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Comparatively Alvi is still delivering but not enough. Revamping team won't help a great deal, IK himself has to take a lead.

As a NATIONAL LEADER he does try. He can only energize the masses with jalsas and make regular trips, which he does.

These people are pathetic. They think that to become a leader you need to come on the TV and make tall claims. They consider themselves equal to IK.

Let us take this thread back to Panama and JIT.
 
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Sorry to rub it in, but this is a reality. Shareefs will not present any case or arguments. They will simply say that we don't have a legal team and had no chance to review the files, we need more time.

Aur judges..is plea ko accept kar lein ge asaani se? Aisy tu ye 1 month maang lein.. I think judges ko bhi pata hoga kal aanay se pehle..ke ye time buy karnay ki koshish karein ge..isliye unhein mentally prepare ho kar aur iska jawab soch kar aana chahye pehle se..
 
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As a NATIONAL LEADER he does try. He can only energize the masses with jalsas and make regular trips, which he does.

These people are pathetic. They think that to become a leader you need to come on the TV and make tall claims. They consider themselves equal to IK.

Let us take this thread back to Panama and JIT.

There's a miscommunication between him and workers at grass root level. Agree let's take the thread back to the topic, we have dedicated threads for political discussions.
 
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JIT Report: Top 10 legal minds on what next
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ISLAMABAD: As the country awaits the result of Joint Investigation Team’s report on the assets of Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif’s family after it has been furnished with the Supreme Court Implementation Bench, senior legal minds differ on the procedure to be adopted next.

Some are of view that the Implementation Bench will examine the JIT report, issue notices to the parties and decide the case, while a few say the report is for the satisfaction of judges only and they can decide on their own after the report comes before them.

Some senior lawyers and legal minds are of view that the Implementation Bench will send the JIT report to the chief justice who will refer it back to the five-member bench of the Panama case to decide the matter.

A few also hold that the CJ can constitute a new bench once the JIT report comes to him or the matter is referred to him.

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Talking to The News about the next process of the case after the JIT report, eminent lawyer and constitutional expert Abid Hassan Manto said it was up to the apex court to decide whether to continue hearing by itself or refer the case to a trial court.

I am not sure about what the Supreme Court decides. It is fully empowered to hear the case by itself or it can even refer it to any accountability or trial court,” he said.

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Salman Akram Raja, Advocate Supreme Court, said the three judges of the Implementation Bench will decide the case.

They can dispose of the case, they can send a reference, they can pass an order, or they can refer the case to the chief justice for further action, he said.

He said a bench of the SC could pass any order. He said the Implementation Bench was a fully-fledged bench of the SC; therefore, it can pass any order and decide the case in hand.

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Senior Advocate Supreme Court Akram Sheikh said the chief Justice of Pakistan had formed the Implementation Bench based on the judgment of 20th April and in all those cases where commissions were formed, the report of the commission was presented to the court and all the parties were issued notices and the report was always subject to cross-examination.

He said the JIT report could be sent to the chief justice who will decide which bench should hear the case and in his opinion the case could not go to the same 5-member bench of the SC because two among them had already opined on the case; therefore, either a new bench or a larger bench would be formed, as it was entirely up to the CJ to decide.

Akram Sheikh said it was the jurisdiction of the chief justice to refer the matter to either the same three judges, or form a new bench to decide the fate of the JIT report.

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Justice (R) Wajiuddin Ahmad explained the procedure that three judges of the five-member bench in Panama Papers case had requested the chief justice to form an implementation bench for their judgment of further probe into the affairs of Sharif family. The CJ formed a three-member bench comprising the same three judges. Now the report would be sent to the chief justice.

“Normally, the CJ has the powers to form benches but in cases where a judgment has already been passed, the CJ has no powers to change the bench; therefore, the CJ is bound to send the JIT report to the five judges of Panama Papers case who had earlier given a verdict on April 20th”, said the retired judge adding, “Those five judges will then decide about the case. Either the two judges who had said that the PM stands disqualified might change their judgement as they would have an option or the three judges who ordered further investigation would take a decision regarding the PM’s disqualification”.

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Senior lawyer and former Attorney General for Pakistan Irfan Qadir said the two judges had given their decision in the case while three had not given any verdict; therefore, when a verdict has not come forth it cannot be implemented. All what is happening is a bench is facilitating an investigation through the JIT because had there been any decision there would have been its execution which is not the case.

He was of the view that the CJ must form a larger bench to decide the matter of disqualification through courts under Article 184(3) of the Constitution.

“The larger bench will have to revisit past precedents where people were disqualified from being MPs through courts while it was not the duty of courts to disqualify an MP and by this way court will purify itself”, the lawyer held.

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SCBA President Rasheed A Rizvi said the three-judge bench was in fact an implementation bench for order of the court passed on 20th April; therefore, after the JIT report all the parties had been issued notices and the issue will again land before the five-member bench to decide the case. Rizvi was of the view that the JIT report will be subject to cross-examination.

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Babar Sattar said the three-member bench of the SC had to determine the fate of the case before them after considering the JIT report and call for objections if anyone had.

He said the original five-member bench of the SC had given its final verdict of which two judges had said that the PM stood disqualified while three ordered a thorough inquiry into the allegations against the PM’s family.

“It was not necessary that the three judges of the Panama Case Bench were to become members of the implementation bench but the chief Justice constituted the bench and included the same three judges in the implementation bench otherwise it’s a whole new bench of the SC whose aim is to implement the judgment of 20th April,” said Babar Sattar.

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Barrister Ali Zafar, senior advocate and ex-president of SCBA, said it was a settled principle that there would not be an immediate decision on the JIT report and on the principle of fair trial replies from the parties had been sought and after those replies a decision would be taken. He mentioned that it may take another 30 days for the bench to pronounce a decision on JIT report.

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Senior Advocate SC Ikram Chaudhry said one thing must be kept in mind that it was an Implementation Bench which was hearing the case; therefore, it has to take a decision on the JIT report.

“There is no need for further trail, as the JIT is working for the satisfaction of three judges who had ordered in April 20 judgment that a further probe is required into Sharif family’s monetary affairs in order to get a clear picture whether the prime minister stands disqualified or not, and if anyone of these judges says that Nawaz Sharif is disqualified, the April 20th Judgement will become 3- 2majoritywith three judges saying PM stands disqualified”, said the senior lawyer.

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Azhar Siddique Advocate Supreme Court said the three-member Implementation Bench will examine the JIT report and could summon the prime minister if necessary and may order his disqualification.

This has been written in the para four of the April 20th judgment that the bench can disqualify the PM if it is satisfied with the JIT’s report. The issue can be referred to the 5-member bench of panama papers case only to the extent of sending a reference against the accused persons.

PML N needs some bad *** Lawyer like Sharif Ud din Peerzada to get them out of trouble.
 
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Comparatively Alvi is still delivering but not enough. Revamping team won't help a great deal, IK himself has to take a lead.


Just last thing on it .......
MQM system at level of unit & sector is pretty much successful ... This will help them to reach at grass root level ... They must try it .......
 
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I don't understand why the media is making such a hoopla about Naz Baluch leaving. I didn't even know who she was before today. She is just a low level political worker who has no standing. I guess the paid media was waiting with desperation to find one news to bad mouth PTI with.
 
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I don't understand why the media is making such a hoopla about Naz Baluch leaving. I didn't even know who she was before today. She is just a low level political worker who has no standing. I guess the paid media was waiting with desperation to find one news to bad mouth PTI with.


Kal 8 bajay sab bhoo jayengay
 
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☆ نوازشریف کے خلاف سازش کرنے والا ایک گھناؤنا کردار بے نقاب ☆

نوازشریف کے خلاف سازش کرنے والا ایک گھناؤنا کردار تو بے نقاب ہوگیا۔ آئیں میں آپکواس کے بارے میں تھوڑا سابتاتے ھیں ۔۔۔

60 کی دہائی میں گورنمنٹ کالج لاہور سے ابتدائی تعلیم حاصل کرنے کے بعد وہ برطانیہ چلا گیا اور وہاں جاکر اپنی مزید تعلیم جاری رکھی۔ پھر وہاں سے فنانشل سیکٹر کا تجربہ حاصل کرنے کے بعد چہرے مبارک پر داڑھی سجائی اور اپنے والد کے کہنے پر اس کے ساتھ سعودی عرب رہنا شروع کردیا۔ وہاں اس نے سعودی عرب میں ایک امریکی بنک میں نوکری شروع کی اور اپنے والد اور اس کے قریبی رشتے داروں کو پرکشش منافع پر انویسٹمنٹ کرنے کا جھانسہ دیا اور ان کی ساری رقم ہتھیا لی۔

اگر رقم صرف والد کی ہوتی تو وہ بے چارہ صبر کرلیتا، لیکن چونکہ آدھے خاندان کا مال لٹ چکا تھا، اس لئے والد نے اپنے بے ایمان بیٹے سے رقم کی واپسی کا مطالبہ کی جو کہ اس نے پورا کرنے سے انکار کردیا۔ مجبوراً اس کے باپ نے 1980 میں سعودی عرب میں اپنے بیٹے پر فراڈ اور جعل سازی کا مقدمہ درج کروا دیا اور اس کے بیٹے کو حوالات میں بند کردیا گیا۔ چونکہ برطانوی پاسپورٹ کا حامل تھا، اس نے حوالات میں بیٹھ کر برطانوی سفارتخانے سے مدد کی اپیل کی، یہ ممالک پاکستانی ریاست کی طرح اپنے شہریوں کو مرنے کیلئے نہیں چھوڑ دیتے، چنانچہ برطانوی سفارتخانے نے وکیل کا بندوبست کیا اور سعودی پولیس کے زریعے اس کے باپ کو سیٹلمنٹ پر مجبور کیا۔ اس سیٹلمنٹ کے زریعے 50 فیصد تک کی رقم کیش کی صورت میں ادا کرکے وہ جیل سے رہا ہوگیا اور پھر سعودی عرب چھوڑ کر غالباً بحرین چلا گیا۔

اس شخص کا سفر یونہی جاری رہا یہاں تک کے 90 کی دہائی میں اسحاق ڈار نواز شریف کا مالی مشیر بن کر منظرعام پر آگیا۔ اسحاق ڈار، اس کا گورنمنٹ کالج کا کلاس فیلو تھا اور جب اسے پتہ چلا کہ اسحاق ڈار اتنا ” کرشماتی ” ہے تو اس نے اسحاق ڈار سے رابطہ کرکے اپنی خدمات پیش کرنے کی آفر کی جو بصد احترام قبول کرلی گئی۔

90 کی دہائی میں اس شخص کے اکاؤنٹس منی لانڈرنگ کیلئے استعمال ہوتے رہے اور 14، 15 کروڑ روپے کی بنک ٹرانزیکشنز کئی مرتبہ اس کے اکاؤنٹ کے زریعے ہوئیں۔ 2000 میں نوازشریف اور اسحاق ڈار جلا وطن ہوکر سعودی عرب چلے گئے اور یہ شخص ان کے ساتھ وہاں جا کر ملا۔ ان تینوں کا گینگ گورنمنٹ کالج کے بعد ایک مرتبہ پھر اکٹھا ہوگیا اور نئے سرے سے کرپشن کے منصوبے بننا شروع ہوئے۔ 2002، 2003، 2005 اور 2007 میں اس شخص کے بنک اکاؤنٹس سے مجموعی طور ڈیڑھ ارب روپے کی ٹرانزیکشنز ہوئیں جو کہ براہ راست نوازشریف کی آفشور کمپنیوں کیلئے ہوئی تھیں۔ 2013 میں نوازشریف وزیراعظم بنا تو پہلی دس سرکاری تقرریوں میں اس شخص کی تقرری بھی شامل تھی۔

اس کا نام سعید احمد ہے جسے نوازشریف نے 2013 میں سٹیٹ بنک جیسے حساس اور اہم ترین فنانشل انسٹیٹیوٹ کا ڈپٹی گورنر بنا دیا۔ جی ہاں، وہ شخص جو 1980 میں اپنے سگے باپ سے مالی فراڈ کرکے جیل کی ہوا کھا چکا تھا، اسے 2013 میں نوازشریف نے پوری قوم کے خزانے کی کنجی سونپ دی۔ 2013 سے لے کر 2017 کے اوائل تک سعید احمد سٹیٹ بنک کا ڈپٹی گورنر رہا اور شریف فیملی کی مالی کرپشن کو بڑھاوا دیتا رہا۔ پھر اس سال کے اوائل میں نوازشریف نے اسے سٹیٹ بنک کے ڈپٹی گورنر کے عہدے سے اٹھا کر سیدھا نیشنل بنک کی صدارت سونپ دی۔ یہ وہی نیشنل بنک ہے جو اثاثوں کے اعتبار سے ایشیا کا غالباً 7 واں بڑا بنک ہے۔ یہ وہی نیشنل بنک ہے جس سے پاکستان کے سیاستدان بشمول شریف فیملی پچھلے 50 برسوں میں ساڑھے 6 کھرب کے قرضے لے کر ہڑپ کرگئے اور وہ قرضے آج بھی ‘ پینڈنگ ‘ لسٹ میں موجود ہیں۔

اگر نوازشریف سعید احمد جیسے شخص کو سٹیٹ بنک اور بعد میں نیشنل بنک کی صدارت دیتا ہے تو اس کی وجہ یہ نہیں سعید احمد کی شکل شاہ رخ خان سے ملتی ہے، بلکہ اس کی وجہ یہ ہے کہ دونوں کی نیت میں ایک جیسا فتور اور حرکتیں ایک جیسی شیطانی ہیں۔ جب اس سعید احمد کو جون کے دوسرے ہفتے میں جے آئی ٹی نے طلب کیا تو اس سے پہلا سوال واجد ضیا نے یہ پوچھا تھا کہ کیا آپ کو کبھی سعودی عرب میں جیل ہوئی؟ اگر ہوئی تو کس جرم میں؟ سعید احمد کے پاؤں کے نیچے سے زمین سرک گئی تھی اور اسے پتہ چل چکا تھا کہ جے آئی ٹی والے اپنا ہوم ورک مکمل کرکے آئے ہیں۔ چارو ناچار اسے اپنے جرم کا اقرار کرنا پڑا۔ اگلا سوال جے آئی ٹی نے یہ پوچھا کہ آپ کے بنک اکاؤنٹس میں جو 15 کروڑ روپے کی ٹرانزیکشنز ہوا کرتی تھیں، ان کا سورس کیا تھا اور وہ کس مقصد کیلئے ہوا کرتی تھیں؟

اب کی بار سعید احمد کے سر پر آسمان بھی گر پڑا۔ جواب تو اس کے پاس کوئی نہ تھا، بس یہی کہہ کر جان چھڑائی کہ اس نے اپنی چیک بکس سائن کرکے اپنے دوستوں کو دی ہوتی تھیں، وہ خود ہی اس کے بنک میں پیسے جمع کروا کر نکلوا لیا کرتے تھے۔ سیعد احمد جب جے آئی ٹی کی تفتیش سے فارغ ہو کر باہر آیا تو سپریم کورٹ کو خط لکھ دیا کہ جے آئی ٹی والوں نے اسے ” ہراساں ” کرنے کی کوشش کی۔ میاں نوازشریف، تم ایک انتہا درجے کے کرپٹ اور ذلیل شخص ہو اور یہی وجہ ہے کہ تم نے اسحاق ڈار اور سعید احمد جیسے سکہ بند چوروں کو ملک کے خزانے کی رکھوالی پر بٹھا رکھا ہے۔ اگر تم جاننا چاہتے ہو کہ تمہارے خلاف سازش کس نے کی تو جان لو کہ یہ سازش کرنے والا کوئی اور نہیں بلکہ تم خود ہو۔ نہ تو قومی خزانہ لوٹتے، نہ اسحاق ڈار اور سعید احمد جیسوں کے زریعے منی لانڈرنگ کرتے اور نہ آج ذلیل و رسوا ہوتے۔

یہ ایک سازش ہی تھی جو نوازشریف نے اپنے خلاف خود کی


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I don't understand why the media is making such a hoopla about Naz Baluch leaving. I didn't even know who she was before today. She is just a low level political worker who has no standing. I guess the paid media was waiting with desperation to find one news to bad mouth PTI with.

One has to say that this is a loss for PTI.
She always came across as a very motivated and energetic person for the cause of people's rights.
Shame that PTI Sindh has lost her due to their pathetic approach.

Aur judges..is plea ko accept kar lein ge asaani se? Aisy tu ye 1 month maang lein.. I think judges ko bhi pata hoga kal aanay se pehle..ke ye time buy karnay ki koshish karein ge..isliye unhein mentally prepare ho kar aur iska jawab soch kar aana chahye pehle se..

@BOLD - This is the real question .. we don't know the answer as yet.
 
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NS official funeral will start from tomorrow. Body will be put for viewing in glass coffin for two weeks before cremation. Big Question, how and when Rasputin of the Time will come under the gallows.
Sind assembly passing the bill " Corruption is Legal", in anticipating of some sort!!!
 
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