Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[PakSword]

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan @Verve @Realistic Change

Panama JIT to directly question Nawaz Sharif over Ishaq Dar affidavit

ISLAMABAD: The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) of Panama case will directly question Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over the affidavit of Federal Finance Minister Ishaq Dar.

Headed by FIA additional Director General Wajid Zia, the committee reviewed Ishaq Dar’s statement in connection with Hudaibia Paper Mills in today’s meeting held at Judicial Academy and will issue notices to Prime Minister and children after proper scrutiny.

According to Samaa correspondent, the committee will submit its first report on May 21 to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Director Irfan Mangi could not attend the JIT’s second meeting held today as he is abroad. He is expected to arrive back today. –SAMAA

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I think GEM form main aagaya hai..

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@Farah Sohail

Main ne kaha tha naa kafi din pehlay... ke PTI iss case ko follow karegi.. PTI ne kafi arsa pehlay decide kia tha ke Dawn Leaks ko court le ke jaeingay..

 

[Norwegian]

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan @Verve @Realistic Change

Panama JIT to directly question Nawaz Sharif over Ishaq Dar affidavit

ISLAMABAD: The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) of Panama case will directly question Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over the affidavit of Federal Finance Minister Ishaq Dar.

Headed by FIA additional Director General Wajid Zia, the committee reviewed Ishaq Dar’s statement in connection with Hudaibia Paper Mills in today’s meeting held at Judicial Academy and will issue notices to Prime Minister and children after proper scrutiny.

According to Samaa correspondent, the committee will submit its first report on May 21 to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Director Irfan Mangi could not attend the JIT’s second meeting held today as he is abroad. He is expected to arrive back today. –SAMAA

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I think GEM form main aagaya hai..

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@Farah Sohail

Main ne kaha tha naa kafi din pehlay... ke PTI iss case ko follow karegi.. PTI ne kafi arsa pehlay decide kia tha ke Dawn Leaks ko court le ke jaeingay..

End of Nawaz Sharif Kingdom

 

[Arsalan]

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan @Verve @Realistic Change

Panama JIT to directly question Nawaz Sharif over Ishaq Dar affidavit

ISLAMABAD: The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) of Panama case will directly question Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over the affidavit of Federal Finance Minister Ishaq Dar.

Headed by FIA additional Director General Wajid Zia, the committee reviewed Ishaq Dar’s statement in connection with Hudaibia Paper Mills in today’s meeting held at Judicial Academy and will issue notices to Prime Minister and children after proper scrutiny.

According to Samaa correspondent, the committee will submit its first report on May 21 to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Director Irfan Mangi could not attend the JIT’s second meeting held today as he is abroad. He is expected to arrive back today. –SAMAA

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I think GEM form main aagaya hai..

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@Farah Sohail

Main ne kaha tha naa kafi din pehlay... ke PTI iss case ko follow karegi.. PTI ne kafi arsa pehlay decide kia tha ke Dawn Leaks ko court le ke jaeingay..

So as expected, JIT is going to look into matters beyond panama papers! The Hudabiya paper mill case is not directly involved and it getting mentioned here signals a wider net being thrown. I hope this becomes the stepping stone of a monumental decision that will later hold all corrupts accountable, ALL OF THEM!!!

 

[Farah Sohail]

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan @Verve @Realistic Change

Panama JIT to directly question Nawaz Sharif over Ishaq Dar affidavit

ISLAMABAD: The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) of Panama case will directly question Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over the affidavit of Federal Finance Minister Ishaq Dar.

Headed by FIA additional Director General Wajid Zia, the committee reviewed Ishaq Dar’s statement in connection with Hudaibia Paper Mills in today’s meeting held at Judicial Academy and will issue notices to Prime Minister and children after proper scrutiny.

According to Samaa correspondent, the committee will submit its first report on May 21 to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Director Irfan Mangi could not attend the JIT’s second meeting held today as he is abroad. He is expected to arrive back today. –SAMAA

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I think GEM form main aagaya hai..

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@Farah Sohail

Main ne kaha tha naa kafi din pehlay... ke PTI iss case ko follow karegi.. PTI ne kafi arsa pehlay decide kia tha ke Dawn Leaks ko court le ke jaeingay..

Great news regd JIT... Lagta hai ke Ishaq Dar hi Nawaz Sharif ko marwaaye ga... Good... Waisy tu is case ke baad Ishaq dar par bhi dobara cses bannay chahyein ...as Justice Khosa said tht since those challans had been quashed by the LHC, in which Ishaq Dar had acted as a witness, now quashing of those chalanas mean...tht his status as an accused stands revived..

I dont agree with this PTI demand though tht JIT proceedings should be in open.. It should be in camera..because if these proceedings will be in open..thee will be undue pressure from govt side also on these JIT membes and prceedings and I have always noticed tht such inquiries better be in camera...otherwise all such inquiries remain non serious.. This is what I think.. Bas 2weeks ke baad jo report aaye SC main, woh beshak public ho...lekin day to day proceedings open nahi honi chahyein

Regd dawn leaks... Dawn leaks ko tu PTI SC main nahi le kar jaarahi..as per the vid.... Woh tu Asghar khan case aur Osama bin Laden funding wala case le kar jaa rahay hain

 

[Realistic Change]

@Farah Sohail @Arsalan @Verve @Realistic Change

Panama JIT to directly question Nawaz Sharif over Ishaq Dar affidavit

ISLAMABAD: The Joint Investigation Team (JIT) of Panama case will directly question Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over the affidavit of Federal Finance Minister Ishaq Dar.

Headed by FIA additional Director General Wajid Zia, the committee reviewed Ishaq Dar’s statement in connection with Hudaibia Paper Mills in today’s meeting held at Judicial Academy and will issue notices to Prime Minister and children after proper scrutiny.

According to Samaa correspondent, the committee will submit its first report on May 21 to the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Director Irfan Mangi could not attend the JIT’s second meeting held today as he is abroad. He is expected to arrive back today. –SAMAA

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I think GEM form main aagaya hai..

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@Farah Sohail

Main ne kaha tha naa kafi din pehlay... ke PTI iss case ko follow karegi.. PTI ne kafi arsa pehlay decide kia tha ke Dawn Leaks ko court le ke jaeingay..

Shamama Khalid could be questioned as well - and if she is questioned - N$ will have Qatari Doctors certificate this time advising "talking/speaking can kill N$ - N$ is hereby advised to keep his mouth shut - forever"

 

[Mansoon]

So as expected, JIT is going to look into matters beyond panama papers! The Hudabiya paper mill case is not directly involved and it getting mentioned here signals a wider net being thrown. I hope this becomes the stepping stone of a monumental decision that will later hold all corrupts accountable, ALL OF THEM!!!

Of course it is directly involved as it proves NS money laundering

 

[Farah Sohail]

Shamama Khalid could be questioned as well - and if she is questioned - N$ will have Qatari Doctors certificate this time advising "talking/speaking can kill N$ - N$ is hereby advised to keep his mouth shut - forever"

Shamama Khalid?? Who is she?

 

[Realistic Change]

Shamama Khalid?? Who is she?

Wife of Khalid Khawaja - details in this post

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/nawaz-govt-a-security-risk.493960/page-2#post-9456949

Speculating that the "caller guy" was ISI!

I hope now we wont debating based on there speculations. BOL was banned, BOL got clearance from court and BOL is on air again. Pretty obvious how the caller was but nahi, we have to drag in army to make is a "big news"

Of course it is directly involved as it proves NS money laundering

Desperate situation requires desperate measures.

If N$ can drag his marhoom Abba Jee and basically term him money launderer - since there was complete ban on sending money out of Pakistan in ZA Bhutto's Govt., in the era he claimed Mian Sharif transferred money, then what do you expect of N$ - he can fall down to any level to save his black money and ill gotten wealth.

 

[El_Swordsmen]

@Farah Sohail @PakSword @Verve @Realistic Change

NS will be meeting Donald Trump in Saudi arabia according to dr shahid, whom JIT would be questioning when NS wouldn't be in the country .... dawn leaks presser is also postponed .... NS once again on offensive mode !!

PM to attend US-Arab, Islamic Summit in Riyadh
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Published: May 9, 2017
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Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in a meeting with Saudi Arabia's Minister for Information and Culture Dr Awwad Bin Saleh Al-Awwad, who called on the former at the Prime Minister's House in Islamabad on Tuesday, May 9, 2017. PHOTO: RADIO PAKISTAN

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has accepted a Saudi invitation to attend the upcoming US-Arab and Islamic Summit in Riyadh.

The invitation was extended to the prime minister by Saudi Arabia’s King Salman through his Minister for Information and Culture Dr Awwad Bin Saleh Al-Awwad who called on PM Nawaz at the Prime Minister’s House on Tuesday, Radio Pakistan reported.




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According to reports, the conference will also be attended by US President Donald Trump, who will mark his first visit to the Kingdom since he assumed the office as 45th US president in January 2017.

The meeting will focus on ways to enhance the cooperation between the American and the Muslim countries in fight against extremism.

 

[Farah Sohail]

I am watching Klasra's prog right now.. Klasra said tht Wajid Zia's reputation is good..tht he is an honest person, but somebody close to him who has worked with him told me, tht although he is honest..but dont expect any bold step from him... His record in terms of delivery is not tht great..klasra said tht person told me tht keep expectations of bold decision from Wajid Zia only 20%
But Klasra also said tht since bar e suboot is on Sharif family and not JIT...tu Wajid Zia ko itna kuch karna bhi nahi hoga
Waisy...if Wajid Zia and other members of JIT are honest, then atleast itna bhi bhtt hoga tht they wont attest fake and forged documents.. Yeh bhi Nawaz Sharif ke phansnay ke liye bhtt hona chahye..

@PakSword @Realistic Change @El_Swordsmen

Amir Mateen said tht I talked to lawyers and there are clearly two very different opinions on SC monitoring bench... He said some lawyers are of the opinion, tht this monitoring bench is an entirely a new bench and majority of this new 3 member bench will matter, in the final verdict.. Tht is there should be atleast 2-1 against Nawaz Sharif in this new bench to get him disqualified...
While some other lawyers think tht this is an extension of tht old bench and opinion of Justice Khosa and Justice Gulzar will matter and only one more judge is reqd to get NS disqualified...

Amir Mateen says that SC should clarify this point at the earliest....

 

[Farah Sohail]

@PakSword @Realistic Change

Babar Awan told all details of Dawn leaks report in The Reporters prog.. He said tht I have authentic info...it is of 56 pages.....report is divided into 3 parts...in first part.. He told..actually hinted(didnt tell the names ) 4 main culprits /accused mentioned in the report..
1- Zubair Umar
2- Maryam Nawaz
3- Fawad Hasan Fawad
4th name i couldnt guess.. Is he talking abt Absar Alam??? I dont know..

2 additional notes of ISI and MI members

Plus some audio records..
And lastly recommendations

Ab ye samajh nahi aaraha ke in main..Rao Tehseen, Parvez Rasheed, aur Tariq Fatmi kahan fit hotay hain?? Unka naam recommendations main kaisy aagaya? Maybe inhein ye accuse kia gaya ho ke inhein story rukwaani chahye thee..publish honay se..and they failed to perform their duty as per committee members?? Asal action un 4 main culprits ke against propose karna chahye tha..ye story rukwaanay walon par chalay gaye??

Must watch The Reporters.. Hosakta hai ke kuch cheezein jo mujhe samaj nahi aayein..woh baqi logon ko aajaye.. Like i couldnt exactly guess last name

http://www.zemtv.com/2017/05/09/the-reporters-9th-may-2017/.

 

[PakSword]

Regd dawn leaks... Dawn leaks ko tu PTI SC main nahi le kar jaarahi..as per the vid....

Abhi dekhain kia hota hai.. first they will ask the government to publish the report, if government doesn't do it, they will go to court.

If government published incomplete report, they will go to court.

If government changes the nature of incident from national security breach to something else, PTI will go to court.

This is what I have heard.

Klasra said tht Wajid Zia's reputation is good..tht he is an honest person, but somebody close to him who has worked with him told me, tht although he is honest..but dont expect any bold step from him... His record in terms of delivery is not tht great..klasra said tht person told me tht keep expectations of bold decision from Wajid Zia only 20%
But Klasra also said tht since bar e suboot is on Sharif family and not JIT...tu Wajid Zia ko itna kuch karna bhi nahi hoga
Waisy...if Wajid Zia and other members of JIT are honest, then atleast itna bhi bhtt hoga tht they wont attest fake and forged documents.. Yeh bhi Nawaz Sharif ke phansnay ke liye bhtt hona chahye..

Wajid Zia ki bahaduri ke liey sirf itna hi kahunga ke 3 additional directors main se 2 tou chhutti pe chalay gaey thay..

He is not like Shahid Hayat but he is the best candidate available at the Additional director level. I am telling you this because of credible information.

And he doesn't have to take any bold decisions in this case.. he needs to find out answers of 13 questions only.. When they will present themselves in front of monitoring bench, the team will be instructed to take steps, if court thinks something was not done...

Till now, he has taken three bold decisions:

1 - Didn't go on medical leave.. (the other two officers were also honest but couldn't handle the pressure)
2 - He has written to the department yesterday, or day before yesterday, to form a panel of officers to assist him whenever required (for examples, scrutiny of records, or digging up additional information/ data, if required)
3 - He has decided to interview NS on Hudaibiya.. (this decision is the boldest of all).

In BB murder case, he was a Deputy Director, who couldn't get full support of many other departments. The circumstances were quite different.

Hajj scam, he did whatever he could to get the culprits punished. Problem is that, due to our legal system, it is extremely easy for the culprits to runaway due to the "Qanoon e Shahadat". For example, even if Baji is named in Dawn Leaks report, she will get away quite easily because voice recording (without consent of the persons being recorded) can't stand as "acceptable evidence" in our courts.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

@PakSword @Realistic Change

Babar Awan told all details of Dawn leaks report in The Reporters prog.. He said tht I have authentic info...it is of 56 pages.....report is divided into 3 parts...in first part.. He told..actually hinted(didnt tell the names ) 4 main culprits /accused mentioned in the report..
1- Zubair Umar
2- Maryam Nawaz
3- Fawad Hasan Fawad
4th name i couldnt guess.. Is he talking abt Absar Alam??? I dont know..

2 additional notes of ISI and MI members

Plus some audio records..
And lastly recommendations

Ab ye samajh nahi aaraha ke in main..Rao Tehseen, Parvez Rasheed, aur Tariq Fatmi kahan fit hotay hain?? Unka naam recommendations main kaisy aagaya? Maybe inhein ye accuse kia gaya ho ke inhein story rukwaani chahye thee..publish honay se..and they failed to perform their duty as per committee members?? Asal action un 4 main culprits ke against propose karna chahye tha..ye story rukwaanay walon par chalay gaye??

Must watch The Reporters.. Hosakta hai ke kuch cheezein jo mujhe samaj nahi aayein..woh baqi logon ko aajaye.. Like i couldnt exactly guess last name

http://www.zemtv.com/2017/05/09/the-reporters-9th-may-2017/.

Rao Tehseen, Parvez Rasheed, aur Tariq Fatmi are expendibles.

Dunya news saying "next three days are important".

 

[PakSword]

@PakSword @Realistic Change

Babar Awan told all details of Dawn leaks report in The Reporters prog.. He said tht I have authentic info...it is of 56 pages.....report is divided into 3 parts...in first part.. He told..actually hinted(didnt tell the names ) 4 main culprits /accused mentioned in the report..
1- Zubair Umar
2- Maryam Nawaz
3- Fawad Hasan Fawad
4th name i couldnt guess.. Is he talking abt Absar Alam??? I dont know..

2 additional notes of ISI and MI members

Plus some audio records..
And lastly recommendations

Ab ye samajh nahi aaraha ke in main..Rao Tehseen, Parvez Rasheed, aur Tariq Fatmi kahan fit hotay hain?? Unka naam recommendations main kaisy aagaya? Maybe inhein ye accuse kia gaya ho ke inhein story rukwaani chahye thee..publish honay se..and they failed to perform their duty as per committee members?? Asal action un 4 main culprits ke against propose karna chahye tha..ye story rukwaanay walon par chalay gaye??

Must watch The Reporters.. Hosakta hai ke kuch cheezein jo mujhe samaj nahi aayein..woh baqi logon ko aajaye.. Like i couldnt exactly guess last name

http://www.zemtv.com/2017/05/09/the-reporters-9th-may-2017/.

Chalain aaj main aap ko batata hun ke Dawn Leaks ke saath kia kia hota raha hai..

1 - ISI and MI presented everything they had.. and recommended to try the culprits.
2 - In December 2016 or early January 2017, it was decided to not publish the entire report and save Maryam.
3 - Then they decided to not include the evidences in those portions of the report that were being excluded from publishing. (Army was on board)
4 - Then they decided to convert this report from national security breach to an ordinary leak (this is when Army said they don't agree) and Ch. Nisar said there are disagreements. Army decided to arrest people as soon as the report is published. Fawad Hassan Fawad was included as a suspect/ culprit.
5 - Then government decided to keep the report confidential from public view, and issue an executive order to lightly punish few of the culprits. Army wasn't on board. Fawad Hasan Fawad's name was taken out..
6 - Then they did that ... and that too with the signature of FHF
7 - Right now, PA is on step 1.. and step 2 pe janay ki phir se koshishain ho rahi hain.. aur koi baeed nahi ke kal step 2 bhi cross hojaey or 3 hojaey.. Aaj number 1 hai..

Iss liey main iss pe khamosh rehna ziada pasand karta hun ke kab koi zaleel karwaday... kisi ka kuch nahi pata..

 

[Farah Sohail]

Chalain aaj main aap ko batata hun ke Dawn Leaks ke saath kia kia hota raha hai..

1 - ISI and MI presented everything they had.. and recommended to try the culprits.
2 - In December 2016 or early January 2017, it was decided to not publish the entire report and save Maryam.
3 - Then they decided to not include the evidences in those portions of the report that were being excluded from publishing. (Army was on board)
4 - Then they decided to convert this report from national security breach to an ordinary leak (this is when Army said they don't agree) and Ch. Nisar said there are disagreements. Army decided to arrest people as soon as the report is published. Fawad Hassan Fawad was included as a suspect/ culprit.
5 - Then government decided to keep the report confidential from public view, and issue an executive order to lightly punish few of the culprits. Army wasn't on board. Fawad Hasan Fawad's name was taken out..
6 - Then they did that ... and that too with the signature of FHF
7 - Right now, PA is on step 1.. and step 2 pe janay ki phir se koshishain ho rahi hain.. aur koi baeed nahi ke kal step 2 bhi cross hojaey or 3 hojaey.. Aaj number 1 hai..

Iss liey main iss pe khamosh rehna ziada pasand karta hun ke kab koi zaleel karwaday... kisi ka kuch nahi pata..

Step 1 ke baad tu ek se barh ek NRO hi hai.....
Abhi tu govt side se Fwad Hasan Fawad ko World Bank ki posting par bhejnay ki koshish horahi hai..instead of him being tried under army act... Ye tu promotion hogi uski...

Atleast..at minimum whole report should be published... If govt doesnt publish it..army should get whole report leaked..esp MI and ISI notes...through media.. Ye sab se acha kaam hoga.. Punish tu baad ki baat hai..bas pehle ye tu kardein ..

Rao tehseen, Tariq Fatmi aur Parvez Rashid ka kia role hai? Tht they should have stopped the report from getting published? But if news was coming through baji Maryam tu yeh 3 kaisy rukwaatay??

I hope army stays on step 1... Haroon Rashid tu last week keh rahay thay ke sab dawn leaks par maamla phir settle hogaya hai aur last week hi new notification aajayega.. Main ne kaha na..mujhe Haroon Rashid par bhi ab doubt honay laga hai tht he has sympathies with PML N.. Thankgod unki news tu ghalat sabit hui.. Is week bhi abhi tak ne notification nahi aaya,

Bas poori report aajaye pehle kisi tarah.. Bji Maryam ka future career tu phir over...