Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[PakSword]

Dil behlanay ko......

Waisy memo gate ka maidan e jang aagaya ab tak ya nahi??

 

[Farah Sohail]

Jaisa main ne bataya tha ke PTI Dawn Leaks ko court le jaegi..

In shaa Allah woh din bhi aaraha hai.. jald.. sab log sabar se next episode ka wait karain..

PTI ab dawn leaks ko court le jaa kar kiya karay gi?....jab action bhi hogaya uss report par....so called.. Memo gate par tu us waqtbke COAS aur DG ISI ka statement aaya tha, SC main..uske baad kuch nahibhua.. Ab tu army bhi settle hochuki hai, dawn leaks main.. PTI ko chahye..atleast ab dawn leaks ke issue par apni energy waste na karein.. Bas Asghar khan case le jaayein court main

Pata nahi...aap kiun hans rahay hain?? Ek serious sawal tha

That was only a topee-drama from day-1. A classic sketch of ISI, nothing more.

What abt Hussain Haqqani's recent confessions in an article in US newspaper? After which DG ISPR tweeted tht stance of Pakistan's state instituitions is vindicated today....

OR
Tht tweet of DG ISPR last month ....in response to Haqqani's article...also stands withdrawn today??

 

[PakSword]

PTI ab dawn leaks ko court le jaa kar kiya karay gi?....

Apni zinnedari poori karaingay.. aur karni chahiey.. PMLN itnay cases khol rahi hai.. inn ko bhi chahiey ke case kholain.. bhalay uss ka nateeja niklay ya na niklay..

Pata nahi...aap kiun hans rahay hain?? Ek serious sawal tha

Jab main aisay hi hansun.. tou samajh jaya karain ke mere paas jawab nahi hai aur yeh bebasi ki hansi hai.. lolll

 

[Farah Sohail]

Jab main aisay hi hansun.. tou samajh jaya karain ke mere paas jawab nahi hai aur yeh bebasi ki hansi hai.. lolll

Waisy aap theek keh rahay hain... Mujhe bhi samajh nahi aaraha..ke aaj hasna hai ya rona hai??

 

[PakSword]

I agree with this but the army is a very large institution. To cascade the strategy from top to bottom requires time and cool heads. Due to so many shahadats in the army there may not be that many cool heads, particularly in the middle to lower grades.

This is my worry. In principle, I agree with both your points.

That was the reason why Army decided to arrest some people... but then, pressure from all sides was put on PA simultaneously..

LoC hot hogaee.. Iran ne dhamki dedi.. Afghanistan ne mahaz khol lia.. GCC se pressure aagaya.. Turkey se aagaya.. phir US..

PA is a disciplined organization.. I don't think ke aisa kuchh hoga.. lekin jo log yeh samajh rahay hain ke DG ISPR ke alfaaz jis main unhon ne hukumat ki tareef ki hai, woh dil se niklay hain, tou yeh inn ki bhool hai.. PA aur PMLN abb kabhi bhi qareeb nahi aasaktay.. jab tak noora zinda hai,, ya Maryam uss ki leader hai.. Haan agar Shahbaz shareef maidan main aata hai tou shayad kuchh hojaey...

Waisy aap theek keh rahay hain... Mujhe bhi samajh nahi aaraha..ke aaj hasna hai ya rona hai??

Aaj jo kuchh bhi hua hai.. Pakistan ke haq main behtar hua hai.. ziada sad honay ki zaroorat nahi...

Mujhay sirf PTI aur IK ki fikar khaey ja rahi hai..

 

[Farah Sohail]

PA is a disciplined organization.. I don't think ke aisa kuchh hoga.. lekin jo log yeh samajh rahay hain ke DG ISPR ke alfaaz jis main unhon ne hukumat ki tareef ki hai, woh dil se niklay hain, tou yeh inn ki bhool hai.. PA aur PMLN abb kabhi bhi qareeb nahi aasaktay.. jab tak noora zinda hai,, ya Maryam uss ki leader hai.. Haan agar Shahbaz shareef maidan main aata hai tou shayad kuchh hojaey...

Jab Kargil ke baad NS aur army qareeb aasaktay hain..tu kuch bhi hosakta hai...

Why are u underestimating Godfather? Atleast i am very much expecting baji maryam as our next PM.. Aaj jo hua hai.....uske baad tu yeh bhtt possible hai... And yes, IK can get disqualified in foreign funding case

 

[Dil Pakistan]

What abt Hussain Haqqani's recent confessions in an article in US newspaper? After which DG ISPR tweeted tht stance of Pakistan's state instituitions is vindicated today....

OR
Tht tweet of DG ISPR last month ....also stands withdrawn today??

You have a valid point but to answer this one must understand that how the intelligence agencies work?

Intelligence agencies often work by setting themselves multiple outcomes - from best; to the least best.
What others see as a failure, or no outcome, for agencies it is a success - i.e., the pre-set objective achieved and target neutralized.

If you look at the whole affair of HH in the context of the above description. you will understand why it was a plot by ISI and what did they achieve.

The plot was to neutralize a dirty and sleazy mole who was sitting in USA and involved in anti-state activities. He could not be killed (even inside Pakistan) or put in jail. Both these outcome would have caused huge uproar (just like Mr Jadev).

Hence, if he is removed, made to look like a devil and cornered he is as good as dead - this is what ISI did.

That was the reason why Army decided to arrest some people... but then, pressure from all sides was put on PA simultaneously..

LoC hot hogaee.. Iran ne dhamki dedi.. Afghanistan ne mahaz khol lia.. GCC se pressure aagaya.. Turkey se aagaya.. phir US..

PA is a disciplined organization.. I don't think ke aisa kuchh hoga.. lekin jo log yeh samajh rahay hain ke DG ISPR ke alfaaz jis main unhon ne hukumat ki tareef ki hai, woh dil se niklay hain, tou yeh inn ki bhool hai.. PA aur PMLN abb kabhi bhi qareeb nahi aasaktay.. jab tak noora zinda hai,, ya Maryam uss ki leader hai.. Haan agar Shahbaz shareef maidan main aata hai tou shayad kuchh hojaey...



Aaj jo kuchh bhi hua hai.. Pakistan ke haq main behtar hua hai.. ziada sad honay ki zaroorat nahi...

Mujhay sirf PTI aur IK ki fikar khaey ja rahi hai..

Which people boss? .... have I missed something?

 

[PakSword]

You have a valid point but to answer this one must understand that how the intelligence agencies work?

Intelligence agencies often work by setting themselves multiple outcomes - from best; to the least best.
What others see as a failure, or no outcome, for agencies it is a success - i.e., the pre-set objective achieved and target neutralized.

If you look at the whole affair of HH in the context of the above description. you will understand why it was a plot by ISI and what did they achieve.

The plot was to neutralize a dirty and sleazy mole who was sitting in USA and involved in anti-state activities. He could not be killed (even inside Pakistan) or put in jail. Both these outcome would have caused huge uproar (just like Mr Jadev).

Hence, if he is removed, made to look like a devil and cornered he is as good as dead - this is what ISI did.



Which people boss? .... have I missed something?

 

[Farah Sohail]

Waisy ..ab JIT se kia expectations hain sab ki?

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Waisy ..ab JIT se kia expectations hain sab ki?

Yehi keh murghi andon per beth gayee hey - abb kuch nikley ga to phir dekhein gey

 

[PakSword]

You have a valid point but to answer this one must understand that how the intelligence agencies work?

Intelligence agencies often work by setting themselves multiple outcomes - from best; to the least best.
What others see as a failure, or no outcome, for agencies it is a success - i.e., the pre-set objective achieved and target neutralized.

If you look at the whole affair of HH in the context of the above description. you will understand why it was a plot by ISI and what did they achieve.

The plot was to neutralize a dirty and sleazy mole who was sitting in USA and involved in anti-state activities. He could not be killed (even inside Pakistan) or put in jail. Both these outcome would have caused huge uproar (just like Mr Jadev).

Hence, if he is removed, made to look like a devil and cornered he is as good as dead - this is what ISI did.



Which people boss? .... have I missed something?

In March/ April, they decided (or not decided, but spread the rumor only) to arrest the people as soon as they are notified on the result of Dawn Leaks commission report..

PMLN/ NS knew about it.. and that's why they tried to punish the people in their own way.. which irked Army.. that how come you punish the people? You just recommend, and identify, rest is on us..

But uss ke baad foreign players maidan main aagaey.. aur PA has to go back to the defensive mode..

Waisy ..ab JIT se kia expectations hain sab ki?

JIT tou 13 questions pe kaam kar rahi hai..

Yeh poochain abb SC se kia ummeedain hain..

SC nahi choray gi NS ko..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Aaj jo kuchh bhi hua hai.. Pakistan ke haq main behtar hua hai.. ziada sad honay ki zaroorat nahi...

Mujhay sirf PTI aur IK ki fikar khaey ja rahi hai..

Last time NRO bhi shayad wasee tar qoumi mafaad main hua tha...

Aaj ek Hadith phir se yaad aarahi hai .... Woh qoumein barbaad hogayeen jo taqatwaron ko chor deti theen aur kamzoron ko saza deti theen (Mafhoom)

 

[PakSword]

Yehi keh murghi andon per beth gayee hey - abb kuch nikley ga to phir dekhein gey

Dawn Leaks ka badla Panama Leaks main bhi tou lia jasakta hai? Ya nahi?

SC ke kandhay pe rakh kar goli chalana...........

 

[Farah Sohail]

Yeh poochain abb SC se kia ummeedain hain..

SC nahi choray gi NS ko..

Abhi tak tu ye bhi clear nahi hai ke Justice Khosa aur Gulzar ke votes vount bhi honge ya nahi? Iss par bhi 2 diff legal views hain..jis ka kal Amir Mateen ne bhi zikr kiya tha, aur abhi tak SC ne clarify nahi kia hai

Agar tu iss 3 member bench ki majority chahye to get NS disqualified ..tu phir bhool jayein

Dawn Leaks ka badla Panama Leaks main bhi tou lia jasakta hai? Ya nahi?

SC ke kandhay pe rakh kar goli chalana...........

Advocate aur pakora ko bhool gaye aap...shayad? Agar bhool gaye tu advocate ki verdict phir se parh kar khud ko yaad dilaa dein.. Kia likha tha advocate ne...ke its not reqd by law..for PM to dosclose assets or the means through which they were acquired? Pakora judge tu legal aur moral honesty main phans gaye..

Jab tak ye clear nahi hoga ke Justice Khosa aur Gulzar ke votes count honge ya nahi?mtab tak kuch nahi kahaa jasakta

 

[PakSword]

Aaj ek Hadith phir se yaad aarahi hai .... Woh qoumein barbaad hogayeen jo taqatwaron ko chor deti theen aur kamzoron ko saza deti theen (Mafhoom)

Nahi chootaingay.. in shaa Allah..

Acha.. let me ask a question..

If you are an Army chief, and you got to know that the PM of your country is going to ask you to sack your major general, on a charge for which you were responsible.. and you hurriedly explore the options:

1 - Ask PM to resign
2 - impose Martial Law
3 - take tweet back and vow to take revenge at a different place

You also know that the purpose of this order from PM is to get a disproportionate reaction from your side.. i.e. 1 or 2.. so that PMs support in public, media and SC increases many folds..

What will you do?