We should avoid as many as we can though.There a lot of rough people cannot avoid them all but I respect your stand
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We should avoid as many as we can though.There a lot of rough people cannot avoid them all but I respect your stand
I just find your attitude obnoxious. I don't like rude people.
I would never engage with you on that basis in real life, so please do me a favour.
There was a reason why PA pickets got pulverized from the air with impunity during Kargil war.Dont want to derail....but sounds like conspiracy theory! PAF kept aircrafts number low!!!
Pakistan allowed the operation. It's a well known fact. How else did the get out from Abbotabad?
Pak military was fully involved and there is no OBL...where is the proof aside from waffle
I beg your pardon,
If Laden was not in abbotabad, If Pak Military was fully involved;
Then why Dr Shakeel Afreedi is rotting in jail ???
It's highly outrageous, unjust and utter violation of human rights.
Yep, I agree with @MastanKhan, "showing restraint" was a big mistake on part of Pakistan. Indians would have gone for kill whenever opportunity presented itself. Just look at the 1999 Atlantique shootdown incident. I remember the counter-argument was that such and such would have been act of war. lol, as if the IAF crossing the international border to strike wasn't an act of war?There was a reason why PA pickets got pulverized from the air with impunity during Kargil war.
At that time, PAF was in no position to take on IAF armed with BVRs.
Whose fault was that? It was not some Sajha Majha's job to have the right numbers and right type of hardware to defend the muqaddas territory of Pakistan.
Mirage 2000s weren't acquired when they were up for sale.
Then the opportunity to purchase 36 J-10 was also squandered.
Then, when the time came to smash IAF and IA on 27th, the time to demolish their appetite for war once and for all, PAF chose to show restraint. As if there was someone out there who gives two hoots about "responsible states" in this dog's world?
They will get what's coming to them. And what's coming to them is war which they've been avoiding for so long.
Shakeel Afridi was a Pakistani national working for a foreign intelligence agency. He should be executed Justice is not served yet.
There was a reason why PA pickets got pulverized from the air with impunity during Kargil war.
At that time, PAF was in no position to take on IAF armed with BVRs
Yep, I agree with @MastanKhan, "showing restraint" was a big mistake on part of Pakistan. Indians would have gone for kill whenever opportunity presented itself. Just look at the 1999 Atlantique shootdown incident. I remember the counter-argument was that such and such would have been act of war. lol, as if the IAF crossing the international border to strike wasn't an act of war?
Even now, you'll hear analysts on television saying that Pakistan should highlight Kashmir and current stuff for international community to see. lol. I'm surprised why international pressure means so much to Pakistan when it means nothing to major powers. If international pressure or community meant anything, that india would have held the plebiscite in Kashmir already, Israel wouldn't be bulldozing houses, Russia would have vacated Crimea, etc.
Apparently, it's even war-fighting doctrine for PA, capture land, wait for "international pressure" to force IA to ceasefire. What was the freaking point of Kargil when PAF lacked BVR? To force international pressure on India?Land is a finite resource. Once someone takes it, there is no giving it up. I think these thoughts on "international pressure" needs to be removed from Pakistani military doctrine. There is a need to teach cadets that they need to fight to win wars, that there is no runner up in love & war, don't give a crap about international community. If there isn't a paradigm shift in the thinking at GHQ in how wars should be fought & won, blunders like Kargil or Fall of Dhaka will continue to be repeated.
If it wasn’t for Nawaz Sharif, we probably would've had a completely different outcome. Our Pakistani soldiers are the real mujahideen and they had Indians from the throat during kargil. I started hating Nawaz sharif since, he’s a traitor. He should be hanged for acting against nations interests.I don't know about the capability of PAF and IAF of that time, but the reason you stated was clearly not behind not responding of PAF.
The reason was Pakistan's official stand in international community, that it is not involved in the Kargil, and fighting militia is a mix of muzahidin and local rebels.
That's why it could not cross LOC by land, sea or air to help these so called Mujahidins.
Latter they accepted that their regular were involved and destroyed there narrative for which earlier they could not cross LOC to help those regulars.
Thus they had to digest both; 100 onions and 100 ..... too.
An utter nonsensical strategy that was in my opinion; not as an Indian but a neutral third party.
A sane leader either would have crossed the LOC to help its troops or not accepted involvement of regulars at all. The Indians were properly burying the bodies in the place of action. Ten, 50, 100, or 500 years later, if Pakistanis would have won that place, they would have declared that place a national monument, and start yearly pilgrimage to honour their martyrs.
Same was the case with me. Before Kargil our whole family supported Nawaz and PMLN after that i started hating the bastard for this treachery and cowardice. Musharraf should had him hanged in plane hijacking case but he turned out to be a even bigger loser by allowing this snake to leave only to return years latter in the name of NRO and those 10 black years of both PPP and PMLN rule in Pakistan which has literally brought Pakistan to its knees.If it wasn’t for Nawaz Sharif, we probably would've had a completely different outcome. Our Pakistani soldiers are the real mujahideen and they had Indians from the throat during kargil. I started hating Nawaz sharif since, he’s a traitor. He should be hanged for acting against nations interests.
Nawaz claims he had no idea of it.If it wasn’t for Nawaz Sharif, we probably would've had a completely different outcome. Our Pakistani soldiers are the real mujahideen and they had Indians from the throat during kargil. I started hating Nawaz sharif since, he’s a traitor. He should be hanged for acting against nations interests.