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Kahin se urti urti news laayein..ke kia hua tha? What happened jis wajah se unhon ne resignation ka socha??

Hahaha..

Sachi baat hai, main ne yeh maloom karnay ki koshish hi nahi ki.. agar kuchh pata chala tou bataunga..

Waisay aap ko yaad hai ke aisi koi news break huee thi jis main aik sahafi ne kisi aik judge se sawal kia tha ke aap ne inhain mana lia hai and then Justice Aijaz Afzal ne ghoori mari thi uss sahafi ko ke usay wahan se bhagna para tha.. mujhay yeh unhi dino ki baat lagti hai.. hosakta hai ke Justice Aijaz Afzal ne manaya ho..

Waisay jis qisam ka cartoon character hai woh, ummeed tou nahi hai aisa karega..
 
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If probe of Panama Leak doesn't lead to disqualification of Nawaz Sharif, the burden of not giving justice would be on Supreme Court of Pakistan. They had their chance to make history and they didn't. They had their chance to take country out of corruption and they didn't.
 
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Hahaha..

Waisay aap ko yaad hai ke aisi koi news break huee thi jis main aik sahafi ne kisi aik judge se sawal kia tha ke aap ne inhain mana lia hai and then Justice Aijaz Afzal ne ghoori mari thi uss sahafi ko ke usay wahan se bhagna para tha.. mujhay yeh unhi dino ki baat lagti hai.. hosakta hai ke Justice Aijaz Afzal ne manaya ho..

Waisay jis qisam ka cartoon character hai woh, ummeed tou nahi hai aisa karega..

@bold... Main samjhi nahi..aap kia keh rahay hain..ke Ijaz Afzal ne kisay manayaa ho? Woh sahaafi ne tu Justice Khosa se...poocha tha ke kia aap ne advocate ko manaa liya hai decision par? Hsakta hai ke split ki news tab aarahi ho..esp....judges ke remarks ..hearing ke dauran se bhi evident tha..ke judges main split hogi.... Tu woh Justice Khosa ae pooch rahay thay ke aap ne advocate ko manaa liya hai?

Tu decision se pata chala ke Justice Khosa nahi manaa sakay..

Lekin Advocate ne kis ko manaaya ho? Aap keh rahay hain ke Advocate ne doosray judges ko apnay decision ke liye manaa liya ho..tab Justice Khosa ne resign karnay ka socha hoga???


Aur waisy bhi us dinner main journalists ki baaton se tu laisa hi lagg raha tha ke Justice Khosa achay mood main hain.. Unhon ne date bhi di thee... Mid april ki... Mujhe lagta hai ke baad main kuch hua hoga...

Asal Cartoon character tu pakora judge hai, waisy.
 
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@bold... Main samjhi nahi..aap kia keh rahay hain..ke Ijaz Afzal ne kisay manayaa ho? Woh sahaafi ne tu Justice Khosa se...poocha tha ke kia aap ne advocate ko manaa liya hai decision par? Hsakta hai ke split ki news tab aarahi ho..esp....judges ke remarks ..hearing ke dauran se bhi evident tha..ke judges main split hogi.... Tu woh Justice Khosa ae pooch rahay thay ke aap ne advocate ko manaa liya hai?

Tu decision se pata chala ke Justice Khosa nahi manaa sakay..

Lekin Advocate ne kis ko manaaya ho? Aap keh rahay hain ke Advocate ne doosray judges ko apnay decision ke liye manaa liya ho..tab Justice Khosa ne resign karnay ka socha hoga???

Cartoon character tu pakora judge hai, waisy.

Nahi main yeh keh raha hun ke shayad yeh mananay wali khabar ghalat nashar huee ho.. Actually Sahafi ne Advocate se sawal kia ho ke aap ne manalia.. hosakta hai woh resignation ki soch wapis lene wali baat ho..

Anyway, advocate se aisi ummeed tou nahi hai..
 
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Nahi main yeh keh raha hun ke shayad yeh mananay wali khabar ghalat nashar huee ho.. Actually Sahafi ne Advocate se sawal kia ho ke aap ne manalia.. hosakta hai woh resignation ki soch wapis lene wali baat ho..

Anyway, advocate se aisi ummeed tou nahi hai..

Mera khyal ye hai..resignation ka faisla wapis lenay ka iraada..purely unka apna hoga.. Kisi ke kehnay se nahi peechay hatein honge.. Mujhe tu lagta hai ke ye soch kar wapis liya hoga..ke agar is waqt unhon ne resignation de diya..tu unki apni credibility doubtful hojayegi... Aur log yehi kahien ge ke Nawaz Sharif se NRO ya deal kar li.. Ek dafa pehle bhi SC ne poora case sunn kar dissolve kar diya tha..bench.......phir pakora ki bemari aagayi..tu phir agar woh resign kar ddete tu log yehi kehtay ke un main NS k against faisla karnay ki himmat nahi hai..inhon ne NRO kar liya... Tu unki apni credibility doubtful na ho...is liye unhon ne shayad resignation ki soch wapis li hogi..mera khyal hai..
Lekin phir wohi baat ..ke aisa hua kia..jo resign ka khyal aaya unhein? Allah karay koi journalist hi bataa dey.. Reporters zuroor dekhun gi aaj main.. Dekhtay hain Arif hameed bhatti ke pass..unke resignation ke baaray main koi news hai ya nahi??
 
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Wesay ab behtar yehi hoga ke is poray Panama Judgement episode + JIT ki findings pe fateha parh li jaye, is main se ab kuch nahi nikalnay wala.
@PakSword @Farah Sohail

Waqayi ... Lagta tu yehi hai...

Ab ISPR ki comedy bhi dekh lein... In par bhi wohi baat fit hoti hai... Ke Baatein croron ki....dukan pakoron ki

Ab CCC main keh rahay hain ke JIT main their instituitions will fulfil their role in a legal and transparent manner... Koi inn se poochay..ke uncle...dawn leaks main aisa kiun nahi kiya aap ne? Jab aap ne khud breach of national security kaha tha... Wh tu purely aap ka issue tha...Uss main tu aap ke members ne compromise kar liya govt se...aur yahan aap keh rahay hain..will fulfil duty in legal and transparent manner???? CCC main panama ka tu zikr kar liya...zara dawn leaks par bhi kuch irshad kartay...??? Wahan aap chahtay hian ke awaam bhool jaye...usay @PakSword

tu panama ki JIT main..kaisy aap par bharosa kar lein???
 
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Wesay ab behtar yehi hoga ke is poray Panama Judgement episode + JIT ki findings pe fateha parh li jaye, is main se ab kuch nahi nikalnay wala.
@PakSword @Farah Sohail

@Farah Sohail

Agar institutions azad hoteen tou yeh faisla buhat acha tha.. isi liey shayad 2 judges ne socha ke investigation kia khaak honi hai, abhi disqualify kardo..

Warna yeh faisla agar Kenya main bhi aata tou acha faisla kehlata...

Abhi kuchh mood theek karnay ka dil chah raha hai.. lets enjoy the jokes people are coming up with..
 
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@PakSword Nice to know your views and even better to know that you are finding your feet again. We need this for coming days.

I agree to the points that you mentioned, the points mentioned in that column in BBC you referred me to. I mean, there is no denying that this is a possibility. However, please note that there Is a very very important factor that these things are missing. PTI. You do not expect Imran Khan to sit back and relax while JIT is formed and filled with pro-NS elements. To be honest, I do not see even SC doing that. For me, the verdict is a very carefully drafted one. As you said, if it had suspended NS it would have been a reason for him to cry foul. To play victim, AGAIN plus it was not really within SC authority to five such a decision, that would have looked all wrong and messy and would have created a lot of trouble, all for nothing as any acting PM would have carried forward the agenda of NS anyway. A suspension was more of a “feel good” value than any practical value. So in this case, what else were we expecting?

There were talks of a commission, a possibility that we discussed for weeks. The JIT though is quite different but it have been presented with some straight forward questions and have been given some pretty obvious points to work on. Yes the court could have answered all that itself but what then? What should it have done then because as we mention, suspension would have been of little good practically. So the right way would be, for me, to take the whole system apart and that can be done slowly and following all legal steps to avoid any foul play and anarchy.

So yes, while I do agree that asking the institution that have been ridiculed and mentioned as incompetent by the same judges to investigate the matter further do not makes much sense, I cannot see any other way either. Also with PTI being a continuous hanging sword and always pushing for this matter, there is less and less chances of any foul play here. As you have said, one institution have appointed a person who can be termed the best man for this job. The other guy who is pro-NS may not be approved by SC in first place and on the other hand, Imran Khan will be keeping an eye on it as well.

What is also relevant here is that with two judges going a step ahead of suspension and asking for DISQUALIFICATION, the petitioners will now have a point to make and ask for NS to resign. All these things will keep the matter in limelight and more and more people will understand what have happened.

My request to you and to everyone else is just not to lose hope, not yet, PLEASE. That is EXACTLY what PMLN want you to do. Why else do you think they would be claiming this decision a victory. Even if it favors NS it is not a victory and it do not favors NS either. However PMLN went so far as to claim this as a “clean chit” and that SC have declared NS sadiq and amin (which is absolutely not the case here). The only thing they can achieve from all that propaganda is to kill the hope of the nation, to kill the energy and the issue. That is what WE SHOULD NOT allow to happen.


NS have been declared dishonest and a thief by two judges,

The remaining three have asked for further investigation (not a single judge stating him innocent)


That is what the verdict is and that is how we should take and forward it.

Thank you @Farah Sohail for your input, energetic as always. Just stay positive. That is what THEY want to take away from this nation.

EVERYONE ELSE TOO. Thank you for your kind feedback. I will explain the reason of this thread in a later post shortly.
 
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@Farah Sohail

Agar institutions azad hoteen tou yeh faisla buhat acha tha.. isi liey shayad 2 judges ne socha ke investigation kia khaak honi hai, abhi disqualify kardo..

Warna yeh faisla agar Kenya main bhi aata tou acha faisla kehlata...

Abhi kuchh mood theek karnay ka dil chah raha hai.. lets enjoy the jokes people are coming up with..

Lollll...at this hall of fame :lol::lol::lol:

Waqayi..ye faisla kisi aur mulk main aata tu acha faisla hota..

Lekin jab judges khud keh rahay hain ke instituitions azaad nahi hain..unhon ne kuch nahi kiya...t phir unki hi JIT banaa di??? :( :( :( does it make ANY sense?
 
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@PakSword Nice to know your views and even better to know that you are finding your feet again. We need this for coming days.

I agree to the points that you mentioned, the points mentioned in that column in BBC you referred me to. I mean, there is no denying that this is a possibility. However, please note that there Is a very very important factor that these things are missing. PTI. You do not expect Imran Khan to sit back and relax while JIT is formed and filled with pro-NS elements. To be honest, I do not see even SC doing that. For me, the verdict is a very carefully drafted one. As you said, if it had suspended NS it would have been a reason for him to cry foul. To play victim, AGAIN plus it was not really within SC authority to five such a decision, that would have looked all wrong and messy and would have created a lot of trouble, all for nothing as any acting PM would have carried forward the agenda of NS anyway. A suspension was more of a “feel good” value than any practical value. So in this case, what else were we expecting?

There were talks of a commission, a possibility that we discussed for weeks. The JIT though is quite different but it have been presented with some straight forward questions and have been given some pretty obvious points to work on. Yes the court could have answered all that itself but what then? What should it have done then because as we mention, suspension would have been of little good practically. So the right way would be, for me, to take the whole system apart and that can be done slowly and following all legal steps to avoid any foul play and anarchy.

So yes, while I do agree that asking the institution that have been ridiculed and mentioned as incompetent by the same judges to investigate the matter further do not makes much sense, I cannot see any other way either. Also with PTI being a continuous hanging sword and always pushing for this matter, there is less and less chances of any foul play here. As you have said, one institution have appointed a person who can be termed the best man for this job. The other guy who is pro-NS may not be approved by SC in first place and on the other hand, Imran Khan will be keeping an eye on it as well.

What is also relevant here is that with two judges going a step ahead of suspension and asking for DISQUALIFICATION, the petitioners will now have a point to make and ask for NS to resign. All these things will keep the matter in limelight and more and more people will understand what have happened.

My request to you and to everyone else is just not to lose hope, not yet, PLEASE. That is EXACTLY what PMLN want you to do. Why else do you think they would be claiming this decision a victory. Even if it favors NS it is not a victory and it do not favors NS either. However PMLN went so far as to claim this as a “clean chit” and that SC have declared NS sadiq and amin (which is absolutely not the case here). The only thing they can achieve from all that propaganda is to kill the hope of the nation, to kill the energy and the issue. That is what WE SHOULD NOT allow to happen.


NS have been declared dishonest and a thief by two judges,

The remaining three have asked for further investigation (not a single judge stating him innocent)


That is what the verdict is and that is how we should take and forward it.

Thank you @Farah Sohail for your input, energetic as always. Just stay positive. That is what THEY want to take away from this nation.

Bhii wahh MashaAllah !! main kia Tea Biscoot bech raha thaa is poray thread main :s
 
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Waqayi ... Lagta tu yehi hai...

Ab ISPR ki comedy bhi dekh lein... In par bhi wohi baat fit hoti hai... Ke Baatein croron ki....dukan pakoron ki

Ab CCC main keh rahay hain ke JIT main their instituitions will fulfil their role in a legal and transparent manner... Koi inn se poochay..ke uncle...dawn leaks main aisa kiun nahi kiya aap ne? Jab aap ne khud breach of national security kaha tha... Wh tu purely aap ka issue tha...Uss main tu aap ke members ne compromise kar liya govt se...aur yahan aap keh rahay hain..will fulfil duty in legal and transparent manner???? CCC main panama ka tu zikr kar liya...zara dawn leaks par bhi kuch irshad kartay...??? Wahan aap chahtay hian ke awaam bhool jaye...usay @PakSword

tu panama ki JIT main..kaisy aap par bharosa kar lein???

Waisay @Farah Sohail

I am still not believing what's being reported on media... and what has been said by Mr. Takla aka wig wala aka Ch. Nisar..

I fail to understand ke aik week main aisa kia hogaya.. kia yeh andon aur jadoogaron ka kamal hai? lolll.

Koi new report bhi nahi mili abhi tak.. main sirf aur sirf anchors ko dekh kar hairan hun.. aur pareshan bhi..

Khair dekhtay hain kia hota hai..

Baatein croron ki....dukan pakoron ki

Arz kia hai

باتیں کروڑوں کی
دکان پکوڑوں کی

بینچ چھچھوروں کی
فقیر لکیروں کی

بچت لٹیروں کی
گھڑت فقیروں کی

باتیں کروڑوں کی
دکان پکوڑوں کی


@PakSword Nice to know your views and even better to know that you are finding your feet again. We need this for coming days.

I agree to the points that you mentioned, the points mentioned in that column in BBC you referred me to. I mean, there is no denying that this is a possibility. However, please note that there Is a very very important factor that these things are missing. PTI. You do not expect Imran Khan to sit back and relax while JIT is formed and filled with pro-NS elements. To be honest, I do not see even SC doing that. For me, the verdict is a very carefully drafted one. As you said, if it had suspended NS it would have been a reason for him to cry foul. To play victim, AGAIN plus it was not really within SC authority to five such a decision, that would have looked all wrong and messy and would have created a lot of trouble, all for nothing as any acting PM would have carried forward the agenda of NS anyway. A suspension was more of a “feel good” value than any practical value. So in this case, what else were we expecting?

There were talks of a commission, a possibility that we discussed for weeks. The JIT though is quite different but it have been presented with some straight forward questions and have been given some pretty obvious points to work on. Yes the court could have answered all that itself but what then? What should it have done then because as we mention, suspension would have been of little good practically. So the right way would be, for me, to take the whole system apart and that can be done slowly and following all legal steps to avoid any foul play and anarchy.

So yes, while I do agree that asking the institution that have been ridiculed and mentioned as incompetent by the same judges to investigate the matter further do not makes much sense, I cannot see any other way either. Also with PTI being a continuous hanging sword and always pushing for this matter, there is less and less chances of any foul play here. As you have said, one institution have appointed a person who can be termed the best man for this job. The other guy who is pro-NS may not be approved by SC in first place and on the other hand, Imran Khan will be keeping an eye on it as well.

What is also relevant here is that with two judges going a step ahead of suspension and asking for DISQUALIFICATION, the petitioners will now have a point to make and ask for NS to resign. All these things will keep the matter in limelight and more and more people will understand what have happened.

My request to you and to everyone else is just not to lose hope, not yet, PLEASE. That is EXACTLY what PMLN want you to do. Why else do you think they would be claiming this decision a victory. Even if it favors NS it is not a victory and it do not favors NS either. However PMLN went so far as to claim this as a “clean chit” and that SC have declared NS sadiq and amin (which is absolutely not the case here). The only thing they can achieve from all that propaganda is to kill the hope of the nation, to kill the energy and the issue. That is what WE SHOULD NOT allow to happen.


NS have been declared dishonest and a thief by two judges,

The remaining three have asked for further investigation (not a single judge stating him innocent)


That is what the verdict is and that is how we should take and forward it.

Thank you @Farah Sohail for your input, energetic as always. Just stay positive. That is what THEY want to take away from this nation.


Sir dekhtay hain kia hota hai..

Lekin last news two days before Panama verdict was that NS was very happy.. and he thought that he will get away in the longer run.. I didn't believe at that time, now believing it..

Khair jaisa aap ne farmaya hai-- Allah karay aisa hi ho.. 60 days ki tou baat hai.. hum dekhain ge.. lazim hai ke hum bhi dekhain ge...

Agar zindagi rahi tou.. in shaa Allah..
 
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