Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[unicorn148]

pakisthan is not getting KJ2000 they are getting KJ200 because china dont have platform to support KJ2000

 

[wangrong]

pakisthan is not getting KJ2000 they are getting KJ200 because china dont have platform to support KJ2000

2012
Y-20

 

[TaimiKhan]

pakisthan is not getting KJ2000 they are getting KJ200 because china dont have platform to support KJ2000

It would be better that first you understand what is KJ-2000 & KJ-200.

Both are the designations given to the platforms in service with the PLAAF. KJ-2000 is the platform with a stationary radar dome on a IL-76/78 aircraft, while KJ-200 is the linear shaped radar placed on a Y-8 aircraft. KJ-2000 or KJ-200 are NOT the names of the radars, they are the names of the platforms comprising of the radar and aircraft.

What PAF has done and as per the model picture presented in the previous page by our Chinese member Wangrong, is that it ordered a platform which comprises of a Y-8 aircraft having a round radar dome, as shown in the above pictures.

Now if you can see the above pictures the aircraft has a round housing having the radar, which means that this aircraft can support such a structure and the aircraft which was sent to Pakistan and seen at Chaklala airbase was the one being shown in the above pictures.

Catch in all this discussion is that the size of the radar placed in the dome structure on the KJ-2000 platform would not be the same as placed on the Y-8 shown above and the one which PAF will get, so if the radar size is less then the one on KJ-2000, its weight will also be less, enough to be lifted by the Y-8 aircraft. And the range will also be less compared to the radar placed on KJ-2000.

All PAF need is an AEW&C which can look around for 350-400KM range as that is more then enough to give ample warning to PAF for incoming fighter aircrafts and as PAF's main role is to defend the airspace from Indian fighter aircrafts, and such range AEW&C can do its job. Our focus is India not a global dominance ambition.

 

[ironman]

Why using Y-8 while a better platform available(Y-9)..? I think PAF will go for Y-9. Can anybody confirm about the platform posted above. Is it Y-8 or Y-9?

 

[wangrong]

Why using Y-8 while a better platform available(Y-9)..? I think PAF will go for Y-9. Can anybody confirm about the platform posted above. Is it Y-8 or Y-9?

it is Y8F-600

in fact Y8F-600=Y9

 

[TaimiKhan]

Why using Y-8 while a better platform available(Y-9)..? I think PAF will go for Y-9. Can anybody confirm about the platform posted above. Is it Y-8 or Y-9?

A proper Y-9 is still in the design or should we say in the prototype manufacture stage. As it is being said to be in the C-130J class, Y-8-600 has much improvement over the earlier versions, but Y-9 will be having different specifications then this variant of Y8-600.

 

[wangrong]

A proper Y-9 is still in the design or should we say in the prototype manufacture stage. As it is being said to be in the C-130J class, Y-8-600 has much improvement over the earlier versions, but Y-9 will be having different specifications then this variant of Y8-600.

Y8F-600=Y9

 

[TaimiKhan]

Y8F-600=Y9

Sorry to be asking, but a link to this would be helpful as what i have gone through Chinese defense forums, they say that Y8-600 is different then what Y-9 would be. Plus many articles say the same from Chinese sources and Chinese defence forums.

This is the first time i have heard that Y8-600=Y-9

 

[wangrong]

Sorry to be asking, but a link to this would be helpful as what i have gone through Chinese defense forums, they say that Y8-600 is different then what Y-9 would be. Plus many articles say the same from Chinese sources and Chinese defence forums.

This is the first time i have heard that Y8-600=Y-9

it's a old news,Y-9 is game over now

There have low cost-effective on Y-9,so ....

 

[wangrong]

A proper Y-9 is still in the design or should we say in the prototype manufacture stage. As it is being said to be in the C-130J class, Y-8-600 has much improvement over the earlier versions, but Y-9 will be having different specifications then this variant of Y8-600.

Y-9's Wind tunnel test

 

[TaimiKhan]

it's a old news,Y-9 is game over now

There have low cost-effective on Y-9,so ....

OK......... Thx

 

[M_Saint]

Well...

There is three PAF Saab 2000AEW&C flying around Sweden since a while back and the first one of these is acting as the reference aircraft with installed test equipment.

When everything is verified to be functional to customer satisfaction whatever required adjustments will be applied to the other 2. So even if there is a slight delay the other 2 would be delivered very shortly upon the first one.

The 4th is a bit behind the rest but not by that much.

The delivery date of the first Saab 2000AEW&C was set on Sept-OCT, 09, so why everything wasn't verified to be functional to PAF's satisfaction within that time frame? Why delaying trick on acquiring any teeth that could bite hard like 5-6 yrs span of F-Sola MLU, J-10's order got played unscrupulously whereas the hero that brought fast track 'Nuke state status' got humiliated? Furthermore, sky wasn't even limit of satisfaction but benchmark was definitely needed to be set; especially in a time, when IND and war party were conspiring to unleash any form of storms to disintegrate PAK. But where is the paranoia on PPP/MQM/MILITARY top brass's faces to save PAK?

 

[TangoViking]

The delivery date of the first Saab 2000AEW&C was set on Sept-OCT, 09, so why everything wasn't verified to be functional to PAF's satisfaction within that time frame?

It wasn't set like that. These type of projects doesn't work with such fixed schedules. PAF is launch customer and there was never any plan to make the Erieye's actually operational in the PAF this year. Once it arrives. there will be several months of additional testing and training.

More testing is done in Sweden as opposed to in Pakistan but that is not the same as a sign on any unsatisfaction. Be happy that no one is rushing the aircraft into service just to parade at airshows.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

A couple of months delay in this kind of project is not out of the ordinary---there is too much at stake for both the nations---none of them want to rush it up just for the sake of it.

 

[Quwa]

The delivery date of the first Saab 2000AEW&C was set on Sept-OCT, 09, so why everything wasn't verified to be functional to PAF's satisfaction within that time frame? Why delaying trick on acquiring any teeth that could bite hard like 5-6 yrs span of F-Sola MLU, J-10's order got played unscrupulously whereas the hero that brought fast track 'Nuke state status' got humiliated? Furthermore, sky wasn't even limit of satisfaction but benchmark was definitely needed to be set; especially in a time, when IND and war party were conspiring to unleash any form of storms to disintegrate PAK. But where is the paranoia on PPP/MQM/MILITARY top brass's faces to save PAK?

A400 also faced delays for many countries, what does that mean?