Pentagon: Iran, Russia, Pakistan Continue to Support Afghan Taliban

[Indian wonk]

TTP has links with India RAW and NDS: Ehsanullah Ehsan

The Army on Wednesday released the confessional statement of Liaquat Ali, infamously known as Ehsanullah Ehsan, a former spokesperson of the Jamaat-ul-Ahrar (JuA) and Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

Oh please !!! confessions can be easily extracted with the fear of torture from anyone . Give Ehsanullah Ehsan to India and in 1 day he will say that TTP was created by ISI in front of Indian Television. . If he doesn't say we will peel his flesh from the bones .
IT IS CALLED FORCED CONFESSION UNDER DURESS.

AFGHAN TALIBAN AND TTP are Deobandi Pashtun fanatics why would they listen or work for Hindu India .
They are attacking Pakistan because YOUR President MUSHARAF HELPED USA KILL their bretheren .

 

[Muhammed45]

Food for thought.

Taliban and ISIS are both brutal



Isis and Taliban join forces to murder hated Shia minority

Islamic State commanders in Afghanistan have said that they will sanction joint attacks with the rival Taliban to target the Hazara Shia minority, which is hated by both groups.


Last week Taliban insurgents and fighters loyal to a commander who has switched to Isis co-ordinated their operations to massacre more than 50 civilians at Sayad district in the northern province of Sar-e-Pul, which Afghan forces are fighting to retake.

The Hazara in Sayad found themselves under attack from both groups.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...orces-to-murder-hated-shia-minority-w0mnbl9t0



Lets not forget the 8000 Shia Hazaras butchered in Mazar -e-Sharif

THE MASSACRE IN MAZAR-I SHARIF
https://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports98/afghan/Afrepor0.htm

BS western propaganda.

My Afghan friends told me that some Shia minorities have asked for support from Taliban Mujahids. People like Ahmad Shah Masood are hero of Muslims. TTP terrorists armed by NATO forces have different story

 

[Indian wonk]

BS western propaganda.

My Afghan friends told me that some Shia minorities have asked for support from Taliban Mujahids. People like Ahmad Shah Masood are hero of Muslims. TTP terrorists armed by NATO forces have different story

Believe whatever you want
Do you deny Taliban butchered 8000 Shia hazaras when the took Mazar-e sharif in 1998 ??? There is video of it . They also murdered Iranian diplomats who were helping the Shia Hazaras .

Watch the video.
IRAN: EXECUTION OF DIPLOMATS IN AFGHANISTAN MOURNED

As far as Lion of Panjshir the Tajik warlord Ahmad Shah Massod is concerned . He was getting Indian help and was hated by Taliban and Pakistan. He was murdered by AL-Quieda on the behest of Taliban and he DIED IN INDIAN MILITARY HOSPITAL IN TAJIKISTAN.

 

[BHarwana]

Oh please !!! confessions can be easily extracted with the fear of torture from anyone . Give Ehsanullah Ehsan to India and in 1 day he will say that TTP was created by ISI in front of Indian Television. . If he doesn't say we will peel his flesh from the bones .
IT IS CALLED FORCED CONFESSION UNDER DURESS.

Look my friend the second largest population of Shias is in India after Iran. Shia are the only militia in the 21th century that has defeated a Supper power in Syira. Shia's are the only Malitia that have defeated Israel Defence forces (IDF). I would suggest Indian Army and RAW should not push it's luck by targeting Shia and killing them in Pakistan because If Shia turn on Indian Army they will cry. Shia in Hazara don't use internet much but they know India is their enemy and they will attack India. Shia are inter connected from Labenon to India and China and they will fight back India's proxy war and India will suffer.

The biggest example is that TTP and ISIS has targeted Shia's in Pakistan and Afghanistan and till now Shia have not picked a stone against Pakistan because Shia's know who is killing them It is India.


In war against terrorist Shia Sunnis and Doebandis stand togather and there is a common statement USA and India has to leave Afghanistan. forget 1990 this is the new alliance against Western terror. The OP article is the biggest example it clearly say Iran Shia Pakistan Sunni and Russia Orthodax three forces have united against Kuffar in Afghanistan and In the prophecy of Ghazwa Hind it is the same three forces that will Invade India and Drag Indian rulers chained in steel to justice.

Believe whatever you want
Do you deny Taliban butchered 8000 Shia hazaras when the took Mazar-e sharif in 1998 ??? There is video of it . They also murdered Iranian diplomats who were helping the Shia Hazaras .

Watch the video.
IRAN: EXECUTION OF DIPLOMATS IN AFGHANISTAN MOURNED


As far as Lion of Panjshir the Tajik warlord Ahmad Shah Massod is concerned . He was getting Indian help and was hated by Taliban and Pakistan. He was murdered by AL-Quieda on the behest of Taliban and he DIED IN INDIAN MILITARY HOSPITAL IN TAJIKISTAN.

Iran Pakistan Russia and China stand united against Occupants of Afghanistan. Look at these posts there is an Irani and Pakistani speaking same language on Afghanistan. So try comprehending that. It is simple Indian narrative and proxy has failed.

 

[Indian wonk]

Look my friend the second largest population of Shias is in India after Iran. Shia are the only militia in the 21th century that has defeated a Supper power in Syira. Shia's are the only Malitia that have defeated Israel Defence forces (IDF). I would suggest Indian Army and RAW should not push it's luck by targeting Shia and killing them in Pakistan because If Shia turn on Indian Army they will cry. Shia in Hazara don't use internet much but they know India is their enemy and they will attack India. Shia are inter connected from Labenon to India and China and they will fight back India's proxy war and India will suffer.

The biggest example is that TTP and ISIS has targeted Shia's in Pakistan and Afghanistan and till now Shia have not picked a stone against Pakistan because Shia's know who is killing them It is India.


In war against terrorist Shia Sunnis and Doebandis stand togather and there is a common statement USA and India has to leave Afghanistan. forget 1990 this is the new alliance against Western terror. The OP article is the biggest example it clearly say Iran Shia Pakistan Sunni and Russia Orthodax three forces have united against Kuffar in Afghanistan and In the prophecy of Ghazwa Hind it is the same three forces that will Invade India and Drag Indian rulers chained in steel to justice.

Bla Bla Bla believe whatever you want . Shias are proud Indians and they serve in Indian army and helped kill all the terrorists that were sent to Kashmir. They serve in Indian army in Kashmir and have become 3 star Lt Generals in Indian army commanding 180000 Indian Soldiers of whom 99% of them are Hindu/Sikh. I have many Shia friends .
Surprising they even voted for BJP in UP and Gujrat not all but some. Many Muslims in BJP a rightwing party are Shias .
As far as Indian Army is concerned well you know ......
SURPRISINGLY A LOT OF INDIAN SHIAS HATE PAKISTAN DON'T KNOW WHY NEVER ASKED.

 

[war&peace]

US is slowly but gradually building a narrative against Pakistan where another war can be justified this time to eliminate so called sanctuaries inside Pakistan just like so called WMDs in Iraq. And as usual heads of our government and those who matter in making our strategic calculus remains burred in sand.
So how many still want to believe that US is not a threat and the relations between US and Pakistan will never go to a point of conflict?
@war&peace @Irfan Baloch @MastanKhan @blain2 @snow lake @Mrc @Kaptaan @Jungibaaz

With Trump in power, everything is possible but it depends on us whether we show balls and spine or procrastinate. It is not US call, it is our call. NK, Iran and Syria are fine examples and Pakistan is much better equipped. We should convey to them in unambiguous term that any such action will be responded with our full might and we have the capability to target their assets in the region and elsewhere. That is why I have started to think that Pakistan must test an ICBM or at least have some ready for testing.

 

[BHarwana]

With Trump in power, everything is possible but it depends on us whether we show balls and spine or procrastinate. It is not US call, it is our call. NK, Iran and Syria are fine examples and Pakistan is much better equipped. We should convey to them in unambiguous term that any such action will be responded with our full might and we have the capability to target their assets in the region and elsewhere. That is why I have started to think that Pakistan must test an ICBM or at least have some ready for testing.

One very simple question how will USA launch a war on Pakistan? USA and what army? USA uses Tom Hawks Pakistan will retaliate. Afghan forces will attack that will be their biggest foolish move. If Afghan forces attack Taliban will take out Kabul. India coming into this mess will result in a nuclear war that will turn into a MAD. These all are dreams it is dead lock. USA and India Afghanistan cannot do any thing that is why Pakistan is pushing USA. Because USA is help less.

 

[IceCold]

One very simple question how will USA launch a war on Pakistan? USA and what army? USA uses Tom Hawks Pakistan will retaliate. Afghan forces will attack that will be their biggest foolish move. If Afghan forces attack Taliban will take out Kabul. India coming into this mess will result in a nuclear war that will turn into a MAD. These all are dreams it is dead lock. USA and India Afghanistan cannot do any thing that is why Pakistan is pushing USA. Because USA is help less.

The first mistake is to underestimate your enemy and in this case you are underestimating the worlds sole superpower, seriously? Lets not get ahead of ourselves. If US want to take us out, they very well can and they dont need large conventional forces to do that. For US its always the air dominance which can be achieved by them. Pakistan lacks strategic depth which can result in our assets rather taken out quickly.
The reason i mentioned our heads in sand because after 9/11 when we were threaten to be bombed back to stone age, since than we have done nothing. Yes we have the capability to hit US assets in the region but is it big enough of a threat to stop US from confronting Pakistan in an armed conflict? The answer is No.

 

[LeGenD]

One very simple question how will USA launch a war on Pakistan? USA and what army? USA uses Tom Hawks Pakistan will retaliate. Afghan forces will attack that will be their biggest foolish move. If Afghan forces attack Taliban will take out Kabul. India coming into this mess will result in a nuclear war that will turn into a MAD. These all are dreams it is dead lock. USA and India Afghanistan cannot do any thing that is why Pakistan is pushing USA. Because USA is help less.

You are forgetting Operation Neptune Spear, and it was just a tip of the iceberg.

In case of war, US will deploy assets that will jam and/or neutralize much of Pakistani defenses and utilize its elite forces to assault centers of power and key installations throughout the country in the same night. In-case you didn't knew, Pakistani nuclear warheads are kept in safe-zones and not mated with the missiles on 24/7 basis due to risks and costs involved. This gives US special forces a chance to conduct large-scale hit-and-run operations in the designated sectors of the country.

The aforementioned strategy is component of a contingency plan of Pentagon to take care of Pakistan in-case shit hits the fan. No! I am not joking.

As for the tomahawk cruise missiles; if just two USN vessels can unleash about 60 cruise missiles on a wide-range targets inside a hostile territory (as happened in Syria), imagine how many USN can unleash with a much larger deployment.

Bro, war is a terrible thing and we haven't seen a real one for a while. Stop assuming that Pakistan cannot be touched and/or harmed because we have nukes. At the end of the day, we are human beings with limitations.

 

[IceCold]

With Trump in power, everything is possible but it depends on us whether we show balls and spine or procrastinate. It is not US call, it is our call. NK, Iran and Syria are fine examples and Pakistan is much better equipped. We should convey to them in unambiguous term that any such action will be responded with our full might and we have the capability to target their assets in the region and elsewhere. That is why I have started to think that Pakistan must test an ICBM or at least have some ready for testing.

I agree with the ICBM part. During Clinton's tenure as President, Taiwan wanted to declare independence, China was thinking of launching a military offensive should that happen, US decided to intervene and sent its carrier group to deter China. The only threat that stopped US was Chinese threat to respond with Nuclear should US intervene. We all know China wasnt as advance or military capable back than as it is today however the fact that China could hit US mainland resulted in US backing down and Taiwan stopping short from declaring their independence. Israel although has no threat from Europe or the US continues to make ICBM and the Samson doctrine.
Now is the time for Pakistan to develop a similar doctrine with respect to US. Since Pakistan lacks strategic depth, we should make it clear that in case of US attack, the response will be unconventional and against US main land. and for that to happen It is pertinent that we bring the main land in our range irrespective of how many eye brows it raises.

 

[BHarwana]

You are forgetting Operation Neptune Spear, and it was just a tip of the iceberg.

In case of war, US will field assets that will jam and/or neutralize much of Pakistani defenses and utilize its elite forces to assault centers of power and key installations throughout the country in same night. Keep in mind that Pakistani nuclear warheads are kept in storage and not mated with the missiles on 24/7 basis. This gives US special forces a chance to conduct hit-and-run operations in the designated sectors of the country.

The aforementioned strategy is part of a contingency plan of Pentagon to take care of Pakistan in-case shit hits the fan.

Bro, war is a terrible thing and we haven't seen a real one for a while. Stop assuming that Pakistan cannot be touched and/or harmed because we have nukes. At the end of the day, we are human beings with limitations.

LOL Pakistan is not a country like Panama where USA did this. Forget nukes lets imagine normal warfare. USA has currently 8000 boots in Afghanistan and totally located in close boundaries of Kabul and few named bases. If USA attacks hit those targets directly. Pakistan has many missiles focus them on straight of Harmoz on USA carriers groups no matter how good the aegis are they carry limited missiles so in the end they will get hit and burn to ground. It will take like 30 missile to sink an entire carrier group. Next problem is USA bomber carrying nuke simple if they use nukes use second strike capability subs on califorina which contributes 70% to USA economy and end it with MAD.

 

[Path-Finder]

You are forgetting Operation Neptune Spear, and it was just a tip of the iceberg.

In case of war, US will deploy assets that will jam and/or neutralize much of Pakistani defenses and utilize its elite forces to assault centers of power and key installations throughout the country in the same night. In-case you didn't knew, Pakistani nuclear warheads are kept in safe-zones and not mated with the missiles on 24/7 basis due to risks and costs involved. This gives US special forces a chance to conduct large-scale hit-and-run operations in the designated sectors of the country.

The aforementioned strategy is component of a contingency plan of Pentagon to take care of Pakistan in-case shit hits the fan. No! I am not joking.

As for the tomahawk cruise missiles; if just two USN vessels can unleash about 60 cruise missiles on a wide-range targets inside a hostile territory (as happened in Syria), imagine how many USN can unleash with a much larger deployment.

Bro, war is a terrible thing and we haven't seen a real one for a while. Stop assuming that Pakistan cannot be touched and/or harmed because we have nukes. At the end of the day, we are human beings with limitations.

I get it America is too powerful and you never fail to emphasize the power of the US.

 

[BHarwana]

There is one other way to end this all test fire the long pending test of Taimoor Missile.

 

[BATMAN]

US is slowly but gradually building a narrative against Pakistan where another war can be justified this time to eliminate so called sanctuaries inside Pakistan just like so called WMDs in Iraq. And as usual heads of our government and those who matter in making our strategic calculus remains burred in sand.
So how many still want to believe that US is not a threat and the relations between US and Pakistan will never go to a point of conflict?
@war&peace @Irfan Baloch @MastanKhan @blain2 @snow lake @Mrc @Kaptaan @Jungibaaz

US can't war against Pakistan without support from India, Iran and Afghanistan.
If Pakistan is bit foresighted, they would preemptively strike 500'000 Indian army in Kashmir, and this way Iran will become useless and US will be strategically at loss.

 

[313ghazi]

@Indian wonk - who cares? The real politik of it is our strategic interests will come ahead of the interests of minority groups in Afghanistan.