Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[Strike!]

Awesome news to wake up to.

 

[Radd-ul-Fasaad]

Great news regarding reopening of Hudabiya case, lets hope NAB doesn't botch up the prosecution.

 

[PakSword]

I think it's not reopening of hudaibiya. NAB is appealing against a decision from HC that hudaibiya reference can't be reopened due to technicalities. If SC now says that hudaibiya can be opened again, NAB will reopen the reference

I think we already know the stance on Justice Khosa on this matter. The other two judges had to be convinced. If they decision comes as 2-1 in favor of not seeing to reopen, hudaibiya will be gone forever. If it allows to reopen, chhota tind and possibly Maryam are gone forever.

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Salik]

I sincerely wish someone take down Sharifs. The more they live and roam freely, the more they do mischiefs. Now they have reached the limit. Let them be happy with the title of 'shaheed' but is there anyone to cut their necks.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Awesome news to wake up to.

What time do you wake up ?

I think it's not reopening of hudaibiya. NAB is appealing against a decision from HC that hudaibiya reference can't be reopened due to technicalities. If SC now says that hudaibiya can be opened again, NAB will reopen the reference

I think we already know the stance on Justice Khosa on this matter. The other two judges had to be convinced. If they decision comes as 2-1 in favor of not seeing to reopen, hudaibiya will be gone forever. If it allows to reopen, chhota tind and possibly Maryam are gone forever.

Correct me if I am wrong.

You are right with one clarification.

The two other judges of the previous (Panama) bench are irrelevant now. Only relevant person of Panama bench is Justice Khosa because he is in this (new) bench as well.

Abb jo bhi danda karna hey inhon ney hi karna hey

 

[Farah Sohail]

I think it's not reopening of hudaibiya. NAB is appealing against a decision from HC that hudaibiya reference can't be reopened due to technicalities. If SC now says that hudaibiya can be opened again, NAB will reopen the reference

I think we already know the stance on Justice Khosa on this matter. The other two judges had to be convinced. If they decision comes as 2-1 in favor of not seeing to reopen, hudaibiya will be gone forever. If it allows to reopen, chhota tind and possibly Maryam are gone forever.

Correct me if I am wrong.

You are right.. its appeal by NAB against LHC decision where it quashed the reference.. plus i dont think SC here will give time reference like 6 months or even monitoring judge for this.. SC did it in panama case because of qamar zaman chaudhary.. now isnce new chairman NAB, i am sure SC will not give any deadline to NAB ... only maximum tht will happen is tht SC allows NAB to reopen the refrence..without any deadline.. otherwise pihr se wohi rona hogake sazish hogayi.. tu ye reference lamba chalta rahay ga..i think more as a pressure tactic only on sharifs..without any solid conclusion

Plus.. i dont know how i feel abt Justice Khosa heading this bench, along with 2 new judges.. onepart of me is happy tht he is heading the bench...but i am sure sharifs will make a big issue out of this.. becausr..in panama case.. justice khosa had clearly written his views on hudaibya tht LHC did wrong by quashing it.. so hr has already given his verdict on this casealready.. ek tarah se sharifs justified honge...inn par aitraz karnay par.. i dont know..woh sirf media par issue banaayein ge ya SC main formally bench ki constituitoin par bhi objection raise karein ge..i think agar sharifs formally in par object kartay hain ya even media main bhi sirf issue banaatay hain tu he should bacck out of this case.. apnay aap ko mushkil main dobara daalnay ki zuroorat nahi hai inhein.. kuin fuzool main phir controversy main parein? Justice Khosa par phir se personal attacks shuru kar dein ge yeh log... is se acha hai ye khud hi bench se nikal jayein...

Justice dost tu waisy ih mujhe bilkol pasand nahi.. justice mazhar alam ko nahi jaanti ke kaisy hain? waisy mera khyal hei ke hudaibya wala case panama implementation bench ko hi jaana chahye tha.. ye log aksar abhi bhi ek bench main hotay hain... wohi3 judges hudaibya case suntay tu joint responsibility hoti...ya tu hudiabya case main saaray judges panama case walay hotay ya koi bhi na hota... justice khosa ko akelay is bench main kiun daal diya...CJ ne?

 

[Arsalan]

What would happen IF a majority of the public sees the trial and its verdict as a manufactured farce?

Despite efforts being made, "here" and elsewhere to fool us regarding that, NO, the majority of public do not see this as a manufactured farce. Sorry.

 

[VCheng]

Despite efforts being made, "here" and elsewhere to fool us regarding that, NO, the majority of public do not see this as a manufactured farce. Sorry.

If the above is true, then why did you say you were troubled by the people not seeing it your way?

The ONLY thing i am troubled with (and you can check my posts throughout the whole saga and ask anyone here who i argued with and was fighting everyone who tend to lose hope) is our PUBLIC. Will the verdict and actions be translated into words that public will get a grip of and then will they UNDERSTAND what it is and then will the ACT based on it!!

It is all in the hands of the public now. It is where it SHOULD be but will be be able to handle it?

 

[Arsalan]

If the above is true, then why did you say you were troubled by the people not seeing it your way?

Because i was and still am trying to build a DISCUSSION here. A rhetorical statement, so people can debate and discuss on it. Just like you posted that smiley! BTW, VERY informative that one

 

[Salik]

Realistically speaking we need a leader who can win the heart of the people and then following him we move to a direction of education and realization may be after that, our next generation will be able to think rationally ...

Leader will come in its due time, we can make an entity that will lead as a leader.

Earth, fire, wind, water, heart.. go planet.

I am Fire.

@Arsalan sir take your choice

 

[PakSword]

If the above is true, then why did you say you were troubled by the people not seeing it your way?

Democracy doesn't mean that corruption cases should also be decided through elections.

 

[VCheng]

Because i was and still am trying to build a DISCUSSION here. A rhetorical statement, so people can debate and discuss on it. Just like you posted that smiley! BTW, VERY informative that one

Exactly what I try to do by creating an opposing view that is necessary for a good discussion.

 

[Zibago]

Exactly what I try to do by creating an opposing view that is necessary for a good discussion.

Yeah we all know how good ALTERNATIVE FACTS are for a healthy political discussion

 

[Arsalan]

Exactly what I try to do by creating an opposing view that is necessary for a good discussion.

Yup!
Always APPRECIATE and you creating that, even when it is out of nothing more often than not.

 

[VCheng]

Yup!
Always APPRECIATE and you creating that, even when it is out of nothing more often than not.

I can only work within the confines of what fragile egos impose here.