Pakistan: You Have One Job

[Mutakalim]

Says a slave, who converted out of fear?

Jo Dar gaye, vo kat gaye.
Jo nidar the, vo aaj bhi hindu hai.

My ancestors are muslims from the beginning and we are the invaders so keep your crap to yourself.

 

[N/A]

This argument has been shown to be false, time and again. The military's "say" in matters that are not its legal duty is precisely what leads to the disaster in the first place.

The military role is to protect Pakistan from internal and external threat. Second to the TTP, Pakistani politicians are a great danger to Pakistan future. By having a say, the army is merely protecting Pakistan internally from these corrupt politicians

 

[Post Colonnial]

That idiot Nawaz Sharif went to the inauguration of butcher of Gujarat.

When Modi was cleared of all charges (repeatedly) it was Congress and NOT BJP that was in power. If you guys still continue to call him a butcher it simply shows your prejudice.There isn't any evidence that you can come with that his opponents haven't brought up in the courts and all of them were found either concocted or unconnected,

It will be a shame if Pakistan does not take this opportunity of dealing with a decisive leader in India to build useful bridges, solve serious regional problems and realize full potential mutually.

Why this pettiness

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

..... dealing with a decisive leader in India .......

Yes he was very decisive in 2002 Gujarat pograms when at least 2500 Muslims were killed.

 

[Post Colonnial]

Yes he was very decisive in 2002 Gujarat pograms when at least 2500 Muslims were killed.

come on AK21...by your selective cut/paste/quote you have admitted that you know Modi was cleared by all courts as well as a Special Investigation Team that the Congress government established. Does it make any sense for you to continue accusing him? Not very quranic

 

[Hiptullha]

Nonsense!!
Indian Muslims are Indians first.

Your fellow compatriots don't feel the same way though.

why is that strange? Carrot and sticks

Maybe you didn't read the article properly. The general was giving an overview of the ground situation to the policymakers. He's removed from the whole "carrots and sticks" process.

 

[Levina]

Your fellow compatriots don't feel the same way though.

Doesn't matter to me.

 

[Post Colonnial]

Your fellow compatriots don't feel the same way though.


Maybe you didn't read the article properly. The general was giving an overview of the ground situation to the policymakers. He's removed from the whole "carrots and sticks" process.

The carrot is the general saying something good. The stick is the other report about 'do more if you want the 300M'.

 

[Hiptullha]

The carrot is the general saying something good. The stick is the other report about 'do more if you want the 300M'.

So you're saying this briefing to the Pentagon (i.e. something not for Pakistani consumption) by an on-ground general (i.e. not a fumbling bureaucracy) was nothing more than a dangling carrot for Pakistan. It can be discounted because the US is just playing a game of mirrors and smoke with Pakistan and you can't trust what they say. Better to listen to that intelligent Indian on the web, eh?

Doesn't matter to me.

My response was to one of your compatriots. I just quoted the statistics you posted.

 

[Post Colonnial]

So you're saying this briefing to the Pentagon (i.e. something not for Pakistani consumption) by an on-ground general (i.e. not a fumbling bureaucracy) was nothing more than a dangling carrot for Pakistan. It can be discounted because the US is just playing a game of shadows and mirrors with Pakistan and you can't trust what they say. Better to listen to that intelligent Indian on the web, eh?



My response was to one of your compatriots. I just quoted the statistics you posted.

You make way too many assumptions and mostly wrong.

* pentagon briefing are public and are many a times used as much for effect. why do you think they are public? It makes conversation a bit easier when the Pakistani diplo or general arrives
* there are as many fumbling 'on-ground' generals as there are bureaucrats. You should learn not to generalize and understand the nuances and differences
* For a while now, US has not expected mutual trust or for that matter mutual anything vizaviz Pakistan. That is why things are made quite explicit.

You seem to WANT to believe that Pakistan is doing good on some front when US says they are but dismiss the same US's message when they tell you you are messed up! Isn't that the definition of living in a state of denial?

 

[Viper0011.]

It’s Pakistan’s job to restore India’s, and the world’s, confidence in its intentions, and that will not happen with continued terrorist attacks across the border in India, and with blustery rhetoric about using nuclear weapons.

Tackling terror, all terror, should be job number one for Islamabad.
Pakistan: You Have One Job

While I agree that the Pakistani government has a way to go and finish terrorism inside its society, the bold comment above is a representation of lobby-paid journalism. Donald Trump successfully calls these types of journalist "Anchor Babies", who ONLY cry on one topic with bias towards everything else.

When she writes "ALL Terror"......why doesn't that include the Murder of minorities inside India? Which has been going on for decades? Why doesn't the author include the abuse and forceful conversion of minorities (Christianity and Muslims) to Hinduism? And if they don't convert......they are killed? So the author herself has "favorite terrorists" in India that she doesn't want to mention a dime about....BUT she wants to point fingers to ONLY on side????

I agree that Pakistan needs to finish up this mess of terrorism, but I also want "ALL" terror to be finished too and that means, India, has JUST as much of responsibility of eliminating Hindu terrorism from within its borders, from Kashmir, from Baluchistan and from other parts of the world, like Sri Lanka, etc.

 

[Hiptullha]

* pentagon briefing are public and are many a times used as much for effect. why do you think they are public? It makes conversation a bit easier when the Pakistani diplo or general arrives

Which means we can dismiss this thing as a sham? A dangling carrot? Give me a break.

* there are as many fumbling 'on-ground' generals as there are bureaucrats. You should learn not to generalize and understand the nuances and differences

The bureaucracy has too many inner struggles and tussles to function properly. Especially when it comes to hot topics like Afghanistan.

Isn't that the definition of living in a state of denial?

That's rich. According to you, Pakistan's "not delivering" despite clearing away most of FATA from militants and begun tackling with local sectarian terrorist outfits. The US report is saying we haven't done enough. Not that we've "messed up". If you think Pakistan is still stuck in this time warp where terrorists will walk freely, then you're in denial.

 

[Viper0011.]

A man with a $10 million U.S. terrorism bounty on his head could hold a huge rally in the center of Lahore, shows how difficult it is going to be for Pakistan to regain others confidence.

They should jail him and keep him there if the proofs are legal and the international courts agree, I am with you 100%. Now that you want one terrorist inside the jail, which is a fair ask as a human being ......how about Modi??? He's going around and doing gathering hundreds of thousands of people too?????

As a human asking for justice, you should also ask him to be sent to jail too......so I agree with you 100% on your posts. But, A BIGGER question I now have is, that how come, another man has become the PRIME MINISTER of INDIA with say similar background (actually worst, Modi is directly and indirectly responsible for 20000 (or more) dead innocent Indian civilians from Indian minorities), is that not terrorism where thousands of people got killed and it still happen in India, all the time??? So, what do you do with Mr. Modi ????

I'd love to hear some Indian member's response who probably have a heart too. So far, when I bring this up, they go silent or ignore the topic. Let's see if Indian members call ALL terrorism, REALLY ALL TERRORISM and not have favorites like if you do terrorism and you are a Hindu, no one will call you a terrorist. If you are a Muslim or Pakistani, let's all of us call you that.

 

[VCheng]

The military role is to protect Pakistan from internal and external threat.

That is a patently false claim, since there is no such legal duty for internal threats, as defined by the Constitution, which clearly mentions the defense of geographical borders as the military's duty from external threats. This "internal" or "ideological" border is a devious fabrication used to illegally meddle in other affairs that are not the military's duty, to the great detriment of the nation.

 

[Indus Falcon]

One thing you forgot to add was, Modi is a confessed Mukti Bahini terrorist too. God knows how many innocent Bengali, Behari and West Pakistani men he killed and how many women he raped.

Slight correction: "men he raped."