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Nawaz Sharif is a serious security threat to Pakistan..the sooner people in our power corridors realise this, the better... Our establishment should have realised the extent of Nawaz Sharif's hate for Pakistan, its armed forces, after dawn leaks... However they still seem to be fine, working with him...
As for judges, i think theres a dissent amongst judges, hence the delay in decision being announced
So if their is a dissent, shouldn't than the majority should count? As you stated in previous reply that it appears 3-2. So whichever side those 3 are should matter since they are majority and that decision should matter? I am not sure how law sees this? I mean is it compulsory for all 5 judges to be on the same page?
 
So if their is a dissent, shouldn't than the majority should count? As you stated in previous reply that it appears 3-2. So whichever side those 3 are should matter since they are majority and that decision should matter? I am not sure how law sees this? I mean is it compulsory for all 5 judges to be on the same page?

No.... Its not necessary to have a unanimous decision... Majority votes..is what will count... But since its a high profile case and concern PM's disqualification..maybe thts why...judges want to give a unanimous decision? I dont know... I am assuming tht its being delayed because of dissent..and some analysts are also referring towards it.. But i think, none knows for sure, whats happeneing? Everyone is making assumptions...
 
Arif Hameed Bhatti in today's program "The Reporters" hinted towards dissent in judges...he didnt say it clearly but he hinted towards it.. Something like 3-2.... Aur ye ek judge shayad kisi aur ko apnay saath laanay ki koshish karrahy hain...

when it gets uploaded, must watch first 5-7 minutes program.. Arif Hameed Bhatti ke first question ka reply zuroor dekhein...

Waisy tu..we must take everything related to panama case with a pinch of salt... Kiun ke kisi ko actually kuch nahi pata..ke kia horaha hai? Everyone is making assumptions only.. But the fact tht this decision is being delayed..so much...tu ek possibility hai ke ye baat sach ho bhi sakti hai.. Kuch na kuch tu hai hi, jo faisla itna delay horaha hai


such gibberish talk & false assumptions, all these anchors making false claims on channels for sake of ratings have no idea about a single clause of verdict. After chairman NAB refusal to probe there ain't no divide left in bench. Anyone who thinks that verdict will not be unanimous should read SC remarks of last 3 days of proceeding. All judges are concerned about the future of Pakistan, they will never give a verdict which will give an impression that there is different law for rich & poor in country. Country is in crisis, all we can do is stay positive.

JAHAN ITNA SABAR KIYA HAI BAS KUCH DIN AUR ........ decision will be HISTORIC !!
 
such gibberish talk & false assumptions, all these anchors making false claims on channels for sake of ratings have no idea about a single clause of verdict. After chairman NAB refusal to probe there ain't no divide left in bench. Anyone who thinks that verdict will not be unanimous should read SC remarks of last 3 days of proceeding. All judges are concerned about the future of Pakistan, they will never give a verdict which will give an impression that there is different law for rich & poor in country. Country is in crisis, all we can do is stay positive.

JAHAN ITNA SABAR KIYA HAI BAS KUCH DIN AUR ........ decision will be HISTORIC !!

"Doodh ka jala chhaaj bhi phoonk phoonk ke peeta hai" SC or judiciary ne past main aisa konsa karnama kia hai jis ki wajah se qoom achi umeed rakhay ya positive rahay ? 2013 elections ki bad tareen pre-planned rigging ko apki judiciary ne Intekhabi bay zabtagi or system ke flaws keh kar jaan chura li, kabhi kisi ghareeb or kamzoor ko insaaf mila hai is judiciary se ? in halaat main kon positive reh sakta hai.

Arif Hameed Bhatti in today's program "The Reporters" hinted towards dissent in judges...he didnt say it clearly but he hinted towards it.. Something like 3-2.... Aur ye ek judge shayad kisi aur ko apnay saath laanay ki koshish karrahy hain...

when it gets uploaded, must watch first 5-7 minutes program.. Arif Hameed Bhatti ke first question ka reply zuroor dekhein...

Waisy tu..we must take everything related to panama case with a pinch of salt... Kiun ke kisi ko actually kuch nahi pata..ke kia horaha hai? Everyone is making assumptions only.. But the fact tht this decision is being delayed..so much...tu ek possibility hai ke ye baat sach ho bhi sakti hai.. Kuch na kuch tu hai hi, jo faisla itna delay horaha hai

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Its all guessing game right now, kisi ko kuch idea nahi hai what could be the verdict from larger bench, like i said earlier agar dissenting note ho bhi ek ya 2 judges ka tu it doesn't matter.
 
Intezar tu waqayi..hadd se ziada hochuka hai... :(

Waisy, i think verdict will come by next Friday, tht is 31st March.....
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Phir NEXT Friday!! :P


Jany do gusaa ab ap sb log and sukoon sa batho. Mein tu kahta hoon thread to filhal LOCK ke dea jai!!
 
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Phir NEXT Friday!! :P

Jany do gusaa ab ap sb log and sukoon sa batho. Mein tu kahta hoon thread to filhal LOCK ke dea jai!!

Next friday..is liye..kiun ke ye tu confirm hai ke..is week nahi aaraha...tu next week hi aasakta hai..and i am assuming it will come on Friday...

Waisy waqayi..abb tu hadd hogayi...intezar ki... :(
 
@PakSword @Guvera @Arsalan A reminder of the whole case

Observations, questions, remarks in Panama case

ISLAMABAD: Some rumours are rife about the anxiously awaited verdict in the high-profile Panama case being announced any day. Previously, this paper recounted arguments presented by both counsels of petitioners and respondents.

This time around, we will venture on recollecting scathing question, piercing remarks and insightful observations of Justice Khosa-led five-member Supreme Court bench during the entire course of hearing.

Justice Asif Saeed Khosa who is heading the five-member bench on the very first hearing pointed out that the prime minister hasn’t mentioned Qatari investment in any of his speeches or his reply. He also inquired about the record of Qatari ownership of London flats prior to 2006. “The question before us is of conflict of interest. We have to look into that whenever the PM held public office his business interests grew,” he remarked.

Justice Khosa also wondered that how Sharif family managed to build a factory in Jeddah and from where the funds came. “Prime facie it looks that the flats were purchased from the family investment. How and when offshore companies were built and from where the money came is unknown,” Justice Khosa asked. He also remarked that the question before the bench was not of ownership of London flats but of honesty.

“The matter before us is that whether Nawaz Sharif told the truth before the nation and the court?’ he remarked. Justice Khosa also pressed that PM’s counsel had to tell the court exact share of Nawaz Sharif in the family business. Adding that Sharif family had to tell all that happened before 2006. “PM said that his life is like an open book. It seems that some pages are missing from this open book,” he remarked in a statement.

Justice Khosa put the responsibility of producing money trail squarely on the shoulders of Sharif family and told Advocate Shahid Hamid that confession statement by Ishaq Dar is not a piece of paper but a part of the evidence in Hudaibiya Paper Mills reference. During the hearing, Justice Khosa kept on pointing out the discrepancies and oddities present in the statements of different members of Sharif family.

During the hearing, Justice Ejaz Afzal Khan remarked that the court was neither conducting an inquiry nor a trial. ‘Satisfy the court about the documents,” he said. He also pointed out if NAB has failed to fulfil its duties, the court can issue orders under Article 187. When the question if disputed facts was raised by a respondent’s counsel, he remarked that the court can issue an order on disputed facts. He also wondered how Maryam Nawaz bagged a profit of 19.6 million rupees from selling a BMW car.

Interestingly, Justice Ejaz observed that confession statement of Ishaq Dar in Hudaibiya Paper Mills case can be used against Nawaz Sharif even though Dar became a witness. “You have to prove that properties belong to you and Nawaz Sharif is not the owner of London flats,” he remarked while Salman Akram Raja was arguing on behalf of Hassan and Hussain Nawaz.

Justice Ejaz Afzal also pointed out that still the documents pertaining to agreement between Sharif family and Qatari royal family haven’t surfaced and rued the fact that documents of Minerva Financial services too are missing. “The matter before us is of billions of rupees and you are saying that there are no documents,” he reprimanded Salman Raja.

“How money got transferred to Qatar and Jeddah and where is the bank transaction of it,” asked Justice Sheikh Azmat Saeed on the very first hearing. He remarked that how investment was transferred to Qatar and properties were made in London. “Sharif family has not submitted many documents. If they had filed all the documents, you won’t have a chance to speak,” he reminded Advocate Naeem Bukhari during the hearing.

Justice Sheikh pointed out that someone has to tell that in Al-Taufeeq Bank case who paid 34 million dollars. He reminded the respondent’s counsel that the court has to see whether the case is established through record or not. “There is a contradiction between documents and speech given in the parliament,” he observed. He also demanded that dates of purchase of land and gifts sent by the son are important and asked PM’s counsel to submit details in writing.

“Someone has to answer for the money as record shows that it was not earned through offshore companies,” he remarked. Justice Sheikh observed that the case is whether Maryam Nawaz was a beneficial trustee or not. “We’ll leave but the law will stay. We’ll only see what law says not PM or anyone else,” he remarked. During the fag-end of hearing, Justice Sheikh proclaimed death of NAB. “Yesterday NAB died right before us,” he remarked while terming NAB as PM’s insurance policy.

Justice Ijazul Ahsan remarked that Hussain Nawaz said in an interview that the entire record was available, adding further that whether documents pertaining to Hussain Nawaz available with the court. He reminded Makhdoom Ali Khan, PM’s counsel that the prime minister himself admitted of the Dubai factory and said that the record was available. “Now, the onus of proof lies on you,” he remarked.

Justice Gulzar Ahmed remained relatively silent during the whole proceedings. However, he too pointed out that in Qatari letter there was no mention of ownership of offshore companies. “Prima facie the companies were running in loss, then how a profit of 12 million Dirhams was made,” he inquired during the hearing. “According to PM’s speech, six new factories were built during Bhutto’s regime. Was there still a need to construct a factory in Gulf,” he remarked.

Justice Gulzar also wondered that the record of companies and shares must be present somewhere when Salman Akram Raja told the court that he has produced all the documents before the Bench and remarked that nothing has been done to inquire money laundering.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/03/21/observations-questions-remarks-in-panama-case/



 
Rauf Klasra saying verdict can come from 29th March/next 3-4 days... I think my assumption abt 31st March might come true.. 29th March is Wednesday and 31st is Friday... Zahir hai, Sat/Sunday ko tu nahi aayega... So Friday is most likely
 
Meaning they either know what the decision is or we won't be hearing decision anytime soon. I think it's the former.

We have 2 future Chief Justices (Justice Khosa and Justice Gulzar) in this bench... Agar abhi se itnay high profile case main unhon ne apni credibility kharaab kar li..tu kahan jaayein ge? They wont enjoy any moral high ground when they become Chief Justices... I dont think, they would want to do tht....
Atleast Nawaz Sharif ko clean chit tu nahi milay gi... This much, I am sure
 
We have 2 future Chief Justices (Justice Khosa and Justice Gulzar) in this bench... Agar abhi se itnay high profile case main unhon ne apni credibility kharaab kar li..tu kahan jaayein ge? They wont enjoy any moral high ground when they become Chief Justices... I dont think, they would want to do tht....
Atleast Nawaz Sharif ko clean chit tu nahi milay gi... This much, I am sure

Verdict can come any time after 23rd march, verdict kia hoga kisi ko kuch nahi pata lets just wait few days.

Sharif Family is very calm rn

Its a calmness and peace just before the storm
 
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