Pakistanis be ready, time of action is here and now.

[Reddington]

We should call it great patriotic war. Just like USSR its fight for our survival our existence ,we cannot afford to lose it at any cost. Our race our culture our history our religion everything will be annihilated if we showed any weakness.

For that Pakistan needs a Stalin as well. Do you know what Stalin did in his rule that helped USSR to defend itself against the might of Nazi Germany????

Stalin famously stated: ”We are fifty or a hundred years behind the advanced western capitalist countries. We must make up this gap in ten years. Either we do it or they will crush us.”

He launched an ambitious 5 year plan in 1928 to transform Russia from a peasant society into an Industrial Power which later made it capable to resist the might of Hitler’s Germany. Economic activity was pushed in the direction of the Heavy Industries, which lead to a 350 percent increase in output, in a bid to prepare Russia for an Industrialized War.

By the end of world war 2, Soviet factories were churning out thousands of tanks, guns, arms and ammunition, planes etc every month due to the industrialization which was achieved under Stalin's rule.

 

[SIPRA]

Wrong brother. If you analyse last few months since Feb 2019. Indians were embolden after 26th. Despite they were spanked on 27th, they still falsely tried to maintain the facade that they have shot down PAF's F 16. We hear funny stories all the time since then.

You may have also noticed that after Pakistan has carried out the promise made by PM IK and PA brass that if attacked Pakistan would response at a time and place of its choosing, which it did on 27th, the Indians, specifically Modi had been acting very erratically.

It is a direct result of keeping the promise to attack. Some may say, the response was adequate, some of us say that Pakistan should have punished India severely for deterrence purposes. What we did on 27th wasn't enough deterrence we are soon going to see the fruit of that restrain shown by PA/PAF.

The simple answer is that, under the circumstances, our response cannot go beyond our resources. I recall, we have already discussed it in some other thread. Real issue is that we grossly failed to develop our country in past about 70 years, as we should have.

The sad thing is that the Kashmiris are going to pay the price with their blood.
You think this is a good thing!!

No. I don't think that it is a good thing. In fact, it is extremely sad and disturbing. But, again, as I said, we, as well as Kashmiris, are severally constrained, in all respects, and thus we have to tread very carefully. I, for one, have full confidence, in this regard, on our current political and military leadership and, hence, am relying upon their good judgement. An extraordinary NSC meeting has already been called by PMIK.

 

[crankthatskunk]

The simple answer is that, under the circumstances, our response cannot go beyond our resources. I recall, we have already discussed it in some other thread. Real issue is that we grossly failed to develop our country in past about 70 years, as we should have.



No. I don't think that it is a good thing. In fact, it is extremely sad and disturbing. But, again, as I said, we, as well as Kashmiris, are severally constrained, in all respects, and thus we have to tread very carefully. I, for one, have full confidence, in this regard, on our current political and military leadership and, hence, am relying upon their good judgement. An extraordinary NSC meeting has already been called by PMIK.

Brother, mark my words, the Indians, especially Modi etal would only understand the language of force and overwhelming power, nothing else. In coming days I will be proven right, I have no doubts about it.

 

[Smoke]

Brother, mark my words, the Indians, especially Modi etal would only understand the language of force and overwhelming power, nothing else. In coming days I will be proven right, I have no doubts about it.

No you are absolutely right in saying that, But we need to do that properly.

 

[SIPRA]

Brother, mark my words, the Indians, especially Modi etal would only understand the language of force and overwhelming power, nothing else. In coming days I will be proven right, I have no doubts about it.

Agree, but we don't have that overwhelming power, unfortunately. That is why, caution is required.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Agree, but we don't have that overwhelming power, unfortunately. That is why, caution is required.

I understand your point of view. If you remember at the time of 26th and 27th Feb, me and @MastanKhan argued that we should have used our available force with decisive power. That is the difference.

My point of view is very simple, half way house is never going to work against bloody thrusty Indians.
I understand fully that corrupt Zardari and Nawaz, especially Nawaz has purposefully left Pakistan weaker, both militarily and financially because he was working in cahoot with Modi and Indians.

We should punish these traitors severely, but I don't see even that will in Pakistani government and in its institutions.

Remember, the weaknesses and cowardice only come back to haunt you. The problems never go away if you show weakness.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

The Brits knew what was at stake. Churchill had to just remind them

so do we

 

[SIPRA]

I understand your point of view. If you remember at the time of 26th and 27th Feb, me and @MastanKhan argued that we should have used our available force with decisive power. That is the difference.

My point of view is very simple, half way house is never going to work against bloody thrusty Indians.
I understand fully that corrupt Zardari and Nawaz, especially Nawaz has purposefully left Pakistan weaker, both militarily and financially because he was working in cahoot with Modi and Indians.

We should punish these traitors severely, but I don't see even that will in Pakistani government and in its institutions.

Remember, the weaknesses and cowardice only come back to haunt you. The problems never go away if you show weakness.

Bharat Mata is a perpetual nymphomaniac whore; but, unfortunately, we neither have effective tools, nor ample supplies of Viagra.

 

[Shane]

People taking Trump's words seriously.
Bla bla bla...

Tell that to MEA, Modi, and his gang dear who have been hyperventilating on twitter and so has been the Indian opposition. The mediocre Indian media is taking the lead as always, it is all just as obnoxious as your random posts here.

It was probably a mediocre Modi making one of his infamous blunders in trying to impress and appear stately in front of Trump.

Modi is known for making mindless statements to try to appear as if he is actually sophisticated and even a statesman of some standing than the mediocrity his words and mannerism reflects.

The butcher of Gujrat's statement claiming clouds would hide Indian fighters as they tried to sneak across loc, his claimed use of digital camera and email when it was not even commercially available at the time of his concocted narration etc etc all point towards that direction.

So let's look at International view on who is actually going berserk on Trump statement.

Link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...asking-for-donald-trumps-mediation-in-kashmir

The reaction from Delhi was just as panic stricken as Modi's "stately" blunder as there was hue and cry in Parliament as Ministry of Interior kept trying to cover for Modi...

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[BringHarmony]

Tell that to MEA, Modi, and his gang dear who have been hyperventilating on twitter and so has been the Indian opposition. The mediocre Indian media is taking the lead as always, it is all just as obnoxious as your random posts here.

It was probably a mediocre Modi making one of his infamous blunders in trying to impress and appear stately in front of Trump.

Modi is known for making mindless statements to try to appear as if he is actually sophisticated and even a statesman of some standing than the mediocrity his words and mannerism reflects.

The butcher of Gujrat's statement claiming clouds would hide Indian fighters as they tried to sneak across loc, his claimed use of digital camera and email when it was not even commercially available at the time of his concocted narration etc etc all point towards that direction.

So let's look at International view on who is actually going berserk on Trump statement.

Link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...asking-for-donald-trumps-mediation-in-kashmir

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The reaction from Delhi was just as panic stricken as Modi's "stately" blunder as there was hue and cry in Parliament as Ministry of Interior kept trying to cover for Modi...

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Lemme ask you this: Are you guys only as good as modi and his brigade? Thats you benchmark?

 

[Shane]

Lemme ask you this: Are you guys only as good as modi and his brigade? Thats you benchmark?

Your IQ is through the roof, lol.

No dear, that's actually your bench mark, lol, I simply stated that it must have been a mediocre Modi again who made another one of his infamous blunders.

 

[BringHarmony]

Your IQ is through the roof, lol.

No dear, that's actually your bench mark, lol, I simply stated that it must have been a mediocre Modi again who made another one of his infamous blunders.

But its you who brought modi into discussion out of no where, right? You want yourself to be compared to him and his 'brigade'. Thats why you are asking me to "Go tell him blah blah blah".

 

[SIPRA]

But its you who brought modi into discussion out of no where, right? You want yourself to be compared to him and his 'brigade'. Thats why you are asking me to "Go tell him blah blah blah".

Just a curiosity. Why you are interested in affairs of India and Pakistan?

 

[El Sidd]

Maybe its time to Show the indians that the spirit of God lives in this Nation.

I hope Muslims of Pakistan Support first use policy of Pakistans nuclear arsenal on Indian war Maschine

 

[Shane]

But its you who brought modi into discussion out of no where, right? You want yourself to be compared to him and his 'brigade'. Thats why you are asking me to "Go tell him blah blah blah".

Grow up kid, don't try to bring down the standard of this forum to your level.

Maybe its time to Show the indians that the spirit of God lives in this Nation.

I hope Muslims of Pakistan Support first use policy of Pakistans nuclear arsenal on Indian war Maschine

Depends on the challenge. One attempted new doctrine launch has already been obliterated by simply shoving some AMRAAMs up MKI's behind.