Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[PakSword]

Upar wala misra elite ke liye...(hint: NRO)
Neechay wala misra aam Pakistanion ke kiye

Upar wala Pakistanion ke liey lagta hai..

Qasoor ki hoor = Baji...

Qaher = current situation..

Lagta hai ke Pakistani awaaz ko FIA, SBP, SECP ke logon ki badduaeein /aah lag gayeen Jab se SC ne JIT ka kaha tha..har koi FIA, SECP aur SBP ke logon ko bol raha tha, ke ye tu govt ke log hain..ye kia karein ge? Sirf MI aur ISI ke logon se kia hoga? Mjority tu civilian instituitions ki hogi, JIT main... Wahan par dissent hoga tu kia hoga?? Sab log becharay SBP, FIA aur SECP walon ko kos rahay thay Aur Allah ki shaan ke aaj yeh din hai ke hum chah rahay hain ke MI aur ISI ke wohi log jo ab panama JIT main hain...woh apni NRO wali karaamat na dikhayein.. Aur woh na hi hon tu acha hai... Ab humari thori bhtt umeedein unhi FIA, SBP aur SECP ke logon se hain..ke shayad wohi kuch kardein Ab FIA. SBP aur SECP ke officials keh rahay honge.. "Hun, maza aaya"

JIT buhat acha kaam kar rahi hai.. jo kuchh unn ke bass main hai.

 

[Farah Sohail]

JIT buhat acha kaam kar rahi hai.. jo kuchh unn ke bass main hai.

Yehi tu main keh rahi hun.. Ke JIT ke FIA, SBP aur SECP ke members se hi umeed hai... Ke wohi kuch kar lein ab.. Aur shayad kar bhi rahay hain.. Lekin mujhe ....seriously...ab JIT main MI aur ISI ke officials se darr lag raha hai ke kab unhein ..apni leadership se koi order aajaye aur woh maan lein? Dua karein ke kahin MI aur ISI officials yahan par dawn leaks ka rule apply karnay ki koshish na kar dein ke after 7 months...keh dein ke matter has been settled..aur IK ko pakro ke us ne Pakistani awaam tak ICIJ ki news pohanchnay se kiun nahi roki?.Woh ab na hi hon is..JIT main tu acha hai....

FIA, SECP aur SBP walon ko kaam karnay dein......... Chand dino main kia se kia hogaya....lol.... kabhi ke din baray..kabhi ki raatein.... Lagta tu yehi ke FIA, SBP aur SECP waalon ki aah lagi hai, loll..ke unki credibility par shak kiya jaaraha tha...aur ab sirf un se hi umeedein hain

 

[PakSword]

Yehi tu main keh rahi hun.. Ke JIT ke FIA, SBP aur SECP ke members se hi umeed hai... Ke wohi kuch kar lein ab.. Aur shayad kar bhi rahay hain.. Lekin mujhe ....seriously...ab JIT main MI aur ISI ke officials se darr lag raha hai ke kab unhein ..apni leadership se koi order aajaye aur woh maan lein? Woh ab na hi hon is..JIT main tu acha hai.... FIA, SECP aur SBP walon ko kaam karnay dein......... Chand dino main kia se kia hogaya....lol.... kabhi ke din baray..kabhi ki raatein.... Lagta tu yehi ke FIA, SBP aur SECP waalon ki aah lagi hai, loll..ke unki credibility par shak kiya jaaraha tha...aur ab sirf un se hi umeedein hain

Aap ko maloom hai na ke Dawn Leaks ki report kyun nahi ayee? Kyun ke Baji ka naam accused ke taur pe inhi do ne dala.. aur woh abb tak maujood hai..

Khair, jamhoori mulk honay ke natay, hamain ummeedain bhi FIA, SECP, and SBP se hi honi chahien.. Aaj jo soch mujh main aur aap main develop horahi hai, yeh ayub khan ke daur se pehlay hi hojani chahiey thi.. jab Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah ko establishment ne Raw ka agent qaraar dia, aur achi khasi awam ne, bajaey iss ke ke Ayub Khan ko latkadetay, uss ko sadar tasleem karlia..

People of a true democratic country expect good from constitutional institutions, rather than Army.. I think there is a major shift in people's institutions after this Dawn Leaks issue, which is the best thing ever happened to Pakistan..

People talk about Bhutto, that he broke our country, in my opinion, this was bound to happen after a field marshal called the sister of the founder of Pakistan, a RAW agent.

Our country is moving in the right direction. Even if this JIT fails, the way it is working (ma shaa Allah), people will start believing more on institutions and believing less on establishment that hasn't delivered in the past..

 

[Farah Sohail]

I think there is a major shift in people's institutions after this Dawn Leaks issue, which is the best thing ever happened to Pakistan..

Yes.. I agree..after dawn leaks..ppl will never trust statements or actions of army.. This is a good thing.... Bas...lekin jab inhein war main public support ki zuroorat paray...for morale boosting...aur woh na milay...aur tab bhi aisy ho jokes banein jaisy last 2 days se...tab bhi yehi kahein..ke matter has been settled....aur acha hua ke public hum se ummeedin nahi lagaatay.. Because this is actually what they want and desire...ye nahi hosakta kr yeh log awaam ko bewaqoof samjhein...aur jab khud zuroorat paray....tab inhein sab kuch apni marzi ke mutabiq mil jaye.....

 

[PakSword]

Yehi tu main keh rahi hun.. Ke JIT ke FIA, SBP aur SECP ke members se hi umeed hai... Ke wohi kuch kar lein ab.. Aur shayad kar bhi rahay hain.. Lekin mujhe ....seriously...ab JIT main MI aur ISI ke officials se darr lag raha hai ke kab unhein ..apni leadership se koi order aajaye aur woh maan lein? Dua karein ke kahin MI aur ISI officials yahan par dawn leaks ka rule apply karnay ki koshish na kar dein ke after 7 months...keh dein ke matter has been settled..aur IK ko pakro ke us ne Pakistani awaam tak ICIJ ki news pohanchnay se kiun nahi roki?.Woh ab na hi hon is..JIT main tu acha hai....

FIA, SECP aur SBP walon ko kaam karnay dein......... Chand dino main kia se kia hogaya....lol.... kabhi ke din baray..kabhi ki raatein.... Lagta tu yehi ke FIA, SBP aur SECP waalon ki aah lagi hai, loll..ke unki credibility par shak kiya jaaraha tha...aur ab sirf un se hi umeedein hain

Inn idaron ko jaan boojh kar tabah kia gaya..

When I started my career in 2003, I got to know there were several people hired in SBP as ADs on the basis of political affiliation in later half of 90s. Out of every 10 fillings of vacant positions, 8-9 were on the basis of political affiliation with either PPPP or PMLN from 1996 - 99. Those people are now occupying key positions.

Unfortunately, here as well, establishment failed to correct the situation and used these people for their own benefit due to their work ethics.. I mean you can't expect integrity and objectivity from a person who is hired on his political affiliation in the first place. And these are the people who change their affiliation to serve every ruling elite to save their own jobs.

So establishment didn't act against them, instead used them from 1999 onward. This JIT is constituted by using those 10-20% people whose integrity can't be challenged. They don't care..

Regarding ISI and MI, as I said earlier, for them "following orders" is most important thing. For them, the integrity and objectivity lies in following orders of superiors. And this is how they have been trained. Otherwise, in a war, they will question every order coming from their commanders and eventually stand on the losing side..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Regarding ISI and MI, as I said earlier, for them "following orders" is most important thing. For them, the integrity and objectivity lies in following orders of superiors. And this is how they have been trained. Otherwise, in a war, they will question every order coming from their commanders and eventually stand on the losing side..

Yeh theek hai.. Na awaam ko aaynda in se koi umeed hogi... Na hi ye kabhi war main awaam se support expect karnay ka haqq rakhein ge....for morale boosting...... Ye acha hi hua ....

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. Abraham Lincoln

 

[PakSword]

Yeh theek hai.. Na awaam ko aaynda in se koi umeed hogi... Na hi ye kabhi awaam se support expect karnay ka haqq rakhein ge... Ye acha hi hua ....

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. Abraham Lincoln

In an ideal situation, Awam ko inn se expectation honi bhi nahi chahiey.. I mean konsa aisa mulk hai jahan Army se expectations hoti hain? Koi aik kamyaab mulk batadain mujhay..

Inn se hamain LoC pe expectations honi chahien.. aur to be honest.. wahan bhi inhain challenge karna chahiey..

Aaj tak Army ne kia deliver kia? Fatima Jinnah ko RAW ka agent prove kardia.. Mulk ko break kar dia.. Apni bases US ko dedin ke parosi mulk pe hamlay karo..

Afghanistan ke aur bhi tou parosi thay.. kisi ne nahi deen bases, hum ne deen.. Kabhi hamaray eastern parosi se tou koi bases mang kar dekhay.. bhalay hum bura bhala kehtay hain unn ko, unn ke jamhoori idaray hum se kaheen ziada mazboot hain..

 

[Farah Sohail]

"Umr e daraaz maang ke laye they 4 din 2 arzoo main kat gaye 2 intezar main"

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This perfectly sums up...situation of Pakistani awaam

 

[PakSword]

@Farah Sohail

We need 10 years of good governance.. and these institutions will be cleansed.. once this is done.. Pakistan will be on the way to reach new heights, which no one has ever thought about..

 

[Farah Sohail]

@Farah Sohail

We need 10 years of good governance.. and these institutions will be cleansed.. once this is done.. Pakistan will be on the way to reach new heights, which no one has ever thought about..

Woh 10 yrs of good governance aanay kon dey ga? Har cheez par tu deal /NRO hojata hai.. Honest logon ko kon aanay dey ga? Corrupt system suits everyone.. With very few exceptions like IK or Justice Khosa and Gulzar, who are ready to challenge the status quo..... Otherwise corrupt system suits every one..

 

[Verve]

If NS gets done in Panama, this thread should be part of that recorded history along with @PakSword and @Farah Sohail

You two are epic!

 

[PakSword]

Woh 10 yrs of good governance aanay kon dey ga? Har cheez par tu deal /NRO hojata hai.. Honest logon ko kon aanay dey ga? Corrupt system suits everyone.. With very few exceptions like IK or Justice Khosa and Gulzar, who are ready to challenge the status quo..... Otherwise corrupt system suits every one..

This JIT and Panama case is the most important in our history.

ISI and MI are only required to provide security cover.. and that's it.. rest others will do..

Justice Gulzar and Khosa has initiated something, which this JIT and monitoring bench need to finish.

If this doesn't happen, say good bye to Pakistan.. Try to leave this country ASAP.. This is the last attempt. Iss ke baad institutions, SC, EC, FIA, SBP, SECP, NAB, Competition Commission, FBR, etc etc.. kisi ko himmat nahi hogi challenge karnay ki..

Agar yeh fail hogaya process, justice Gulzar aur Justice Khosa aur JIT members ko nishaan e ibrat bana dia jaega..

Phir Allah ka qeher kisi bhi waqt nazil hosakta hai, aur Gaihun ke saath ghunn (balkay ghunn ke saath gaihon) bhi pisay ga.. behtar hai ke gaihin patli gali se nikal le..

If NS gets done in Panama, this thread should be part of that recorded history along with @PakSword and @Farah Sohail

You two are epic!

Sir.. yeh sarcastic comment tou nahi tha naa ??

 

[Farah Sohail]

If NS gets done in Panama, this thread should be part of that recorded history along with @PakSword and @Farah Sohail

You two are epic!

Sarcasm? loll

This JIT and Panama case is the most important in our history.

ISI and MI are only required to provide security cover.. and that's it.. rest others will do..

Justice Gulzar and Khosa has initiated something, which this JIT and monitoring bench need to finish.

If this doesn't happen, say good bye to Pakistan.. Try to leave this country ASAP.. This is the last attempt. Iss ke baad institutions, SC, EC, FIA, SBP, SECP, NAB, Competition Commission, FBR, etc etc.. kisi ko himmat nahi hogi challenge karnay ki..

Agar yeh fail hogaya process, justice Gulzar aur Justice Khosa aur JIT members ko nishaan e ibrat bana dia jaega..

Phir Allah ka qeher kisi bhi waqt nazil hosakta hai, aur Gaihun ke saath ghunn (balkay ghunn ke saath gaihon) bhi pisay ga.. behtar hai ke gaihin patli gali se nikal le..

Monitoring bench?? Advocate and pakora judge???

You are right.. If this JIT fails..like ..if .judges still dont vote against NS...phir tu Justice Khosa, Gulzar aur JIT members nishan e ibrat banaa diye jayein ge...

Infact jis din panama ka final verdict aana ho...us din Justice Khosa, aur Gulzar..abroad janay ke liye tickets ki booking karaa kar rakhein.... If final decision is against NS, tickets cancel karaa dein.. Warna chupke se..kisi patli gali se nikal jayein..pehli furst main....warna phir Godfather ke ataab ka nishana bannay ke liye tayyar hojayein (God forbid)

 

[PakSword]

This is epic..



@Farah Sohail @Verve @Dil Pakistan @war&peace @Guvera @El Sidd @El_Swordsmen

This guy is finished...

 

[Verve]

Sir.. yeh sarcastic comment tou nahi tha naa ??

Yaara, I did think of adding the 'no sarcasm' disclaimer ... So, no, yeah, no sarcasm intended