Pakistani Muslims are Naive

[Indus Pakistan]

Look this is an Islamic state if you don't like Islam you should not live here

Tell me just one thing please.

• If this is a Islamic state. Is it for Muslims. Yes/No.
• If it is for Islam/Muslims why does it not accept Muslims as citizens?

 

[Nasr]

Growing up I heard that all Muslims are "brothers" and ummah I seen mostly Pakistanis hark on it sure once in a while I would hear a Afghan, Turk,Arab or any non Pakistani Muslim.Turks,Arabs, and Persians pratically hate each other you see it everyday here and in their politics before we blame the Yanks, or west yes they are guilty but we gotta understand one thing they have differences in mindset,culture and way of how their countries project power I am not saying Muslims are not brothers or ummah does not exist but we have to be more realistic in that

They're more ignorant, than being naive. Like a sniper rifle that is not calibrated. They fail to understand that Islam is first and last in the life of a Muslim. Furthermore, they fail to recognize that by striving to become Muslim, through the Holy Quran and Sunnah, is the only way to achieve victory over the enemy. The worst among them are two opposing idiot mind-set, the liberal-jackasses and the jahil-mullahs. The two breed ignorance on a phenomenal scale.

 

[Kaleem.61]

Tell me just one thing please.

• If this is a Islamic state. Is it for Muslims. Yes/No.
• If it is for Islam/Muslims why does it not accept Muslims as citizens?

This land is for Islam. That is another matter if you are from other religion. But my point is that you are in an Islamic state and if you don't like it go away.

We even accept Non muslims as our citizens so the Muslims are.

What u wanna say about???? Are you talking about that group (1970s)???

 

[Kaleem.61]

Sir can you plz answer first line...? ISLAM/LOGIC @ps3linux Please!

Wow already intimidated by you exalted presence and your kindness of heart in granting an audience to this commoner, your grand sir

When you will talk about (against) Islam you will face the same tone.

Who are you again, oh a nobody, talk to me when you have proved your worth on the board, when you have become something in life have a few articles published in international reputed journals, by the looks of your start I think by the time I get back to Pakistan you would've proved yourself worth of earning few negatives and probably a ban too.

I am nothing more than a big zero. Even if i am then why i need to express it to you that who's me??
Thank you for telling me that worth means writing some papers and having some more points on the forum. Rest about ban let's see what moderation is going to do.

Shooo go be part of the Nazim's group of morality squad go destroy public universities and intimidate poor student. Read my signature again, last sentence particularly if you can understand English otherwise google translate can help you.

So raising voice against liberals is something like terrorism....? Salute sir!!! You GOT THE point yes i am and i request you not to explode the secrete.


I often use google translator dictionary etc. I never felt any shame just because of not understanding some english words.

Underestimating is self destruction. Knowing english is knowing a language and it is not any scale of intelligence. Read first line again and i request you to answer it first.

 

[Old School]

Pakistan was established in 1947 on the premise that it would become a homeland for the Muslims regardless of racial or ethnic backgrounds. Denying this founding philosophy will be suicidal even though several dubious foreign sponsored secular quarters are trying to revise the founding principles of this Muslim land.

 

[k s ahmed]

wow --

ummah was created by Nabi (SAW).. not the EU

Us muslims are divided badly into nations by whoever. And we have really forgotten the basics. Hence we hate each other from different countries. For example, PAkistanis really dont know how to react when they see indian musliums.. Indian is enemy but muslim isnt -- their brains get short circuited and they go back to their community and hide there.

But , wise muslims still know ummah exists and they treat muslims from other countries like brothers. Current muslim Leaders are just muppets (and corrupt) and so as people around them. We dont take follow their example

Bottom line - we should still try to think Global , even though its hard and our hearts are torn into pieces by how others think. Nothing good comes easy.

I used to be an Ummah guy until like 5 years ago.
I was a bleeding heart supporter of Afghans as our brothers.
Then I started reading and watching Afghani youtube videos.....
Those guys have sided with India almost every time and have hated Pakistan since the beginning.

There is no Ummah there, they are selfish people who turned their own country into a s**thole and want to do the same to Pakistan.

dont change your beleifs just because some stupid guys put stuff on there. They are in minority but they are just being highlighted..

sorry, i got distracted - yes we are naive because we dont have much international exposure. Only v few of us have.
We are stubborn too. We dont try to learn from those who have exposure ( many dont want to mentor either)
Our attitude in this world is not right and needs sto be aligned. It seems that all we think is death and it puts halt on our progressive thinking. We dont have much details about our heroes apart from their devotion to islam.
We need to know how they lived thier daily lives and how they achieved the great golden age of muslims.
too many things missing.. but short answer , we are naive

 

[Indos]

I used to be an Ummah guy until like 5 years ago.
I was a bleeding heart supporter of Afghans as our brothers.
Then I started reading and watching Afghani youtube videos.....
Those guys have sided with India almost every time and have hated Pakistan since the beginning.

There is no Ummah there, they are selfish people who turned their own country into a s**thole and want to do the same to Pakistan.

The brotherhood only for the real believer, not with munafik. There are always munafik people in every Muslim nation.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

wow --

ummah was created by Nabi (SAW).. not the EU

Us muslims are divided badly into nations by whoever. And we have really forgotten the basics. Hence we hate each other from different countries. For example, PAkistanis really dont know how to react when they see indian musliums.. Indian is enemy but muslim isnt -- their brains get short circuited and they go back to their community and hide there.

But , wise muslims still know ummah exists and they treat muslims from other countries like brothers. Current muslim Leaders are just muppets (and corrupt) and so as people around them. We dont take follow their example

Bottom line - we should still try to think Global , even though its hard and our hearts are torn into pieces by how others think. Nothing good comes easy.

The brotherhood only for the real believer, not with munafik. There are always munafik people in every Muslim nation.

Brother Malcolm X, aka El-Hajj Malik al-Shahbaz, already resolved this issue in laymen terms. Only a true Muslim is capable of understanding this concept, the rest are just looking for contradictions in Islam or with Muslims.