Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[El Sidd]

Who are we to call the public utterly confused? May be those that determine such outcomes are ones who are confused.

I am just giving you an observation by looking at the recent polls and the wave as created by the select media. Opinions can turn on a dime in Pakistan as we know so lets see what happens.
A hung parliament is good for democracy as of now rather than the age old one party rule in Pakistan.

 

[fatman17]

Sugar Mills according to @HeraldPakistan
Zardari owns: 17
Sharif brothers: 9
Abbas Sarfaraz: 5
Chaudharys of Gujrat: 4
Jahangir Tareen: 2
Haroon & Hamayun Akhter: 2
Did any of them inherit these mills?
Where did the funds to build them come from?
Conflict of interest? https://t.co/ltumL56tyb

 

[PakSword]

Not only he gave remarks in favor of re opening the case during panama case hearing but he had given his decision in favor of reopenning the case in his detailed panama verdict....

I can't challenge your memory regarding Justice Khosa's remarks/ verdict.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Mujhey lagta hey aaj phir Shareefon kay saath bohat bara haath ho gaya hey. Lekin inhein kuch deyr baad samajh aaye-gee.

If you notice, Justice Khosa did not say a single word last week about the formation of the bench. He was waiting for the Shareefs to take the first shot - which Shareefs did over the weekend.

In this way Justice Khosa also exposed the Shareefs stance on the other two judges. Now Shareefs cannot object on the other two members of this bench.

In addition, Justice Khosa has bowed out quietly and kept his respect intact; but no compromise on the outcome. It doesn't matter if CJ of Pakistan forms a new bench to start hearing from next Monday.

Shareefs buray phansein hein iss bar.

 

[PakSword]

Mujhey lagta hey aaj phir Shareefon kay saath bohat bara haath ho gaya hey. Lekin inhein kuch deyr baad samajh aaye-gee.

If you notice, Justice Khosa did not say a single word last week about the formation of the bench. He was waiting for the Shareefs to take the first shot - which Shareefs did over the weekend.

In this way Justice Khosa also exposed the Shareefs stance on the other two judges. Now Shareefs cannot object on the other two members of this bench.

In addition, Justice Khosa has bowed out quietly and kept his respect intact; but no compromise on the outcome. It doesn't matter if CJ of Pakistan forms a new bench to start hearing from next Monday.

Shareefs buray phansein hein iss bar.

Shareefon ke saath daily basis pe haath horahay hain aaj kal...

 

[VCheng]

I am just giving you an observation by looking at the recent polls and the wave as created by the select media. Opinions can turn on a dime in Pakistan as we know so lets see what happens.
A hung parliament is good for democracy as of now rather than the age old one party rule in Pakistan.

Do you think the Panama verdict is turning public opinion against the Sharif as much as is being portrayed here so as to defeat them in the next elections?

 

[Shane]

what ????

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I don’t like this news. I truly wanted him to be the part of the bench.

But maybe that’s their planning. I’m confused.

It was expected. Let other judges also decide against Shareefs..

Was discussing the same with @Farah Sohail , it might just turn out to be a blessing in disguise even after Justice Khosa has withdrawn. Let other judges decide in Sharifs cases.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pana...ion-and-updates.510272/page-279#post-10011249

 

[El Sidd]

Do you think the Panama verdict is turning public opinion against the Sharif as much as is being portrayed here so as to defeat them in the next elections?

Hard to say.
Opinion change quickly here in Pakistan and I am more or less certain come elections, Panama verdict will not be a draw for vote anyhow by anyone.
Had 2013 elections held over facebook twitter or any other social media, Imran Khan would be President of Pakistan by now.
That is the beauty of Pakistani public that they live in a realistic world and not a virtual one when it comes to actual decision making.

 

[Shane]

Do you think the Panama verdict is turning public opinion against the Sharif as much as is being portrayed here so as to defeat them in the next elections?

Should be Irrelevant according to your own opinion since Sharifs were planted politicians to start with so whatever happens to them should be your least concern and yet we find you worried about them in every other post.

Hmmm... tu wohi hua..jo main expect karrahi thee...

Main ne kaha tha na ke panama verdict main woh hudaibya par verdict de chukay hain... ab wohi case unke pass aajaye tu theek nahi aur sharifs ka objection ..is dafa valid hai...

Inhon ne bhi panama verdict ka hi reference diya..ke main ..hudaibya par verdict de chuka hoon... main bhi yehi keh rahi thee...

Spot on.

 

[VCheng]

Hard to say.
Opinion change quickly here in Pakistan and I am more or less certain come elections, Panama verdict will not be a draw for vote anyhow by anyone.
Had 2013 elections held over facebook twitter or any other social media, Imran Khan would be President of Pakistan by now.
That is the beauty of Pakistani public that they live in a realistic world and not a virtual one when it comes to actual decision making.

So are you saying that we should respect the opinion of the public as expressed in the elections?

 

[El Sidd]

So are you saying that we should respect the opinion of the public as expressed in the elections?

of course.
Every opinion must be respected and furthermore the consensus not only respected but implemented as well.

 

[PakSword]

For the first time in the history of Pakistan, military establishment is keeping itself away from the court affairs, and letting the relevant institutions perform their constitutional duties without pushing them.. still some people have a problem with this..

These democracy lovers want that even if a president and prime minister are caught killing someone, their cases should be decided through elections.

Democracy lovers don't know that true democracy doesn't revolve around specific individuals, and if an individual, regardless of his popularity, is a criminal, he should be tried in a court.

If courts decide that he be thrown in a jail, then he should be put behind bars even if he is still popular.

But the agenda here is different I can see, specially those who are brown foreigners in land of white..... they think of Pakistanis as somewhat inferior to them. They want to flip the rules entirely and want us to believe that what flip side they are advocating is actually not practiced in their host country..

Hypocrites...

 

[VCheng]

of course.
Every opinion must be respected and furthermore the consensus not only respected but implemented as well.

Does that apply to the last election as well? And will it be accepted if PML-N is again the majority party in the next elections despite the Panama verdict?

 

[Farah Sohail]

I can't challenge your memory regarding Justice Khosa's remarks/ verdict.

Loll..
I think..kisi ne inka verdict itni dafa nahi parha..jitna main ne.. is wajah se aksar meri memory saath de deti hai...inke verdict ke baaray main..

Waisy..ye benches kon banaata hai? CJ ya registrar? Aaj inhon ne kaha ke lagta hai ke registrar office ne mera verdict nahi parha..is liye ghalti se ye case mere saamnay lagaa diya.. ? Does registrat make benches on his own? Ya CJ banaatay hain? Registrar ko kiun bola inhon ne?

 

[PakSword]

Loll..
I think..kisi ne inka verdict itni dafa nahi parha..jitna main ne.. is wajah se aksar meri memory saath de deti hai...inke verdict ke baaray main..

Waisy..ye benches kon banaata hai? CJ ya registrar? Aaj inhon ne kaha ke lagta hai ke registrar office ne mera verdict nahi parha..is liye ghalti se ye case mere saamnay lagaa diya.. ? Does registrat make benches on his own? Ya CJ banaatay hain? Registrar ko kiun bola inhon ne?

CJ Banatay hain... I don't know why he referred to registrar...