I only say US couldnt win if fighting one on one wt VN, just like in Iraq, they will have to withdraw due to military budget cut

We've just ordered Cambodian royal army general Meas-sopheas a VNese general in Kam to build a big tank maintenance center in Battambang-a closet province to Thai. We wont waste our money in Battambang if it brings no benefit to VN, right.

And it could be used to unify sub-Mekong region

AHAHAHAHAHAHA............... Thats why you are my one and only niceguy. You always make me laugh bro. I knew i couldnt change your mind anyway, since you will rule the 'sub mekong region'and SEA . Its your destiny to rule them. Keep it up. Hopefully you will be sucessful one day. No crime in trying. loool.

 

[Aepsilons]

VN is different, we can use guerrilla tactic and run to other nations such as USSR-CN-Lao etc to wait until US run out of money and have to withdraw like in Iraq.

No, it was the constant supply of war materiel from the USSR + PRC, coupled with anti-war sentiment in the home front + change in administration that led to US policy change.

Emphasis on China's and Russia's aid. Historically, that cannot be countered.

 

[NiceGuy]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA............... Thats why you are my one and only niceguy. You always make me laugh bro. I knew i couldnt change your mind anyway, since you will rule the 'sub mekong region'and SEA . Its your destiny to rule them. Keep it up. Hopefully you will be sucessful one day. No crime in trying. loool.

Thats the only way for VN and other sub-Mekong nations to survive on this cruel planet bro.