Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[nomi007]

 

[HAIDER]

until now i feel sad and ashamed that PAF failed to protect the most expensive single aircraft in their inventory .

They were busy in making money from wedding hall.....they move the guard to wedding parks, instead of planes...

 

[Quwa]

until now i feel sad and ashamed that PAF failed to protect the most expensive single aircraft in their inventory .

Until this war on terror issue, the biggest threat facing PAF air bases was Pumba, I.e. warthogs. It didn't fully comprehend that a war was being fought on home soil.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Look at the pictures in above Post, serial numbers
11-001
11-002
12-002
12-003
13-003

confirm there are 5 KE's, but why are 002 & 003 duplicated? anyone

It is bad reporting for sure ... but can it be that since 1 EriEye Saab-2000 was destroyed and 1 was reportedly damaged and supposed to be repaired (current status unknown) ... then it would be 5 + 2 = 7? ... that is if the news of the 5th ZDK-03 is correct.

 

[ice_man]

SAABs ERIEYE will be missed

& the P3 upgraded in Mehraan.

 

[Bratva]

Look at the pictures in above Post, serial numbers
11-001
11-002
12-002
12-003
13-003

confirm there are 5 KE's, but why are 002 & 003 duplicated? anyone

There are only 3 KE's. Those serial numbers indicate, the year 2nd and 3rd ZDK was brought in Pakistan and once it was inducted in PAF properly, the serial changed and reflected that year properly

 

[Quwa]

SAABs ERIEYE will be missed

& the P3 upgraded in Mehraan.

The way PAF is going, it'd much prefer being more involved in the development of what it procures, so as to ensure its exact needs are met. PAF would probably prefer engaging in a project akin to Wedgetail: Take a very powerful AESA radar and integrate it to a platform capable of long loiter time (not only in terms of flight, but housing the actual operators for long durations). It'll be a decade or so before such a program could be possible, but it'd be the ideal solution, above Erieye by any measure. ZDK03 and Karakorum Eagle is a step towards that.

In an ideal world, Pakistan would be in a position (financially) to take the Airbus A320 as a base platform for AEW&C, MPA and ISR&BM programs, one after the other.

 

[syed_yusuf]

currently paf operates 3 erieye and 4 KE03

4th erieye could be procured based on one existing platform and transferring equipment from damaged example

 

[Viper0011.]

The way PAF is going, it'd much prefer being more involved in the development of what it procures, so as to ensure its exact needs are met. PAF would probably prefer engaging in a project akin to Wedgetail: Take a very powerful AESA radar and integrate it to a platform capable of long loiter time (not only in terms of flight, but housing the actual operators for long durations). It'll be a decade or so before such a program could be possible, but it'd be the ideal solution, above Erieye by any measure. ZDK03 and Karakorum Eagle is a step towards that.

In an ideal world, Pakistan would be in a position (financially) to take the Airbus A320 as a base platform for AEW&C, MPA and ISR&BM programs, one after the other.

Why make it three times more costly, when you can have the Indonesian or some Chinese jets available to you as platforms for like 30% of the cost? In fact, the Chinese are working on Boeing like ATR jets (small ones are good enough for something like the Erieye radar), and in the next few years, the Chinese will be producing jets looking modern like Boeing's. Pakistan can acquire those, again, for 50% of the cost for future AWACS platforms.

I think for the next 10-15 years, you guys are good. The numbers will obviously increase if a Naval air arm is created (dedicated) and as Gawader goes full steam ahead with business actually taking place after the CPEC completes.

IMO, if there is anything with regards to AEW, Pakistan needs to learn and master the AESA tech and build these radars in house. That would be HUGE for your industry's advancement. Later, the same tech learned can be customized and made smaller so that it could then be used in platforms like the JFT, etc. Plus, similar radars can ALSO be used in SAM systems, which, IMO should be the highest priority next to additional Jets (capable platform with TOT of course).

 

[ice_man]

currently paf operates 3 erieye and 4 KE03

4th erieye could be procured based on one existing platform and transferring equipment from damaged example

3 ERIEYE?? that is optimistic

 

[razgriz19]

3 ERIEYE?? that is optimistic

Yeah very optimistic
#040 was again photographed recently, its the same one that appeared on 23 march flypast, saudi exercise, etc
From pictures we know for sure PAF has two Saabs, one fitted with Eriye, the other one without it. PAF uses it as a transporter i think since Saab has blacklisted Pakistan.

April 2015 - people hauler

#040 Last Eriye.

And recently, like yesterday!
#040

 

[Zarvan]

Yeah very optimistic
#040 was again photographed recently, its the same one that appeared on 23 march flypast, saudi exercise, etc
From pictures we know for sure PAF has two Saabs, one fitted with Eriye, the other one without it. PAF uses it as a transporter i think since Saab has blacklisted Pakistan.

April 2015 - people hauler

#040 Last Eriye.

And recently, like yesterday!
#040

Does any one has video of this program ?

 

[razgriz19]

Does any one has video of this program ?

Dunya News: Dunya TV Special-part All-2015-09-03-Dunya News Special: Qas.

only like 5 mins

 

[Quwa]

There was a report a while back hinting that the two heavily damaged Erieye would be repaired, but as with many things in Pakistan, speculation and hope is all we got. Also, I don't think Saab or Sweden blacklisted Pakistan, their embassy still has Saab's Defence branch involved in Pakistan.

Aerial Eyes: Pakistan’s New AWACS Fleets

 

[janu.bravo]

SAAB SIGNS SUPPORT CONTRACT FOR AIRBORNE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM
PRESS RELEASE

21 March 2013



Defence and security company Saab has today signed a support contract for airborne surveillance system. The contract amounts to MSEK1,100 over 2013-2017.

The contract concerns a comprehensive set of spares and support services for a previously delivered system, Saab 2000 AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning & Control). The Saab 2000 AEW&C comprises of Saab 2000 aircraft equipped with the advanced Erieye radar system and ground equipment.

The wide-area surveillance system in combination with ground equipment enables control over both land and sea, and can play an important role for border surveillance and rescue operations as well as in combating terrorism and organised crime.

"Our surveillance system provides the customer with improved solutions for defence and civil security. This contract is a result of our close cooperation with our customer and can be seen as a further confirmation of our strong capability to provide our customers with advanced service and support solutions”, says Gunilla Fransson, Head of Saab’s business area Security and Defence Solutions.

Saab offers airborne surveillance systems for a wide range of use. The systems can be based on different platforms and delivered as turn key solutions including a comprehensive set of advanced support, spare part services and training. Saab’s Erieye radar system has been provided on several platforms, for example Saab 2000, Saab 340 and Embraer 145, and sold to eight different customers around the world.

The industry’s nature is such that depending on circumstances concerning the product and customer, information regarding the customer will not be announced.

Saab serves the global market with world-leading products, services and solutions ranging from military defence to civil security. Saab has operations and employees on all continents and constantly develops, adopts and improves new technology to meet customers’ changing needs.

For further information, please contact:

Saab Press Centre, +46 (0)734 180 018, presscentre@saabgroup.com

There was a report a while back hinting that the two heavily damaged Erieye would be repaired, but as with many things in Pakistan, speculation and hope is all we got. Also, I don't think Saab or Sweden blacklisted Pakistan, their embassy still has Saab's Defence branch involved in Pakistan.

Aerial Eyes: Pakistan’s New AWACS Fleets