what i am going to say after it 50% of members wouls attack me so ist i look a safe side for me
ok PAF doesnt need women if trueely speeking , what ALLAH said is correct coz ALLAH is creator of all creatures and he knows better then us which is better for what puprpose and In ISlam women are not for flying or for any hard tasks. even there expenditures are responsibilities of male spouses. think if u believe in ISlam that women are not assigned for outside work (i have no taliban views) how u through responsibility of defence on them , though during WARS they did some role but they were not assingned for any warrior ttype role. i know most of u are muslims at dis forum(sorry to non muslim bros) u ppl know ha during BADAR WAR muslims were 313 so few but he didnt brought women into WAR. just get a guide from ur ISLAM i hink males in pak are impotent to give such roles to womens2ndly sorry to say but its reallity culure inside PAF is not good i have so many relatives in PAF and i knew all dis from them there are drinkers present there . we as pakistani needs o keep it away such culture . thats fact and moderatorz plz plz permit us to say independently
A woman is not for outside work?
You really need to study the Muslim history and the role played by women.
Whereas certainly women are not warriors by nature and by their additional vulnerabilities in a battlefield...there are many instances where women fought side by side with men in the earliest history of Islam...the idea of a meek woman maybe true in sub continent but there was no such thing in the early Islamic culture and armies...
In most of the armies of early Islamic era the camp was also composed of womenfolk who were active participants as the caretakers of the injured and were ready and willing to defend themselves if attacked...
In the battle of Yarmuk a Muslim division was severely outnumbered and cutoff from by the huge roman army and after making a lot of sacrifices retreated back into the camp where the Muslim women came forward and urged their men to at least fight by their side...this made the men full of shame and they went back into line and fought like lions and repulsed the attack...
Muslim women were much more emancipated back then...in Yarmuk Hazrat Zubair RA was one of the most renowned and famous companions of the Prophet and he used to make his rounds of the Army along with his wife (Asma daughter of Abu Bakar) to motivate the soldiers and lift their spirits in face of overwhelming odds.
The role of a woman is not that restricted in Islam as you choose to see...
Regarding the drinkers in PAF...well you cannot condemn a force because some people drink there...certainly in your personal life someone might be doing things forbidden in Islam but we do not condemn our associates so readily...
You know that Hazrat Umar RA was the strictest caliph and in his time the famous Wahshi (the one who martyred Hazrat Hamza RA) was always found drunk and after punishing him few times...even Umar RA gave up...whilst drinking is not something permissible for the Muslims...you cannot kill someone who drinks...all you can do is hope he overcomes his addiction and help him if you are close to him...the drinking culture has gone down by quiet a huge margin so on that account there has been improvement and not decay in the armed forces of Pakistan.
Now about Pakistani men going impotent...well that is really a very negative remark and if you want to be taken seriously...you have to maintain certain respect and maturity in your comments...once you learn this i am sure you will at least find the forum to be a friendly and fairly tolerant place...these problems i see with many young folk who are passionate about Islamic values...
1) they do not study Islamic history closely and instead choose to interpret the entire Islamic culture and mindset by one or two examples...better to explore more and then come up with a broader perspective.
2) they project their views by using extremely negative remarks and taunts instead of trying to be civil...maybe you are right and maybe you are wrong...still if you are civil enough...the audience will not get offended personally...and you will have a better chance to influence the debate.
On a side note, I personally assure you that i am a Pakistani man and I have a beautiful baby daughter...so do not worry...we are still potent enough...