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But the original population of the entire subcontinent was either Hindu, Jain, Buddhist or tribal till Muslim invaders came along. Even discounting the point that people from Iran and Central Asia themselves were converts, very few came and settled in the subcontinent proper. The 500+ million Muslims of India are descendants of basically four types of people:

1. Forced conversions at the pain of death.
2. Voluntary conversions of Hindu dalits to escape the oppression of the caste system.
3. Conversion under gradual duress to escape the tyranny of jizya and to enjoy better status in society.
4. Forced/voluntary conversion of tribals who were not under any organized religion earlier.

Yes, you are right to the extent that not all the conversion was forced, but I did not say that.

Don't you if you understand my English. I'm a Pashtun, we're from invaders ourselves. So we came here already Muslim and guess what? we weren't Hindu before heartily embracing Islam.
 
Indian Logic: lets make an anti-Pakistani movie and lets hope its a block buster in Pakistan. Have some common logic, do you expect us to proudly display an anti-Pakistan film. Unlike Indians, when our movies get banned, we don't create a huge drama
Anti PAK , you even ban movie on kashmir .... " SKR movie " which not even mentioned a word like pakistan or terror etc.
 
The 500+ million Muslims of India are descendants of basically four types of people:

1. Forced conversions at the pain of death.
2. Voluntary conversions of Hindu dalits to escape the oppression of the caste system.
3. Conversion under gradual duress to escape the tyranny of jizya and to enjoy better status in society.
4. Forced/voluntary conversion of tribals who were not under any organized religion earlier.
I know where you are coming from. That Indian people couldnt have voluntarily converted to a religion that was spiritually/philosophically inferior to Hinduism/Buddhism. But the point to be noted is that 800 years ago Islam was very different from what it is today. The development of thought through islamic golden age, the spirituality of sufi movement, the attainment of classical education by muslims of that time and further development of their philosophy, all led to immense enrichment of islam. And when it came here many high caste hindus actually found it spiritually/philosophically superior and converted voluntarily to a superior spiritual system as they saw it. Only today after fundamentalist movements islam has reverted back to its primitive form (especially under saudi monarchy, taliban, isis etc), abandoning centuries of development and appears a poor religion. My own cousin, who is religiously minded unlike me, is studying hinduism these days and is thinking about converting back to the religion of his ancestors.
 
A man with a $10 million U.S. terrorism bounty on his head could hold a huge rally in the center of Lahore, shows how difficult it is going to be for Pakistan to regain others confidence.
Holy cow, you are still alive!! lolzzzz
 
The earliest known invader from your tribe would be Malik Habib Niazi who was part of Amir Timur forces which invaded India in 1398 AD.

But I think we came later than that
 
What do you mean Oscar admitted that? What sort of low level sick mentality do you Indians like you posses anyway?
Do you realize that neither me, or ANY of these people are responsible for the acts that our governments do? Do you think that any of these people going about their lives are equally responsible to be hanged over what Kasab did? or people like Hafiz Saeed?
Their defence of their country notwithstanding these people may be misled, may be emotional; but at no point did they pull the trigger or carry out anything that deserves them such contempt that like I see here from across the border that today I can AFFIRMATIVELY say bears vile hatred that is not even deserving of the title of animals since they too have limits.

Admit? Only the most hypocritical and inhumane of mindsets can think that a young child or a normal student going about their business would have influenced the Taliban or somehow himself responsible for being brainwashed?

My recognition of the faults in my nation is an excuse for pathetic individuals like you to start masturbating yourselves?

Your ungrateful pieces of filth think that just because your country managed to retain a sense of democracy, that it retained some guiding leadership that kept its elite at bay from stepping over its people, you have a right to consider us lower? Less decent than the nation whose news either consists of rape or caste wars?

Maybe we should not change, maybe we should think of you people as nothing more than a nation whose national past time seems to revolve around groping their women's privates in public.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe my countrymen are right about your lot?
Is the entire Indian population filled with vindictive bloodthirsty psychopaths who will rape, kill and maim Pakistanis under this hate? I am now inclined to believe so.

And I dont do this, but I will now. See now this example right there. There is no limit to which our agreeing, or talks will satisfy this hatred, this bloodlust. These people are not interested in apologies, they are not interested in peace or negotiations.. they want you dead Pakistan, your women raped, your children burnt and your lives destroyed.They will ONLY accept you as slaves and nothing else.

That is the ONLY satisfaction that will satisfy them. All this talk of them being wrong, victims of terrorism is just an excuse to keep their justifications of hate alive against the world conciousness. These are NOT people you want as friends, nor people you have any choice but nuclear holocaust with. They wont stop until they either make you their slaves, or make war where it burns the skins of their own families.

I wonder what difference is there between this mentality, and what drove Kasab.

NOTHING.

@Zarvan @Areesh @DESERT FIGHTER @IceCold @Pomegranate
Tag anybody(and everybody) else you like, because these people and their view of us now needs to be highlighted and any illusions of them thinking of EVER resolving issues regardless of how low we stoop for them are delusional on our part.

Dude, I do not think you understood my post or the intent of it. I am not super strong in English and so could have used a wrong word. I did not mean you admitted doing it. I meant you or someone like you, merely quoting a past interaction.

Please care to point out things that you are attributing to me where I have written those. Like where I have said you are lower? I could not understand anything what you wrote because that was nothing to do with my post. Think about it this way, how will you feel if you find out that someone who has killed so many civilians is living life of royalty in India. There is countless examples of Pakistan shielding India's most wanted criminals. There is a guy called Abu Jindal who was deported to India from Saudi or UAE. He had Pakistani passport and Pakistan was telling Saudi he is our citizen. Do you know the same guy is in India and nobody is saying he is Pakistani. Does this not clearly prove Pakistan shielding criminals and terrorist.

I do not remember exactly who acknowledge that they are. About the rest of your post, I do not understand why you have that sentiments. I have only seems Pakistani's being sent to India on terrorist mission. I could have understood J&K to some extent, but Punjab, Mumbai, Delhi.

Whatever you are talking makes no sense to me. We are OK with LOC as border that means in-spite of having a different view we are willing to pass GB for peace, it is Pakistan who wants J&K and is threatening violence. It is Pakistan who has refused to talk on terror, run away from talk when NSA level talk could have never discussed Kashmir.
 
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