Pakistani Punjab and Former East punjab

[ghazi52]

After April, 1919 Jallianwala bagh massacre, atrocities towards protestors esp. Sikhs at Kasur Railway station

Another picture of an Indian tied to a ladder at Kasur railway station being flagged

During the Jalianwala Bagh incident at Amrtisar an uprising started from Lahore, Gujranawala and Kasur - A Martial Law was imposed in these cities - These photographs showing Sepoy flogging, the gallows at Kasur

 

[ZenBird]

Haryanvis have developed their own culture and language over time due to association with Rajasthan. A Haryanvi Jat is the same genetic stock as a Pakistani or Indian Punjabi Jatt. Separation between people in the subcontinent is not as clear as a couple of posters on this thread believe or pretend to believe. People in the malwa region of Indian Punjab like Patiala speak Punjabi with some words similar to Haryanvi. As you go to Majha in Amritsar for example, language is identical to Lahore except for the religious overtones that we people like to use (Insha Allah vs Sat Sri Akal).

Now to the real question. Who has more soft power? I'd say that it is the Indian Punjabis partly because of the distinct identity of the Sikhs, Bhangra and most important use of Punjabi as a primary language. We identify as Punjabis first and Sikhs/Hindus second and then Indians outside of India.

Who has more actual power? I'd say Pakistani Punjabis because Pakistan is a Punjabi majority state with a powerful army with Punjabis in several important posts.

Bro I used to get sick of it but now I find it very amusing. Have you noticed that it's usually indians from india that subscribe to such viewpoints. They have usually never been outside their countries and have never seen Pakistanis en-masse in real life. They'll believe any delusional bollywood fantasy that the indian media propagates.

I'm sick of being told that and I'm Indian Punjabi lol don't blame you. You shoot yourself in the foot when you say you have 0% in common with Indians. Every Indian from a Tamil to a Punjabi has some DNA in common with every Pakistani from a Pathan to a Punjabi. However, degree of similarity is very far in a Tamil to identical in a Punjabi (with another Pakistani Punjabi).

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Every Indian from a Tamil to a Punjabi has some DNA in common with every Pakistani from a Pathan to a Punjabi. However, degree of similarity is very far in a Tamil to identical in a Punjabi (with another Pakistani Punjabi).

And every one you mentioned has some DNA in common with rest of humanity - we are all Homo sapiens. Right?

 

[ZenBird]

And every one you mentioned has some DNA in common with rest of humanity - we are all Homo sapiens. Right?

Right but we share some DNA that is unique to the subcontinent.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Right but we share some DNA that is unique to the subcontinent.

And what are you trying to drawing at. This is quite normal.

America, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, over 30 countries of Europe, Australia, New Zealand also share unique DNA.

 

[ZenBird]

And what are you trying to drawing at. This is quite normal.

America, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, over 30 countries of Europe, Australia, New Zealand also share unique DNA.

I'm not drawing at anything, if you remember our conversation from the other thread I agree with you that Punjabis are different enough to be a separate race from the rest of India. I'm saying it's intellectually dishonest to say we have 0% in common with the rest of subcontinent and gives the Akhand Bharat people ammo to use against "us". We should say that we have enough differences to be classified as a separate race.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I'm not drawing at anything, if you remember our conversation from the other thread I agree with you that Punjabis are different enough to be a separate race from the rest of India. I'm saying it's intellectually dishonest to say we have 0% in common with the rest of subcontinent and gives the Akhand Bharat people ammo to use against "us". We should say that we have enough differences to be classified as a separate race.

I think all regions of British India had distinct people - probably more differances then what most Europeans have. Even within Pakistan we have distinct differances let alone all of South Asia.

Just that I don't like this 'we are all the same' because that's sung by those who still can't accept 1947. We are not all the same anymore then all the Europeans are the same. I mean have you ever tried to figure out a Englishman from German, Irish, French? But I can like hell see a Bengali from a Kashmir, a Pashtun from a Tamil from 100 metres range. If we just accepted that we are differant people I think it would help a lot. The problem is made worse by the Islamists because in order for the ummah pipedream to take over they have to erase our differances and make one monlithic entity based around Islam which of course is tripe.

 

[Mamluk]

Right but we share some DNA that is unique to the subcontinent.

Which DNA? Cough it up.

 

[ZenBird]

Which DNA? Cough it up.

Google Harappa Ancestry project, it has breakdowns by different tribes/castes of the subcontinent.

I think all regions of British India had distinct people - probably more differances then what most Europeans have. Even within Pakistan we have distinct differances let alone all of South Asia.

Just that I don't like this 'we are all the same' because that's sung by those who still can't accept 1947. We are not all the same anymore then all the Europeans are the same. I mean have you ever tried to figure out a Englishman from German, Irish, French? But I can like hell see a Bengali from a Kashmir, a Pashtun from a Tamil from 100 metres range. If we just accepted that we are differant people I think it would help a lot. The problem is made worse by the Islamists because in order for the ummah pipedream to take over they have to erase our differances and make one monlithic entity based around Islam which of course is tripe.

Even Europeans can tell the difference between us and a South Indian.

Yep, Islamists on that side, Sikhs and Hindus on this side. For myself, I place my ancestry (Punjabi Jatt) before religion and anything else.

 

[Mamluk]

Google Harappa Ancestry project, it has breakdowns by different tribes/castes of the subcontinent.

I know everything about that. Tell me which specific DNA starts showing in Tamils or Naga people and ends at Pakistan-Iran border!

 

[ZenBird]

I know everything about that. Tell me which specific DNA starts showing in Tamils or Naga people and ends at Pakistan-Iran border!

The South Indian component is extremely high in Tamils and decreases as you go up North. Punjabis in particular have a very low South Indian component. It doesn't disappear at the Iran Pakistan border but averages about 4% in Iranians. As for Nagas, they have a very high NE Asian component similar to Chinese.

Are you trying to get me to say something? Just say it outright.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The South Indian component

I tell you guy's this component is deadly. Even in trace amounts it wrecks the individual. High amounts of course are rampant in South India - less said the better. African's bring something to the genetic table - physical lean bodies but the South Indian has nothing redeaming about it. I have observed Pakistani Christians who display those features and I strongly suspect many are migrants from Deccan during British times. Their souls might be Christian but South India is writ on their faces.

Thanks god for the Radclife Line !


Ps. Are you Sikh?

 

[Mamluk]

The South Indian component is extremely high in Tamils and decreases as you go up North. Punjabis in particular have a very low South Indian component. It doesn't disappear at the Iran Pakistan border but averages about 4% in Iranians. As for Nagas, they have a very high NE Asian component similar to Chinese.

Are you trying to get me to say something? Just say it outright.

You understand the word UNIQUE that you use so liberally? You said there is some UNIQUE DNA common to only Indians and Pakistanis. Now you are going off on tangents.

Just answer me, which DNA is UNIQUE to Pakistanis and Indians only?!

Just letting the world see through your BS!!

African's bring something to the genetic table - physical lean bodies but the South Indian has nothing redeaming about it.

Exactly! At least many African ethnicities have structure!

 

[ZenBird]

Just answer me, which DNA is UNIQUE to Pakistanis and Indians only?!

Just letting the world see through your BS!!

I see, well I said subcontinent not Indians and Pakistanis and I was referring to the South Indian component shown by Hadappa. Even though that component is present in trace amounts outside of the subcontinent, are you doubting that it originated here? I don't know what you have such a chip on your shoulder about.

I tell you guy's this component is deadly. Even in trace amounts it wrecks the individual. High amounts of course are rampant in South India - less said the better. African's bring something to the genetic table - physical lean bodies but the South Indian has nothing redeaming about it. I have observed Pakistani Christians who display those features and I strongly suspect many are migrants from Deccan during British times. Their souls might be Christian but South India is writ on their faces.

Thanks god for the Radclife Line !


Ps. Are you Sikh?

haha yeah there is something magical about South Indian DNA, women above thirty lose all semblance of figure and become a walking piece of rubber wrapped in a sari.

Yeah I'm Jatt Sikh with ancestry from Lahore.

 

[MadDog]

I think all regions of British India had distinct people - probably more differances then what most Europeans have. Even within Pakistan we have distinct differances let alone all of South Asia.

Just that I don't like this 'we are all the same' because that's sung by those who still can't accept 1947. We are not all the same anymore then all the Europeans are the same. I mean have you ever tried to figure out a Englishman from German, Irish, French? But I can like hell see a Bengali from a Kashmir, a Pashtun from a Tamil from 100 metres range. If we just accepted that we are differant people I think it would help a lot. The problem is made worse by the Islamists because in order for the ummah pipedream to take over they have to erase our differances and make one monlithic entity based around Islam which of course is tripe.

Exactly Indian as an ethnicity or nation doesn't exist. India is a geographic term comprising of independent ethnic groups.