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That will be the day. They are too busy fighting own people in India. They will hemorrhage if I write about the Birth of Indian Special Forces ;)
We don't even know our syllabus yet when i will get parcel i will divulge you.

Most elite unit is Ghatak Force because it got free publicity by Sunny Deol (Our Great leader). I am more interested in ghost units of Himalayas rather than make believe elite ones. :X
 
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99.9999999% Indian movies revolve around Pakistan.
You keep believing that. ;)

i thought it was general knowledge that the IVC originated from around the Indus River? By your logic, we cannot trust any history derived from archeology. who knows, maybe IVC originated from the mighty ganga and the mauryan rulers were in fact pashtuns. as i've repeated many times, the history of our modern nation states themselves only extends to 1947. the history of the land that they currently encompass extends beyond that. what you can't do it to claim BS like the modern republic of india is the successor of the IVC or mughals etc based on shared religion or name.
I know, I'm not contesting the fact that Indus valley has it's the oldest site along the banks of Indus in Pakistan. I'm just calling out your arguments which says it's because of Indus river.

i did read it though i did not make my point clear about them mentioning pakistan. i meant they could have said "the land that constitutes modern day pakistan" or something similar though that is unlikely. they didn't explicitly mention how mughals entered through afghanistan though alluded to it.
Make a logical statement man. If you're looking for a mention of Pakistan, look at the link I gave on Indus valley which yet again, you don't read. As if you do for any. lol! Also, it's a 7th grade book, they gave all the important aspects of their entrance into India. Besides, Pakistan wasn't an important region in the history, there is no powerful empire that's centered around Pakistan that ruled Indian subcontinent mainly because of it's proximity to invasions. That's why the Mughal left the region to more secure and rich Delhi.

so areas of rule which literally have the word ganga in their name (east and western ganga dynasties) are a myth are they?
Tangent replies.
when i say indian rats i am not referring to all indian as rats though annoyingly, this is what it alludes to. i regrettably do this sometimes without making it clear what i mean. i was referring to those who will swarm someone with a worldview different to their's with insult and abuse coupled with fake facts. it happens amongst all people. i'll stop using such phrases altogether from now on.
As I said, gutter people use gutter language. That's why I don't care.:) You keep doing what you're doing.

did i restrict it to this forum? i said elsewhere, meaning outside of the forum.
haha, if I use it outside the forum, I'll use it in here too. Because unlike PDF, most forums are very lenient on personal insults or racism.
victim mentality won't take you anywhere. i highly doubt it was the case as you say but it's possible. i used to be more patient with these topics until a few things happened. now i don't trust indians to have an open conversation about politics or history. i have done much research in the past and presented my points and as a sign of me being correct, i was treated badly lol.
LOL! I'm not just backing him, I stand by his statement our history is rich scientifically, economically and philosophically. We don't have an identity issue, we are clear on who we were and who we are. It is you who have issues, you claimed to be a lot of people, Arabs (During the guld boom), Turks (Early 80's), etc... Now the new fashion is associating with IVC, soon you'll come to claim the Hindu history too. :lol: This cycle continues with little to no success.
 
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Please be more tolerant. We are also allowing Indian flags on profiles here.
 
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We don't even know our syllabus yet when i will get parcel i will divulge you.

Most elite unit is Ghatak Force because it got free publicity by Sunny Deol (Our Great leader). I am more interested in ghost units of Himalayas rather than make believe elite ones. :X

The Ghost units are quite open. You see them everyday all over .... but don't realize. And anyways, the specific you are looking for, even the information to senior commissioned officers is need to know. You get a direct invite/reporting location, and you disappear, to reappear later, enlightened and in nirvana.

The tidbit of Indian SF raising was the fact that 1 Company of Hindustani Mussalmaan (HM) troops (Delta Company of 3rd Battalion Rajputana Rifles) along with 1 platoon from Kumaon and 1 from Dogra, constituted the Meghdoot force.

Imagine our so called nationalists' reaction if I tell them the fact that Kahuta raid was executed primarily by these HM troops ex-3 RajRif led by then Maj Megh Singh, VrC (later Lt Col) and having 02 x Officers of 3 Raj Rif: 2/Lt Mohinder Singh, MVC (later Col and Commanded 3 RajRif, the man was cited for PVC, but his actions of getting a trophy to prove every kill, and leaving behind a black button as a calling card on the bodies, started as because no one believed his kill rate initially, led to concerns of Human Rights and it was downgraded) and 2/Lt (later Col Balhara). Had the privilege to meet the former back in 1992, he has a bounty declared on his head :D

Cheers.
 
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@LASER Learn to ignore and move on. Understand what has (or rather did not) happened here.

This link says it all:


And as far as the new history being written here, it is only because of the same issues, a need to identify. The assertion of Arabic preceding Indo-European languages, the Eastern sub-set of which consists of Indo-Persian, is the joke to top it all.

I have done research that India was name given by Martian Languages Xerzes dialect, my original research.:woot:

Please, henceforth, continue to push this.

@Sam. Your wise inputs? @Joe Shearer good you have taken a sabbatical. I made a mistake of thinking some improvement has come.

Why do you think I abstain from all conversations not personal in nature? The moment we descend to Mother Earth, we get the dance of the seven veils, bottom upwards.

Silly fellow.
 
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I know, I'm not contesting the fact that Indus valley has it's the oldest site along the banks of Indus in Pakistan. I'm just calling out your arguments which says it's because of Indus river.
it is because of the indus river. the civilisation started off around it.

Make a logical statement man. If you're looking for a mention of Pakistan, look at the link I gave on Indus valley which yet again, you don't read.
thanks detective, for your assumptions. like i've said, i read over both links. i saw the mention on the first page. they only mention how the site at harappa was found in pakistan, nothing else. also, i was referring to the mughal link, not both.
As if you do for any. lol! Also, it's a 7th grade book, they gave all the important aspects of their entrance into India. Besides, Pakistan wasn't an important region in the history, there is no powerful empire that's centered around Pakistan that ruled Indian subcontinent mainly because of it's proximity to invasions. That's why the Mughal left the region to more secure and rich Delhi.
sikh empire and gandhara to name a few. you are again proving my point about indians wanting to deny pakistanis the history of our land, making up excuses about how any rules that extended from land that constitutes modern-day pakistan were insignificant or unnoteworthy. the fact may be that we are disunited about our identity at present time, but we have no insecurities of the richness of our land in terms of its history and culture.
Tangent replies.
LOL so when i rebuke your ignorance, they are "tangent replies"? i proved my point clearly, so i don't see what is unclear about it.
As I said, gutter people use gutter language. That's why I don't care.:) You keep doing what you're doing.
sadly ignorance of the opposition brings out the worst from me. i am not a great debater who can just keep his cool.

haha, if I use it outside the forum, I'll use it in here too.
whatever, don't believe you but it's not relevant anymore.
Because unlike PDF, most forums are very lenient on personal insults or racism.
makes no sense. if PDF were so strict compared to other forums then why would you attempt to use them here?

LOL! I'm not just backing him, I stand by his statement our history is rich scientifically, economically and philosophically.
the history of your land yes; depending on what you define your people as, it extends differently. the history of the country of india extends to 1947, but the history of various ethnic groups extends further and across borders, hence why one country cannot claim the entire history of the subcontinent. i'm surprised you're even willing to talk about this subject since we know where your religion and the origin of your culture is from (IVC). that's probably why you're in denial about where the IVC originated from and was primarily based for most of their existence.

We don't have an identity issue, we are clear on who we were and who we are. It is you who have issues, you claimed to be a lot of people, Arabs (During the guld boom), Turks (Early 80's), etc... Now the new fashion is associating with IVC, soon you'll come to claim the Hindu history too. :lol: This cycle continues with little to no success.
we're not associating with anyone. Pakistan was given its identity when it was created, a nation of refuge for Muslims of the subcontinent. some people just chose not to adhere to it as much as other parts of their identity i.e ethnicity. our land's history is different from our current identity, which is simple. same goes for egypt which i keep mentioning but you conveniently keep ignoring. you may have chosen to stuck with the same religion and way of life, but we changed to what we knew to be the truth.
 
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thanks detective, for your assumptions. like i've said, i read over both links. i saw the mention on the first page. they only mention how the site at harappa was found in pakistan, nothing else. also, i was referring to the mughal link, not both.
Yeah, I guess nothing will satisfy your bias. Besides, I still assert, Pakistan region didn't play an important part in Mughal history, there was no central Kingdom at Pakistan enough for a specific mention.

By the way, you still failed to produce any evidence that proves what you are taught like Muryans, Shakas, Kushans, etc... I assume that your history starts with Umayyad's given you are still drawing tangent replies.
sikh empire and gandhara to name a few. you are again proving my point about indians wanting to deny pakistanis the history of our land, making up excuses about how any rules that extended from land that constitutes modern-day pakistan were insignificant or unnoteworthy. the fact may be that we are disunited about our identity at present time, but we have no insecurities of the richness of our land in terms of its history and culture.
The Sikh empire barely lasted 50 years. Proving my point, there wasn't a large empire that flourished, centered around today's Pakistan due to its geography. What is Gandhara? (An empire around it?)

And lol! We are not denying you anything. We are not the ones who don't preserve the ancient ruins of temples, Buddhist pilgrim sites, defaced Buddha carvings etc... You yourself are denying your history. We simply feel sorry for you.
LOL so when i rebuke your ignorance, they are "tangent replies"?
Rebuke my ignorance? :lol: Sunny, you just invented names. Like Ganga empires, that's not worth a reply. It's laughable.
sadly ignorance of the opposition brings out the worst from me. i am not a great debater who can just keep his cool.
More like ignorant people make the worst replies (Ganga empire:lol:). Hence, gutter people use gutter language.

the history of your land yes;
Not land, the culture. Your claims are simply based on the land. You don't have anything that's remotely connected to the Dharmic culture and religion. Having a bunch of archeological sites and few movable and immovable items doesn't make you, them. It makes up for a tourist destination. Like Egypt.
To have an identity, you need a continuous culture. That's why we don't have an identity issue.
i'm surprised you're even willing to talk about this subject since we know where your religion and the origin of your culture is from (IVC).
:lol:That's what I said above, your claims are based on geography. Which is good for tourism.
You don't own the culture, we do. That's why I said, you can simply claim everything under the sun originated in Pakistan.
we're not associating with anyone. Pakistan was given its identity when it was created, a nation of refuge for Muslims of the subcontinent.
Good, then believe that. You are an Islamic nation, who now owns many Indus valley sites, we are a secular nation like we used to before 1947 having many Indus valley sites and land where 3000+ years old culture is still practiced where 4 of the major religions in the world originated and flourished.

our land's history is different from our current identity, which is simple. same goes for egypt which i keep mentioning but you conveniently keep ignoring. you may have chosen to stuck with the same religion and way of life, but we changed to what we knew to be the truth.
You got my attention now. And makes good for a tourist destination if any.:) Thankfully, Egyptians preserved some of its histories, unlike those defaced and destroyed monuments in Pakistan.
 
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To win the hearts of Pakistani people, and change their attitude. India plays a smart game.
 
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