Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[khanasifm]

Paf just ordered more Saab and not k3 obviously if they could only talk to f-16 ?? Why order more Saab to support only 4 f16 sqn vs k3 for rest of the airforce actually even mirages have data link so they see what Saab or jf or f16 radar is painting

 

[khanasifm]

What is the covered eqpt in the cockpit on rhs datalink terminal ??

Looks like ft7pgs as there is no frame on the front ??

 

[TaimiKhan]

Only talk/communicate to ground ,it Doesnt work bcz real time data/info can be transferred using awacs only , i guess

U know googling about something first is better before we start a discussion.

Jf17 have german communication equipment and they have no prb talking to f16s or Saab aew.

Prb now comes in data transfer linking, and for that purpose the saab and zdk03 are all linked to a GCS and what they are seeing is displayed on the ground and whole picture is made clear through which assets are controlled and commanded and data can be sent to any aircraft from the GCS whether its jf17 or f16.

Solution in shape of a PAF made link17 was in progress so that we have our own tech for data transfer among majority of the assets instead of relying on western tech.

http://quwa.org/2016/04/05/link-17-pakistans-homegrown-data-link-system/

 

[Khadim e Darul Ehsaan]

U know googling about something first is better before we start a discussion.

Jf17 have german communication equipment and they have no prb talking to f16s or Saab aew.

Prb now comes in data transfer linking, and for that purpose the saab and zdk03 are all linked to a GCS and what they are seeing is displayed on the ground and whole picture is made clear through which assets are controlled and commanded and data can be sent to any aircraft from the GCS whether its jf17 or f16.

Solution in shape of a PAF made link17 was in progress so that we have our own tech for data transfer among majority of the assets instead of relying on western tech.

http://quwa.org/2016/04/05/link-17-pakistans-homegrown-data-link-system/

I thought that may be awacs directly provide data to friendly aircrafts thats why i used word "i guess" bcz i wasnt sure about this but any way thanks for clarifying and giving right answer

 

[mingle]

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What is the covered eqpt in the cockpit on rhs datalink terminal ??

Looks like ft7pgs as there is no frame on the front ??

I feel it's F7T twin seater reason look at canopy hing on the right side .Both F7 P /PG has regular canopy open upwards .

 

[khanasifm]

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-wonders-of-link-16-for-less-midslvts-updated-02471/



http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capa...G_278-A007-Link_22_Guidebook_Overview_Ed4.pdf

Per paf history 1999-2013 a tactical data link was developed indigenously by paf for its use part of vision 2000 and beyond which included c4isr and other toys such as tps77, ylc2 other upgrade etc

 

[fatman17]

But the can't benefit from the direct data link or radar guidance from the awcs.

Apparently seems to be working at least during airforce exercises

 

[TaimiKhan]

I thought that may be awacs directly provide data to friendly aircrafts thats why i used word "i guess" bcz i wasnt sure about this but any way thanks for clarifying and giving right answer

Give this a read:

http://quwa.org/2016/03/27/pakistans-c4isr-part-4-communications-data-links/

In simple words take example of real world, iphone only exchanges data through Bluetooth with another apple device and not with an android based or windows based bluetooth, this is due to software related restrictions. However a windows based nokia can share data with android based phone through bluetooth. Thus data linking is more likely based on software rather then hardware.

Read above link, will give u a good idea how SDRs / TDL work.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

 

[Imran Khan]

saab-2000 trainer

 

[khanasifm]

Another Saab 2000was added to transport fleet under assuming VIP 12 sqn , paf S/N J062 and VP-BPL ???


Thus pilots get airtime on j019 and j062 (serving as transport a/c) before moving to AWACS Sqn

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Saab_2000,_Polet_Flight_JP7470617.jpg/1024px-Saab_2000,_Polet_Flight_JP7470617.jpg

http://www.historyofpia.com/board/march_17/saab_mar23a.jpg


http://www.historyofpia.com/board/march_17/saab_mar23g.jpg

http://www.saabaircraftleasing.com/prod/dataSheets/2000_FAR.pdf

AWAC

http://saab.com/air/airborne-solutions/airborne-surveillance/saab-2000-erieye-aewc/

 

[Sulman Badshah]

World Today Defence Day Special

 

[Dazzler]

It's a moment of pride indeed, the OEM called repairing them a lost cause. They wrote these two off from their registry records. Guess what..they were proven wrong, and pretty badly.

Extent of damage..

After recovery..

All work done and certified by local aviation industry. The aircraft were re registratered by the Swedes, as they had to eat their words.

 

[Hell hound]

It's a moment of pride indeed, the OEM called repairing them a lost cause. They wrote these two off from their registry records. Guess what..they were proven wrong, and pretty badly.

Extent of damage..

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After recovery..
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All work done and certified by local aviation industry. The aircraft were re registratered by the Swedes, as they had to eat their words.

so how many saab awacs are operational as of now 3 or all 4

 

[Dazzler]

4

so how many saab awacs are operational as of now 3 or all 4