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Panel to decide if Faiz poem is anti-Hindu!!!

Beef ban must be happening in space. No???

You can abstain from eating beef, worship Cows and drink her piss for all I care, but why are we stopped from eating beef? Is that not imposition of your beliefs.

If you wanna say Vande mataram and Bharat mata ki jai, then so be it. Why force others to do the same? We will express our patriotism our way, not the way you dictate us.
Beef ban was already in place. You didn't know? It seems like your ilk started reading the constitution and laws right after 2014. Whatever that be cow urine or camel urine.

We got the Bharat Mata ki Jai part covered. It's good to see you lot finally raising it.:D Now "Bharat mata ki jai" huh?? I'm actually loving these protests, at least 2 or 3 of you will learn something from it. Soon you will sing Vande matharam.

Any reference to this translation or did you just make it up?

Anyways a few sources which explains why muslims object to it and why they believe that it goes against their religious beliefs.
Go translate it genius. It's in Bengali. As for your news links, nobody ask you to sing the entire poem. Only the ones adopted i.e the first two stanza which praises India. It was part of Independence movement and this poem was banned by the British fearing consolidation of Indian Nationalism. Only people who find religion in everything cannot tolerate it.
 
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Beef ban was already in place. You didn't know? It seems like your ilk started reading the constitution and laws right after 2014. Whatever that be cow urine or camel urine.
2014??? Were we discussing about the year of imposition? I am speaking about forcing your beliefs on us. Weren't we??

camel urineo_O looks like, I've hit your raw nerve...;)

We got the Bharat Mata ki Jai part covered. It's good to see you lot finally raising it.:D Now "Bharat mata ki jai" huh?? I'm actually loving these protests, at least 2 or 3 of you will learn something from it. Soon you will sing Vande matharam.
LOL "Bharat Mata ki Jai" was never a problem for a Indian muslim.. Your lot made it an issue in the recent past. Its your imposition which will be resisted. Jamia Millia Islamia was part of Indian freedom struggle, Are the british bootlicking Sanghis paplus going to teach them patriotism??:rofl:

Go translate it genius. It's in Bengali. As for your news links, nobody ask you to sing the entire poem. Only the ones adopted i.e the first two stanza which praises India. It was part of Independence movement and this poem was banned by the British fearing consolidation of Indian Nationalism. Only people who find religion in everything cannot tolerate it.
LOL... Go translate:what::what: How? I can't read/write/understand Bengali, forget about understanding the intricacies of poetic stanzas. Use Google translate? Is that what you are trying to imply?

Anyways I already posted the reason(WITH REFERENCES) why it is opposed, care to read it before making idiotic assumptions.
 
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It's anti Indian, read sawaskar and Vajpayee's poems.
 
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LOL... Go translate:what::what: How? I can't read/write/understand Bengali, forget about understanding the intricacies of poetic stanzas. Use Google translate? Is that what you are trying to imply?

Anyways I already posted the reason(WITH REFERENCES) why it is opposed, care to read it before making idiotic assumptions.

Interesting thing is that these so called secular leaders of Congress, including Gandhi, Nehru, Tagore etc. etc. never condemned that obnoxious anti-Muslim novel Anandmath, in which this Vande Mataram was produced. Rather, they always appreciated that crap as some sort of high piece of literature. Their duplicity and deception was unmatched, in this regard.
 
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Panel to decide if Faiz poem is anti-Hindu!!!
There had been recent countrywide protests against the CAA, including at the Jamia Millia Islamia University. IIT Kanpur students had taken out a peaceful march in support of the Jamia students.

The IIT Kanpur has set up a panel to decide whether the poem ‘Hum dekhenge lazim hai ki hum bhi dekhenge’, penned by Faiz Ahmad Faiz, is anti-Hindu.
The panel has been set up in response to a complaint filed by a faculty member who claimed that the students, during a protest, sang the poem, which is anti-Hindu.
The panel will also probe whether the students violated prohibitory orders clamped in the city on the day of the march, whether they posted objectionable content on the social media and whether the Faiz poem is anti-Hindu.

The poem reads—‘Lazim hai ke hum bhi dekhenge. Jab arz-e-Khuda ke kaabe se. Sab but uthwaye jayenge, Hum ahl-e-safa mardood-e-harm. Masnad pe bithaye jayenge. Sab taaj uchale jaenge. Sab takht giraye jayenge. Bas naam rahega Allah ka. Hum dekhenge.

It was the last line that has turned into a bone of contention. Translated into English, it means, ‘When thrones will vanish, only Allah’s name will remain’--implying the translation by the professor.

The poem had been written by Faiz in reference to military dictator Zia-ul-Haq in 1979 and was against the military rule in Pakistan.
The IIT-Kanpur students had taken out a peaceful march on the campus on December 17 in support of the students of Jamia Millia Islamia and during the march the students sang the Faiz poem.

According to IIT deputy director Manindra Agarwal: “In the video, the students are seen reciting the Faiz poem which can also be perceived as being anti-Hindu.”
The IIT faculty member, in his complaint, has alleged that the students made anti-India and communal statements during their demonstration in solidarity with the Jamia students.

The complaint was based on two lines of the poem, which have obviously been misinterpreted—“When all idols will be removed, only Allah’s name will remain.”
The faculty member has stated that “organisers and masterminds must be identified and expelled immediately”.
Fifteen other students have also signed the complaint filed by the professor against the protesting students.

Meanwhile, IIT students have said that the faculty member who lodged the complaint has been banned on a social networking site for posting communal content.
In an article published on the IIT-Kanpur student media portal, the students clarified what exactly happened on the day of protest and how their chant was given a “communal and misleading” turn. They stated that they had recited a few lines of the Faiz poem in reference to the police crackdown on the Jamia students.

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IIT Kanpur panel to decide if Faiz poem is anti-Hindu
Kanpur, January 1 The IIT Kanpur has set up a panel to decide whether the poem ‘Hum dekhenge lazim hai ki hum bhi dekhenge’, penned by Faiz Ahmad Faiz, is anti-Hindu. The panel has been
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Faiz was communist, and his family seems like athiest. That's analogy all he meant in this poem. Nothing to do with religion. I can explain this poem if anybody wants.
 
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2014??? Were we discussing about the year of imposition? I am speaking about forcing your beliefs on us. Weren't we??

camel urineo_O looks like, I've hit your raw nerve...;)
So, how is beef ban a Hindu belief when constitution itself has provisions for it?

haha raw nerve, I'm not the one who invoked beef, cow piss. What happened?
LOL "Bharat Mata ki Jai" was never a problem for a Indian muslim.. Your lot made it an issue in the recent past. Its your imposition which will be resisted. Jamia Millia Islamia was part of Indian freedom struggle, Are the british bootlicking Sanghis paplus going to teach them patriotism??:rofl:
Great. :D Soon you will say Indian Muslims have no problem with Bharat Mata ki jai or vande matharam.
If you wanna say Vande mataram and Bharat mata ki jai, then so be it. Why force others to do the same? We will express our patriotism our way


LOL... Go translate:what::what: How? I can't read/write/understand Bengali, forget about understanding the intricacies of poetic stanzas. Use Google translate? Is that what you are trying to imply?

Anyways I already posted the reason(WITH REFERENCES) why it is opposed, care to read it before making idiotic assumptions.
Nice... Anymore excuses? Just remember it's only a matter of time.

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So, how is beef ban a Hindu belief when constitution itself has provisions for it?

haha raw nerve, I'm not the one who invoked beef, cow piss. What happened?
Is Cow not sacred as per hindu belief?

But I didn't invoke Camel piss, so what made you bring in Camel piss?? Were you trying to get "even"?

Great. :D Soon you will say Indian Muslims have no problem with Bharat Mata ki jai or vande matharam.
As I said previously muslims never had a problem with Bharat Mata ki jai, please feel free to post any credible sources which state that muslims historically had a problem with Bharat Mata ki jai.

LOL.. Keep dreaming about Indian muslims submitting to your whims and fancies. Vande mataram or whatever, Indian muslims will not submit to lowly british bootlickers compromising their religious beliefs...

Nice... Anymore excuses? Just remember it's only a matter of time.

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LOL... Is this your comebacko_O
 
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Is Cow not sacred as per hindu belief?

But I didn't invoke Camel piss, so why made you bring in Camel piss?? Were you trying to get "even"?
Does it matter? I specifically said the reason, you might find a lot of adaptations from Indian belief systems in our constitution it's the culture of this land and our civilization. Why the fuss all of a sudden? You didn't raise issues with these symbolism when we enacted the constitution. Since 2014, you lot are behaving like BJP invented all these laws.

As I said previously muslims never had a problem with Bharat Mata ki jai, please feel free to post any credible sources which state that muslims historically had a problem with Bharat Mata ki jai.

LOL.. Keep dreaming about Indian muslims submitting to your whims and fancies. Vande mataram or whatever, Indian muslims will not submit to lowly british bootlickers compromising their religious beliefs...
Yeah, right after two threads where you said "don't impose Bharat mata ki jai and Vande matharam on us".
muslims never had a problem with Bharat Mata ki jai LOL!
Few weeks later "muslims never had a problem with Vande matharam". :lol:

So, according to you Vande matharam is a song of lowly British Bootlickers. Good to know.

LOL... Is this your comebacko_O
Didn't like it?
 
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Does it matter? I specifically said the reason, you might find a lot of adaptations from Indian belief systems in our constitution it's the culture of this land and our civilization. Why the fuss all of a sudden? You didn't raise issues with these symbolism when we enacted the constitution. Since 2014, you lot are behaving like BJP invented all these laws.
Yes, it does. Its not Indian belief system, its Hindu belief system. You created the fuss, not us. Your lot started lynching muslims in the name of Cow. Did your lot realize that muslims eat beef after 2014? Then why the sudden spurt in attacks relating your Cow maata?

97% cow-related attacks after PM Modi came to power in 2014

Yeah, right after two threads where you said "don't impose Bharat mata ki jai and Vande matharam on us".
muslims never had a problem with Bharat Mata ki jai LOL!
Few weeks later "muslims never had a problem with Vande matharam". :lol:

So, according to you Vande matharam is a song of lowly British Bootlickers. Good to know.
Why are you acting dumb? I said that "We had no problem with Bharat Mata ki jai" and also added that we won't say it at your whims. I hope your comprehension skills are good enough to understand the sentence.

Didn't like it?
It was lame, wasn't expecting it from you... I normally don't engage with the usual idiotic Hindutva trolls who make no sense because I believe that they are not worth my time. I thought you weren't one of them, looks like I am wrong.
 
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It is simply an agitation over a non issue. When did Hindus force Muslims to chant Indian slogan? Rephrase it.

I have read the poem, heard the slogans, seen quite a lot of clips. And I'm glad Islamist hijacked the protests.
Your comment shows the mentality they are fighting against. NRC & CAB are both designed to hurt the Muslim Population in India and you expect them to bend over. If its a non issue then tell us what an issue is? Use google and you will see many time Muslims have been beaten by your brothers for not chanti Bharat matta ki slogan like this.
 
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....... I normally don't engage with the usual idiotic Hindutva trolls who make no sense because I believe that they are not worth my time. I thought you weren't one of them, looks like I am wrong.

This is what they have desired and endeavored for, all along, since centuries and there is hardly any exception, to this effect:

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It is time that Muslims of India realize and recognize this naked fact.
 
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this is good to see support for habib jalib and faiz coming from Pakistan.
 
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Yes, it does. Its not Indian belief system, its Hindu belief system. You created the fuss, not us. Your lot started lynching muslims in the name of Cow. Did your lot realize that muslims eat beef after 2014? Then why the sudden spurt in attacks relating your Cow maata?

97% cow-related attacks after PM Modi came to power in 2014
I said Indian origin (indic) belief system. People created a fuss because of the failure of police and govt to stop these illegal slaughter houses and smugglers and then people started taking law into their own hands. See how many illegal slaughter houses went bust after BJP came into power. Why? Quite right, when govt started enforcing laws, some people started to cry. Cow matha or whoever that be, law of the land should be respected.
Why are you acting dumb? I said that "We had no problem with Bharat Mata ki jai" and also added that we won't say it at your whims. I hope your comprehension skills are good enough to understand the sentence.
I'm not the one acting dumb. Learn to make a point and stick to it. When caught lying don't accuse others of acting dumb coz you have no clue what you're talking about.

First you claimed you can't say Vande matharam as it's idolatory or whatever, which has nothing of such, but started questioning the authenticity of translation. Then you said we are imposing Bharat mata ki jai on you, then you have no problem doing it. Dude what's your problem?

It was lame, wasn't expecting it from you... I normally don't engage with the usual idiotic Hindutva trolls who make no sense because I believe that they are not worth my time. I thought you weren't one of them, looks like I am wrong.
I don't live to impress you. Instead of making a point, doing whataboutery won't get you anywhere. I'm neither of them, never voted for em but sometimes it's better to be them to deal with their alter ego of it.

Owaisi wearing a saffron headgear, playing shameless political joomla proves my point.
 
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