Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[PakPak]

Problem is not tht whether IK will actually get disqualified or not? Lets say..other two judges dont disqualify IK..and only CJ does..

Can we imagine its impact? How will PM twist this, to their favor? IK asked for PM's resignation after two judges disqualfied NS.. PTI said two future Chief justices disqualified PM...so he should resign... Imagine, if a sitting CJ disqualifies IK...what will PML N say? E. Sgor hungama ho jayega.. And IK will be in no moral position to go after other corrupts... Sab kahien ge ke ye khud bhi corrupt hai( even if a lie)

I agree 100%.

Its easy to say oh I will take IK's DQ if it means Sharifs will go now, but if IK is DQ it will be a disaster for him and all of us following him. He will lose all moral ground to go after Sharifs, even if its based on a lie. All his political momentum will be gone.

 

[PakSword]

department of Justice UAE has given this letter ... if there would have any transport of scrap even from sharjah ... they would've mentioned it ... why don't pmln bring official letter from UAE gov. for the transfer of scrap from sharjah to jeddah ?? if that actually happened it will be in the record of Sharjah Customs !!

Ports are decentralized operations here in UAE unlike many other countries I believe. So Dubai can only confirm for Dubai port, Sharjah for Sharjah, Abu Dhabi for Abu Dhabi..

If the letter says that no scrap was transported from Dubai to Jeddah, they only confirmed about one port, otherwise, they would have said no scrap was transported from UAE..

 

[Emmie]

One reason for the case dragging out this long is the fact that supreme court and Hanif Abbasi's lawyer have been constantly coming up with new demands. It takes time to retrieve these documents.

The peanut Sheikh can't ask beyond what he has prayed in his petition. IK is facing three different cases before three different benches/commission, so yes, time constraint factor is there.

 

[PakSword]

why don't pmln bring official letter from UAE gov. for the transfer of scrap from sharjah to jeddah ?? if that actually happened it will be in the record of Sharjah Customs !!

But they have given actual transfer document, involving bank guarantee of 650,000 USD. I believe here JIT has made a mistake.. because in the question, they asked only about Dubai, not UAE.

 

[El_Swordsmen]

But they have given actual transfer document, involving bank guarantee of 650,000 USD. I believe here JIT has made a mistake.. because in the question, they asked only about Dubai, not UAE.

i think JIT investigated what PM said in speech ... did nawaz mention dubai or UAE in his parliament speech ??

 

[expert]

i think JIT investigated what PM said in speech ... did nawaz mention dubai or UAE in his parliament speech ??

He said Dubai, but that could have been an innocent mistake.

 

[PakSword]

i think JIT investigated what PM said in speech ... did nawaz mention dubai or UAE in his parliament speech ??

But PM didn't mention the specific port. It is the document that was attached with their responses.

Waisay, JIT completed its report in 60 days, we shouldn't expect that it would be error free. It doesn't matter even if they rebut this argument. Other evidences are quite strong.

 

[Zibago]

 

[Zarvan]

But they have given actual transfer document, involving bank guarantee of 650,000 USD. I believe here JIT has made a mistake.. because in the question, they asked only about Dubai, not UAE.

No mistake questions were sent to UAE Government not Dubai UAE Government responded not Dubai Government

 

[QatariPrince]

Kya yarr!! JIT ki video bhi release ker detay. Monday tak time pass tu ho jata

 

[war&peace]

1)"Dragging" weakens the merits of the case, it's an established fact, a good lawyer will never drag a solid case.
2) It's not an excuse in the books of caselaw, anyone whose assets are beyond his known sources is answerable.
3) True that, for very reasons I said in my previous posts furnishing money trail was not difficult for IK.

1) Court provided NS sufficient time to submit all the documents (if we remember that this case started approximately in Nov 2016) and NS govt even more time with JIT but couldn't avail it since he didn't had the documents except useless letter by Qatari prince.
However, IK has provided them the money trail and his ex-wife was able to find the document so when properties and bank accounts in foreign countries are involved some delays are expected since Pakistani courts and the parties involved do not enjoy the same rights and controls as they have over the Pakistani institutions. This fact is understood by the court and is pretty evident from JIT's efforts on obtaining the documents. JIT was not collecting evidence against NS, they were collecting the missing information and thus they contacted other countries and what they got in return goes against NS for example the document from Dubai's court.

2) I agree and should be investigated but one of the implicit main reasons behind this Panama case was to investigate whether NS has used his official powers to accrue the wealth he has, in addition to money laundering.

Courts have to treat everyone equally and this is the key feature of any fair judicial system.

 

[QatariPrince]

But they have given actual transfer document, involving bank guarantee of 650,000 USD. I believe here JIT has made a mistake.. because in the question, they asked only about Dubai, not UAE.

Route bhi dekhna ho ga

"Sharjah to Dubai to Jeddah" banta hai. Ager separate tha tu Dubai authorities ko bhi Levi pay ki ho gi.

 

[expert]

But PM didn't mention the specific port. It is the document that was attached with their responses.

Waisay, JIT completed its report in 60 days, we shouldn't expect that it would be error free. It doesn't matter even if they rebut this argument. Other evidences are quite strong.

What's stopping the Sharifs from getting evidence from Sharjah to prove the JIT wrong? They'll probably ignore this point because the SC can easily order officials to request the Sharjah Port Authority for a similar record. If it doesn't exist, the Sharifs will be in even more trouble for attempting to frustrate the intentions of the law.

 

[PakSword]

No mistake questions were sent to UAE Government not Dubai UAE Government responded not Dubai Government

Bhai, the nature of question was different. They asked whether any scrap machinery was transferred from Dubai to Jeddah, UAE government checked "Dubai customs" as per the letter and told that there is no such record with "Dubai customs" related to any transfer of machinery between the mills in UAE and Jeddah..

Had they asked about UAE to Saudi Arabia, UAE government would have checked with all states ports and customs authorities. There are seven ports in UAE and each work under the state government.

UAE governance structure is quite different than other countries. Here, a taxi registered in Abu Dhabi can't take passengers from Dubai. When an Abu Dhabi taxi drops someone in Dubai, it has to come without any passenger.. Just giving you an example..

What's stopping the Sharifs from getting evidence from Sharjah to prove the JIT wrong? They'll probably ignore this point because the SC can easily order officials to request the Sharjah Port Authority for a similar record. If it doesn't exist, the Sharifs will be in even more trouble for attempting to frustrate the intentions of the law.

They have already provided the actual record of transfer.. which mentions Sharjah port specifically..

 

[Zarvan]

Bhai, the nature of question was different. They asked whether any scrap machinery was transferred from Dubai to Jeddah, UAE government checked "Dubai customs" as per the letter and told that there is no such record with "Dubai customs" related to any transfer of machinery between the mills in UAE and Jeddah..

Had they asked about UAE to Saudi Arabia, UAE government would have checked with all states ports and customs authorities. There are seven ports in UAE and each work under the state government.

UAE governance structure is quite different than other countries. Here, a taxi registered in Abu Dhabi can't take passengers from Dubai. When an Abu Dhabi taxi drops someone in Dubai, it has to come without any passenger.. Just giving you an example..



They have already provided the actual record of transfer.. which mentions Sharjah port specifically..

Because there port is in Dubai from where they transfer things. When UAE Government responds it's there responds not Dubai response I know there structure is different but when UAE Government responds that answer is from all states not just one.