Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[PakSword]

@PakSword aaj Ch nisar ne bhi admit kar liya, press conference main...ke mujhe bataya gaya hai ke dawn leaks ki committee main kuch ikhtelaaf hai...

Main ne abhi ek channel par ticker dekha..

Hahahahahaha @ mujhay bataya gaya hai..

koi hoga jo yahan parh kar gaya ho ga aur uss ne kaan main sargoshi kardi hogi ke Farah Sohail kia discuss kar rahi hain..

Just when I thought I was wrong.. But wait.. Chaudhry Nisar is not a Journalist.. Kia wazeer bhi yahan aatay hain?

Mrc kaheen Talal Chaudhry tou nahi hai?

Just doing what is right!!

@Mrc is one of those reasonable members we have on-board. I was happy when i saw him openly admitting that he was not aware of the law related to burden of proof and also when he mentioned that he have got the point now. Only if more of us can realize that the only positive reason to be here on the forum is the learn something!!

It was a bit surprising when he went the whole way back to the point where it all started. The case and the explanation you made are crystal clear. No ambiguity, no confusion and thus no need to bring is some drug dealer and his father etc!!! The point have been made and understood as confirmed by @Mrc himself so let us all move on.

However if there are any genuine confusion or questions then yes, you can always tag the members here and discuss it will them @Mrc . Just try to avoid going over the same things again and again.

Have a nice day both of you.


P.S. will send my address to you in private message @PakSword

Thank you sir.. When @Mrc said ke he understood the standpoint, I slept peacefully for the first time after so many years.. thinking that I was able to make someone understand my point of view, at least once in my life. But aaj phir der se neend aaye gi! Thanks to Mrc

 

[Farah Sohail]

Hahahahahaha @ mujhay bataya gaya hai..

koi hoga jo yahan parh kar gaya ho ga aur uss ne kaan main sargoshi kardi hogi ke Farah Sohail kia discuss kar rahi hain..

Just when I thought I was wrong.. But wait.. Chaudhry Nisar is not a Journalist.. Kia wazeer bhi yahan aatay hain?

Mrc kaheen Talal Chaudhry tou nahi hai?

Lollll..... Mrc kahin Talal Ch tu nahi...

Waisy chalein...ek baat tu achi hui...ke kisi bhi tarah lekin officially ye baat record par tu aagayi..Ch Nisar ke through, ke committee members main kuch ikhtilaaf hai... Ab govt ke liye matti pao report laana, ya Tariq Fatmi par saara malba daal dena bhtt mushkil hoga...kiun ke agar aisa hua tu log poochein ge..ke kis cheez par ikhtelaaf tha? Aur uska kia hua? Chalein..ek yeh cheez tu achi hui

 

[Imad.Khan]

I m a post grad earning more in a month than many earn in a life time....

I m trying to understand 2 things hereò6

Pakistani nab ordinance...which seems personification of draconian law..

And all the fan fare here

Regards

First of all i didn't ask about your earnings nor do i care, because even a 20 year old kid can make 100 million pkr by selling drugs.

Secondly, from all your previous posts it seems you are more interested in blaming IK for all the ills of the country than actually understanding the laws. I am sure you still think that NS and his family have done nothing wrong and his kids have amassed this huge wealth while they were still in tender age, and they didn't even have to sell drugs.

If you really want to know more about laws, then google is your friend

 

[PakSword]

Lollll..... Mrc kahin Talal Ch tu nahi...

Waisy chalein...ek baat tu achi hui...ke kisi bhi tarah lekin officially ye baat record par tu aagayi..Ch Nisar ke through, ke committee members main kuch ikhtilaaf hai... Ab govt ke liye matti pao report laana, ya Tariq Fatmi par saara malba daal dena bhtt mushkil hoga...kiun ke agar aisa hua tu log poochein ge..ke kis cheez par ikhtelaaf tha? Aur uska kia hua? Chalein..ek yeh cheez tu achi hui

Darmiaan main kuchh ittefaaq hogaya tha.. jab baji london main theen.. Woh wapis aayeen tou phir ikhtelaaf hogaya.. lollll...

Maloom nahi yeh baji ko bulanay ka bahana tha ya kuchh aur..

 

[Arsalan]

Question is genuine... u guys are saying law in pakistan states that u can hang father of culprit with culprit and to top that of its fathers responsibility to provide proofs...

Its absurd and u will see that in supreme court decision...thanks and out

Here are a few quick points:

1. Where have I stated the original question being genuine? It was and that is why it was replied to in the same way.You yourself admitted here on page that you were NOT aware of the law regarding burden of proof and not that it have been made available you get the point
   
2. It is not about what the “we”, that is, “myself” and PakSword “SAY” about the law. It is what the law is. You have been shared the link and you saw it yourself. Nothing You, Me or WE can do about it!
3. This is NOT A TAG TEAM event. There is no WE in it. He, @PakSword is entitled to his own opinion just like you are to yours and i am to mine.
   
4. What the SC decision will be have nothing to do with what the law in question states. Haven't you read it? what is the confusion now?
   
5. regarding the fanfare, people are excited as the future of the nation depends on this decision. Now whether they are wrong is anticipating a pro-Pakistan decision or not is a separate debate but there is not debate about the importance of the decision. (Note that i am not one of those who think NS will be skinned alive in the verdict/NO!! )
   
6. The only REQUEST that i make is once the question have been answered and the confusion have been removed, please do not twist the words to go over the same point over and over again. You have read and understood what the law says in such cases, that is maximum anyone can do for you. Rest is your own personal choice.

As for this "drug case" the burden of proof is on the petitioner. You are comparing apples with oranges!!

Panama case is a money laundering/corruption case. Once the PM's family have admitted that the properties belong to them, the onus is on THEM to provide a clear money trail and provide evidence of legitimacy of this money. AS PER THE RULE SHADE WITH YOUR BY PakSword!!
And NO, Letters from QATAR do not count!!

 

[PakSword]

Main waisay unn dino kafi udaas tha jab thora ittefaaq ki khabrain aarahi theen dawn leaks pe.. lekin Alhamdolillah abhi masla thora terha hai.. in shaa Allah baji London jaegi hamesha ke liey, jaisay Hussain Haqani hamesha US sadhaar gaya.. @Farah Sohail

Here are a few quick points:

1. Where have I stated the original question being genuine? It was and that is why it was replied to in the same way.You yourself admitted here on page that you were NOT aware of the law regarding burden of proof and not that it have been made available you get the point
   
2. It is not about what the “we”, that is, “myself” and PakSword “SAY” about the law. It is what the law is. You have been shared the link and you saw it yourself. Nothing You, Me or WE can do about it!
3. This is NOT A TAG TEAM event. There is no WE in it. He, @PakSword is entitled to his own opinion just like you are to yours and i am to mine.
   
4. What the SC decision will be have nothing to do with what the law in question states. Haven't you read it? what is the confusion now?
   
5. regarding the fanfare, people are excited as the future of the nation depends on this decision. Now whether they are wrong is anticipating a pro-Pakistan decision or not is a separate debate but there is not debate about the importance of the decision.
   
6. The only REQUEST that i make is once the question have been answered and the confusion have been removed, please do not twist the words to go over the same point over and over again. You have read and understood what the law says in such cases, that is maximum anyone can do for you. Rest is your own personal choice.

As for this "drug case" the burden of proof is on the petitioner. You are comparing apples with oranges!!

Panama case is a money laundering/corruption case. Once the PM's family have admitted that the properties belong to them, the onus is on THEM to provide a clear money trail and provide evidence of legitimacy of this money. AS PER THE RULE SHADE WITH YOUR BY PakSword!!
And NO, Letters from QATAR do not count!!

Sir I think he knows the truth.. Now he is calling NAB law as a draconian law. Today I have realized that if it is so difficult to make your point clear to an educated person, how much it would be difficult for everyone of us to explain it to illiterate, villagers who constitute a large percentage of PMLNs supporters.

Maloom nahi next elections main kia hoga..

 

[Guvera]

http://www.supremecourt.gov.pk/links/scl/Supplementary Cause List - 121___[For 17-Mar-17].pdf

Keep an eye on this list frnds.

 

[PakSword]

Kaheen aisa tou nahi aik taraf IK ko chhora aur doosri taraf MNS ko chornay ki tayyari?

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan

Waisay aik ke baad aik faislay MNS ke khilaaf kaisay aanay lagay..

 

[Baghial]

SUPREME COURT RESERVE VERDIT HAS A TIME LIMIT..... ACCORDING TO LAW
MAX 30 DAYS ............. SO IF IT WAS RESERVED ON 23 FEB
THEN THE VERDICT IS DUE BEFORE 25 MARCH......
LETS SEE IF ITS ON 23/24 MARCH
BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE . SC COURT GAVE NS 1 MONTH TIME TO PREPARE , CHANGE. FORGE / MINIPULATE
ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE COMISSION, WHICH BE FORMED AFTER THE VERDICT, GIVEN BY SC
THERE IS NO OTHER REASON FOR THE DELAY,,,,,, WHAT EVER YOU HEAR ABOUT DELAYIED VERDICT, 23 MARCH PARADE , FORIEGN HEADS COMMINING FOR SUMMIT, ETC IS PURE BULLSHIT,
JUSTICE KHOSA SAID HIMSELF 99% OF DOCUMENTS R NOT CONFIRMED DOC
SOO WHT THE FC....U...K. H
HE NEEDS 1 MONTH TO READ 1% OF DOC SUBMITTED...
REMEMBER HE WILL BE NEXT CHIEF JUSTICE
HE IS CONSOLIDATINING HIS POSITION..
IF THE COMMISSION IS FORMED MAYBE THEY SHOULD APPOINT JUSTICE SHAUKAT AZIZ SIDDIQUE TO HEAD IT
...... HE WILL GIVE ALL THE PAKISTANI A SWIFT JUSTICE.

 

[Jzaib]

Oh zombie bhai... meri tarf say goli mar do dealer ko.. us k baap ko kis qanoon k tahat tango gay... just caz ik says so??

Isn't it easy to blame everything on you dead dad . isn't it strange all the money is given to one grand child.

 

[Baghial]

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[Farah Sohail]

Main waisay unn dino kafi udaas tha jab thora ittefaaq ki khabrain aarahi theen dawn leaks pe.. lekin Alhamdolillah abhi masla thora terha hai.. in shaa Allah baji London jaegi hamesha ke liey, jaisay Hussain Haqani hamesha US sadhaar gaya.. @Farah Sohail

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Allah ka shukr...kuch behtari hui... Aur ye beech main kon log thay..jo dawn leaks par ittefaq kar gaye thay? Shukr hai ke ab aisa nahi hai....aur aaj official news bhi aagay, Ch Nisar ke through.... ThankGod

Bas...ek dafa dawn leaks main baji ka naam aajaye...phir InshaAllah...baji ka political career shuru honay se pehlay hi khatam... Ameen... Baji bari khatarnaak hai.. Apnay abba se bhi kaafi hath aagay hai.. Inka political career shuru honay se pehlay khatam hona zuroori tha... Allah ka shukr ke ab aisa hi kuch lag raha hai...

Kaheen aisa tou nahi aik taraf IK ko chhora aur doosri taraf MNS ko chornay ki tayyari?

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan

Waisay aik ke baad aik faislay MNS ke khilaaf kaisay aanay lagay..

Kuch log twitter par bhi yehi discuss karrahay hain ..ke lagta hai ke election commission ne Ik ko chora hai, aur ab MNS ko chornay ki tayyari hai...panama case main...

Agar historically dekha jaye..tu is theory main wazan hai... Lekin mera nahi khyal ke Justice Khosa, aisi kisi deal ka hissa banein ge.... Woh is case ke merit par hi faisla karein ge...aur is bench ke baqi judges bhi... Haan Advocate Ijaz Afzal k baaray main kuch nahi keh sakti..lekin ek akelay unke vote se koi farq nahi parta...

@Baghial i dont think theres any limit in law, of 1 month.....to give detailed verdict... Mera khyal hain ke military courts ke petition wali verdict.....tu kaafi months ke baad aayi thee? Hain na? Kiun @PakSword ? Ya aur kisi ko yaad hai?

 

[IceCold]

Kaheen aisa tou nahi aik taraf IK ko chhora aur doosri taraf MNS ko chornay ki tayyari?


Waisay aik ke baad aik faislay MNS ke khilaaf kaisay aanay lagay..

Election commission is maybe showing that they are being impartial. A week ago IK criticise EC and even threaten to launch a campaign against them, something i remember you referred to as preemptive strike.
Perhaps either it was that or maybe NS ko clean chit dena ki bari ahh gai ha. While IK will declare EC decision as victory, Nawaz will declare SC decision as victory. IMO agar aisa ho gaya to NS ki victory zayda bari ho gi.

Aik or baat yeh Chutia Aziz kis baat per High court yeh High court woh ker raha tha? Kya abb high court ka upper illzam lagana ka mood ha kah woh IK ka saath mil gai ha.

 

[Baghial]

Allah ka shukr...kuch behtari hui... Aur ye beech main kon log thay..jo dawn leaks par ittefaq kar gaye thay? Shukr hai ke ab aisa nahi hai....aur aaj official news bhi aagay, Ch Nisar ke through.... ThankGod

Bas...ek dafa dawn leaks main baji ka naam aajaye...phir InshaAllah...baji ka political career shuru honay se pehlay hi khatam... Ameen... Baji bari khatarnaak hai.. Apnay abba se bhi kaafi hath aagay hai.. Inka political career shuru honay se pehlay khatam hona zuroori tha... Allah ka shukr ke ab aisa hi kuch lag raha hai...




Kuch log twitter par bhi yehi discuss karrahay hain ..ke lagta hai ke election commission ne Ik ko chora hai, aur ab MNS ko chornay ki tayyari hai...panama case main...

Agar historically dekha jaye..tu is theory main wazan hai... Lekin mera nahi khyal ke Justice Khosa, aisi kisi deal ka hissa banein ge.... Woh is case ke merit par hi faisla karein ge...aur is bench ke baqi judges bhi... Haan Advocate Ijaz Afzal k baaray main kuch nahi keh sakti..lekin ek akelay unke vote se koi farq nahi parta...

@Baghial i dont think theres any limit in law, of 1 month.....to give detailed verdict... Mera khyal hain ke military courts ke petition wali verdict.....tu kaafi months ke baad aayi thee? Hain na? Kiun @PakSword ? Ya aur kisi ko yaad hai?

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[Farah Sohail]

Election commission is maybe showing that they are being impartial. A week ago IK criticise EC and even threaten to launch a campaign against them, something i remember you referred to as preemptive strike.
Perhaps either it was that or maybe NS ko clean chit dena ki bari ahh gai ha. While IK will declare EC decision as victory, Nawaz will declare SC decision as victory. IMO agar aisa ho gaya to NS ki victory zayda bari ho gi.

Kherr....itna tu mujhe yaqeen hai ke Justice Khosa aisi kisi deal ka hissa nahi banein ge... He will decide case on merit InshaAllah.. Is verdict main delay tu hosakta hai, lekin Nawaz Sharif ko clean chit nahi milay gi, InshalAllah... Thts not possible

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