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Panama Case: Joint Investigation Team probe

SC concerned over FIA official recommended for JIT to probe PM, sons: sources

ISLAMABAD: Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Mian Saqib Nisar on Tuesday formed a special cell for the constitution of a six-member Joint Investigation Team (JIT) to probe Sharif family’s alleged corruption in the Panama Papers case.

The special cell, which will work as a liaison office between the JIT and a special bench of the apex court, will be headed by the top court’s Additional Registrar Muhammad Ali, sources told The Express Tribune.

Sources further said there’s been a delay in the formation of the JIT as the apex court has expressed concern over the name of a Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) official recommended for inclusion in the six-member investigation team.

The sources, however, said the apex court may notify the JIT later in the day. “The court is also reviewing names of officials sent by Inter-Services Intelligence and Military Intelligence.”

In its April 20 judgment, the apex court had ordered the formation of the JIT to probe offshore assets of the prime minister and his two sons. The JIT, according to the court ruling, would comprise representatives from the National Accountability Bureau (NAB), Federal Board of Revenue (FBR), Security and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (SECP), FIA as well as officials from the MI and ISI.

The JIT shall submit biweekly reports before a special bench – a request for its formation is part of the judgement. It has also been given a sixty-day deadline to file its final report.

It is rare and unprecedented that a sitting prime minister would be quizzed by officials from civil and military institutions for his offshore companies. The premier has all along denied any wrongdoing since the scandal first surfaced when documents from a Panamanian legal firm was leaked by a consortium of international investigative journalists in April last year.

Although the majority of judges ruled against Premier Sharif’s sacking, the 545-page ruling did raise serious questions about the failure of the prime minister and his legal team to justify his family’s offshore holdings.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/139898...ficial-recommended-jit-probe-pm-sons-sources/.

@PakSword ap tu keh rahay thay ke FIA offiical is a better person....aur yahan ....as per this report..SC ko FIA official par aitraz hai??? :what: Is report main ye bhi hai ke SC ISI aur MI karay gii?? Aur baqi SBP aur SECP ke bandon par aitraz nahi hai??? :o: IF this news is true...tu lagta hai ke advocate zuroor koi garbar karrahay honge... Pehle news aay thee na ke advocate wapis aa kar naam final karein ge???
 
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Wrong.. 2 judges have decided.. 1 is remaining.. even if JIT doesn't complete it's work and one of the three judges decides to go for disqualification based on the evidence at hand, NS will be considered disqualified.

I have discussed with someone.. he says that even now, one judge can change his mind, if required.

It was a part verdict.. 2 have already made up their mind, three have started JI.. JI is even more lethal as the 2 judges stopped on disqualification, investigation may reveal crime of money laundering as well.. which will result in additional criminal cases against Shareef Family.

I told you, for a developed country, this judgment is the best, for Pakistan, it's 50-50 because of the selection of JIT members by government itself.



It seems they won't do it.. because they only have one review chance.. They will probably avail it once they are disqualified by the third judge.

It's all hogwash by Shareefs.
That is exactly what i have been saying all along!

Two judges have decided against him and three want further investigation that may actually be even more damaging for NS. There is absolutely no evidence at hand that can be presented to the JIT to convince the balance three judges of NSs innocence. Agr muuk muka he krna hota tu abhi b kia ja sakta tha but that wont be so easy for the government. We just need to make sure that more and more people are aware of what actually the judgement was so that the cannot be fooled.
 
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SC concerned over FIA official recommended for JIT to probe PM, sons: sources

ISLAMABAD: Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Mian Saqib Nisar on Tuesday formed a special cell for the constitution of a six-member Joint Investigation Team (JIT) to probe Sharif family’s alleged corruption in the Panama Papers case.

The special cell, which will work as a liaison office between the JIT and a special bench of the apex court, will be headed by the top court’s Additional Registrar Muhammad Ali, sources told The Express Tribune.

Sources further said there’s been a delay in the formation of the JIT as the apex court has expressed concern over the name of a Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) official recommended for inclusion in the six-member investigation team.

The sources, however, said the apex court may notify the JIT later in the day. “The court is also reviewing names of officials sent by Inter-Services Intelligence and Military Intelligence.”

In its April 20 judgment, the apex court had ordered the formation of the JIT to probe offshore assets of the prime minister and his two sons. The JIT, according to the court ruling, would comprise representatives from the National Accountability Bureau (NAB), Federal Board of Revenue (FBR), Security and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (SECP), FIA as well as officials from the MI and ISI.

The JIT shall submit biweekly reports before a special bench – a request for its formation is part of the judgement. It has also been given a sixty-day deadline to file its final report.

It is rare and unprecedented that a sitting prime minister would be quizzed by officials from civil and military institutions for his offshore companies. The premier has all along denied any wrongdoing since the scandal first surfaced when documents from a Panamanian legal firm was leaked by a consortium of international investigative journalists in April last year.

Although the majority of judges ruled against Premier Sharif’s sacking, the 545-page ruling did raise serious questions about the failure of the prime minister and his legal team to justify his family’s offshore holdings.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/139898...ficial-recommended-jit-probe-pm-sons-sources/.

@PakSword ap tu keh rahay thay ke FIA offiical is a better person....aur yahan ....as per this report..SC ko FIA official par aitraz hai??? :what: Is report main ye bhi hai ke SC ISI aur MI karay gii?? Aur baqi SBP aur SECP ke bandon par aitraz nahi hai??? :o: IF this news is true...tu lagta hai ke advocate zuroor koi garbar karrahay honge... Pehle news aay thee na ke advocate wapis aa kar naam final karein ge???

Jo nisbatan behtar banda tha.. uss pe hi aitraaz kar dia... hehehe..

Anyway, we don't know the reason of rejection.. maybe it's because he doesn't have any white collar crime investigation experience on him?

Asal aitraaz tou SECP, NAB aur SBP ke bandon pe karna chahiey tha.. wohi nahi kia... lollll

That is exactly what i have been saying all along!

Two judges have decided against him and three want further investigation that may actually be even more damaging for NS. There is absolutely no evidence at hand that can be presented to the JIT to convince the balance three judges of NSs innocence. Agr muuk muka he krna hota tu abhi b kia ja sakta tha but that wont be so easy for the government. We just need to make sure that more and more people are aware of what actually the judgement was so that the cannot be fooled.

You were right.. Actually, I never objected on the judgment itself as in my opinion, even direct disqualification was too much.. I was only expecting suspension.. My only concern (which still is my only concern) is on the formation of JIT, the officers of which report to different ministries. For example, SECP and SBP heads are friends of Ishaq Dollar and they are selecting officers from these institutions. NAB ka tou aap ko pata hi hai ke NAB chairman kaisay official dega.. FIA! I don't know how Chaudhry Nisar selected good individuals.. Maybe because there are only three available... so he doesn't have any chance.

Abb reh jati hai ISI and MI.. Dawn leaks ke qissay ke baad, kafi ummeed hochali hai.. to be very honest..

Iska matlab kia hai? Har 15 days baad..case ki public hearing nahi hogi..monitoring bench ki?? Sirf coordinator ke through communication hogi??? Hum tu yehi samjhay thay ke har 15 days baad public hearing hua karay gu... Aur woh jo special bench ko powers di gayi theen, article 187,189,190 ke under...us se tu lagta tha ke...public hearing hua karay gi???

JIT kab banay gi aur kon members honge.aur SC special bench kon sa hoga?? SC special bench announce hga??

SC ne kiya khichri pakaa di...unhein khud bhi ab samajh nahi aarahi shayad.. Baghair sochay samjhay ajeeb sa faisla de diya hai 3 judges ne

Aur panama bench ke 3 members jinhon ne majority verdict diya hai aur JIT propose ki hai..unka ab kahan aur kia role hoga?

I hope aaj ye sab clear hojayega

Iska matlab hai ke yeh log apnay office nahi jaeingay.. SC jaiengay subha utha ke aur naashta kar ke.. This is better because they won't see the faces of their masters in their existing offices...
 
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Jo nisbatan behtar banda tha.. uss pe hi aitraaz kar dia... hehehe..

Anyway, we don't know the reason of rejection.. maybe it's because he doesn't have any white collar crime investigation experience on him?

Asal aitraaz tou SECP, NAB aur SBP ke bandon pe karna chahiey tha.. wohi nahi kia... lollll

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Lets see...aaj kia naam saamnay aatay hain??

Bas advocate apni karaamat na dikhaye..jo ke iss report se tu lag raha hai ke dikhaa rahay hain..

I hope..ke ya tu ye report ghalat ho...ya phir SBP aur SECP ke bandon par bhi aitraz ho inhein...sirf FIA par nahi

Iska matlab hai ke yeh log apnay office nahi jaeingay.. SC jaiengay subha utha ke aur naashta kar ke.. This is better because they won't see the faces of their masters in their existing offices...

Really??? 15 days baad..report bhi registrar ko dein ge..aur woh bench ko dey ga??? Ye kia hai?? Tu 15 days baad hearing ....pata nahi hogi ya nahi??

Lets see...ke kia hota hai? Hopefully aaj situation clear hojaye gi... I hope jo bhi ho...acha ho
 
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Lets see...aaj kia naam saamnay aatay hain??

Bas advocate apni karaamat na dikhaye..jo ke iss report se tu lag raha hai ke dikhaa rahay hain..

I hope..ke ya tu ye report ghalat ho...ya phir SBP aur SECP ke bandon par bhi aitraz ho inhein...sirf FIA par nahi

Tou aitraaz kar ke inhain milayga kia? FIA ke paas 3 tou additional directors hain.. 2 chhutti pe jachukay hain.. Maloom nahi unn ke naam hain ke nahi.. Allah karay SC kahay ke Directors are allowed.. aur Shahid Hayat aajaey.. Waisay Shahid Hayat mazeed kisi bhi controversy main nahi parna chahtay.. Lekin agar woh aagaey tou jo zardaari ke hawarion ke saath kia tha 2 years pehlay... jab FIA along with rangers chhapay marti thi.. baghair kisi dar aur khauf ke.. wohi hoga inn ke saath..

Really??? 15 days baad..report bhi registrar ko dein ge..aur woh bench ko dey ga??? Ye kia hai?? Tu 15 days baad hearing ....pata nahi bogi ya nahi??

Lets see...ke kia hota hai? Hopefully aaj situation clear hojaye gi... I hope jo bhi ho...acha ho

haan in shaa Allah dekhtay hain..

@Farah Sohail


Now Tariq Fatmi..
 
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Tou aitraaz kar ke inhain milayga kia? FIA ke paas 3 tou additional directors hain.. 2 chhutti pe jachukay hain.. Maloom nahi unn ke naam hain ke nahi.. Allah karay SC kahay ke Directors are allowed.. aur Shahid Hayat aajaey.. Waisay Shahid Hayat mazeed kisi bhi controversy main nahi parna chahtay.. Lekin agar woh aagaey tou jo zardaari ke hawarion ke saath kia tha 2 years pehlay... jab FIA along with rangers chhapay marti thi.. baghair kisi dar aur khauf ke.. wohi hoga inn ke saath..

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Naam tu FIA ne teeno additional directors ke bhejay hain...

Zara SBP, SECP. Aur NAB ke members par bhi tu aitraz karna chahye.. Sirf FIA hi kiun? Mujhe sirf advocate aur pakora judge se darr hai ...espp advocate ke woh apnay karishmay na dikhayein.. I think advocate ki hi finally chalay gi..JIT members main.. Agar yahan bhi J khosa aur advocate main ikhtelaf hua..on members tof JIT....tu advocate kahein ge..ke its our judgment..hum ne ye propse ki hai..and i am the senior most amongst those who gave majority verdict... Soadvocate will ahve the final say
I hope koi miracle hojaye aur achay members select hon.. Ye nahi ke FIA walon ko reject kardein aur SBP, SBP aur NAB members ko accept.. I really hope ke aisa na ho

haan in shaa Allah dekhtay hain..

@Farah Sohail


Now Tariq Fatmi..

Shahid Hyat waisy kiya apni duty par wapis aagaye hain..FIA main...as director? Kaam shuru kar diya hai..unhon ne? Agar woh nominate hojayein tu zabardast hoga..

Tariq Fatmi ko aaj foreign office main farewell diya jaa raha hai.. Iska kiya impact hoga, civil military relations par???
 
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Shahid Hyat waisy kiya apni duty par wapis aagaye hain..FIA main...as director? Kaam shuru kar diya hai..unhon ne? Agar woh nominate hojayein tu zabardast hoga..

Yes,, he is back I have heard..

Tariq Fatmi ko aaj foreign office main farewell diya jaa raha hai.. Iska kiya impact hoga, civil military relations par???

Lekin khat tou bara khatarnaak likha hai PM ko unhon ne.. I think he should challenge it in SC..

PA did the right thing by not resisting on the dissenting notes.. They knew that the people who the government will nominate in Dawn Leaks as culprits, will themselves challenge the report.. And exactly it's happening..

Hakumat ko tou abhi kuchh samajh hi nahi aaraha kia karain.. kuchh members Gen Bajwa ko hataney ka mashwara de rahay hain seriously.. I think Gen Bajwa will accept if he is terminated. But the next will continue from where Bajwa leaves... This is where PMLN is clueless as to what do to..
 
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Lekin khat tou bara khatarnaak likha hai PM ko unhon ne.. I think he should challenge it in SC..

PA did the right thing by not resisting on the dissenting notes.. They knew that the people who the government will nominate in Dawn Leaks as culprits, will themselves challenge the report.. And exactly it's happening..

Hakumat ko tou abhi kuchh samajh hi nahi aaraha kia karain.. kuchh members Gen Bajwa ko hataney ka mashwara de rahay hain seriously.. I think Gen Bajwa will accept if he is terminated. But the next will continue from where Bajwa leaves... This is where PMLN is clueless as to what do to..

Actually Tariq Fatmi ne letter, PM ko nahi likha.. Its being wrongly reported..

Tariq Fatmi ne letter..apnay foreign service colleagues ko likha hai..
Aur aaj foreign iffice main unka farewell bhi hai shayad..

Waqayi ye samajh nahi aaraha hai ke Rao Tehseen aur Tariq Fatmi, SC kiun nahi jaarahay?? Ya koi aur opposition party, ye dawn leaks matter, SC kiun nahi le kar jaarahi? Phir wahan par COAS aur DG ISI ko bhi .as respondent mention kardein.. Taakay woh bhi apna statement on dawn leaks..SC main dein..like Gen Kiyani and Gen Pasha did on memo gate.. Ye alag baat hai ke baad main deal hogayi thee.. Lekin unka statement on record tu aagaya tha na..

Tariq Fatmi ne bhi tak tu intention nahi dikhaayi SC jaanay ki,,aur na hi PTI nr.l lets seee..ke in main se koi SC. Jata hai ya nahi?? Rao Tehseen shayad jaayein..unka bhi kuch confirm nahi

I dont think govt Gen Bajwa ko hataayegi.. Itnay bhi pagal nahi hain.. Tab unki jagah jo doosra aayega..woh aur ziada revengeful ho kar aayega..
 
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Actually Tariq Fatmi ne letter, PM ko nahi likha.. Its being wrongly reported..

Tariq Fatmi ne letter..apnay foreign service colleagues ko likha hai..
Aur aaj foreign iffice main unka farewell bhi hai shayad..

Waqayi ye samajh nahi aaraha hai ke Rao Tehseen aur Tariq Fatmi, SC kiun nahi jaarahay?? Ya koi aur opposition party, ye dawn leaks matter, SC kiun nahi le kar jaarahi? Phir wahan par COAS aur DG ISI ko bhi .as respondent mention kardein.. Taakay woh bhi apna statement on dawn leaks..SC main dein..like Gen Kiyani and Gen Pasha did on memo gate.. Ye alag baat hai ke baad main deal hogayi thee.. Lekin unka statement on record tu aagaya tha na..

Tariq Fatmi ne bhi tak tu intention nahi dikhaayi SC jaanay ki,,aur na hi PTI nr.l lets seee..ke in main se koi SC. Jata hai ya nahi?? Rao Tehseen shayad jaayein..unka bhi kuch confirm nahi

I dont think govt Gen Bajwa ko hataayegi.. Itnay bhi pagal nahi hain.. Tab unki jagah jo doosra aayega..woh aur ziada revengeful ho kar aayega..

Jabhi tou main keh raha hun ke seedhay nahi hain yeh log..

Jab tak inhain utha ke thukai nahi lagai jaegi tab tak nahi sudhraingay... They are thinking ke agar PMLN Army ko mananey main kaamyaab hojati hai tou yeh kaheen ke bhi nahi rahainge..

Inhi jaisay officers ne Pakistan ka bera gharq kia hai.. Asool parasti se ziada mafaad parasti, aur upar se inteha ki buzdili..
 
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Jabhi tou main keh raha hun ke seedhay nahi hain yeh log..

Jab tak inhain utha ke thukai nahi lagai jaegi tab tak nahi sudhraingay... They are thinking ke agar PMLN Army ko mananey main kaamyaab hojati hai tou yeh kaheen ke bhi nahi rahainge..

Inhi jaisay officers ne Pakistan ka bera gharq kia hai.. Asool parasti se ziada mafaad parasti, aur upar se inteha ki buzdili..

Gen Bajwa CJ ko letter nahi likh saktay..ke dawn leaks ka case le lein? IK ne bhi tu CJ ko legter likha tha jiske baad CJ ne suo moto liya..on bani gala..

Aur kuch rumors aarahi theen kuch din pehle ke shayad COAS, CJ ko letter likh dein ke humein JIT se nikaal dein.. Woh qissa tu ab khatam hua.. Lekin dawn leaks par tu letter likh saktay hain... Hona yehi chahye waisy ab

Lekin aisa hoga nahi...
 
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Gen Bajwa CJ ko letter nahi likh saktay..ke dawn leaks ka case le lein? IK ne bhi tu CJ ko legter likha tha jiske baad CJ ne suo moto liya..on bani gala..

Aur kuch rumors aarahi theen kuch din pehle ke shayad COAS, CJ ko letter likh dein ke humein JIT se nikaal dein.. Woh qissa tu ab khatam hua.. Lekin dawn leaks par tu letter likh saktay hain... Hona yehi chahye waisy ab

Lekin aisa hoga nahi...

Aap ko kal bataya tha naa.. ke PA is only waiting for the official notification from Interior Ministry.. nothing else.. They will decide after that what actions are needed..

Under Army Act, it's a completely constitutional step if they pick some people..
 
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It seems that some people are unwilling to sacrifice their pride and honour for the king ... not everything is for sale after all in Pakistan.
 
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It seems that some people are unwilling to sacrifice their pride and honour for the king ... not everything is for sale after all in Pakistan.

But those people are not challenging in the court.. only writing letters or doing some irrelevant things.. They want to keep everyone happy.. This won't continue for long..
 
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Aap ko kal bataya tha naa.. ke PA is only waiting for the official notification from Interior Ministry.. nothing else.. They will decide after that what actions are needed..

Under Army Act, it's a completely constitutional step if they pick some people..

Interior ministry ka notification PM office ke notification ko overrule thori karsakta hai.. Woh uss hi framework ke under hoga..jo PM house ne diya hai..ye tu sirf time buying tactic hai, govt ki taraf se..ek aur lollipop ke interior ministry ke notification ka wait karein...

Chalein ...lets see ke aagay kia hota hai?? Hopefully kuch acha hojaye...
 
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